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Now that OBAMACARE is the law of the land. . . . . . . . will you or will you not accept the CHIP?

Drue-AFCL 2012/06/30 19:33:32
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  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/07/01 13:04:36
    I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE CHIP
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +8
    Impossible to accept something that does not exist. The more the RWNJ machine opens their mouth, the more independent voters swing to Obama.

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  • Jdogg 2012/06/30 20:53:34
    I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE CHIP
    Jdogg
  • Donald ... Jdogg 2012/06/30 21:50:02
    Donald Eric Kesler
    +1
    There is no chip. Furthermore, there is no mention of microchips in the Revelation of John.

    http://www.snopes.com/politic...
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/06/30 22:40:49
    DeeB
    I believe they say Mark of the devil! And of course they have chips, they are selling them to parents right now to put into their kids so they can't lose them and before that it was pets. What would you guess comes next?!
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/06/30 22:57:18
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I am sorry, but you are completely and totally wrong. You are thinking about the mark of the second beast that came out of the earth.

    The pertinent passages clearly says that all people will receive a mark on either their hand or on their forehead. It contains absolutely nothing about microchips. Furthermore, it says nothing about objects being placed beneath the skin.

    Also, it says that this mark will be upon all people. Not just the people in the United States of America. As a matter of fact, the United States of America is never mentioned in any of the books of the Bible.


    Revelation 13

    New International Version (NIV)

    The Beast out of the Earth

    11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast wa...
    I am sorry, but you are completely and totally wrong. You are thinking about the mark of the second beast that came out of the earth.

    The pertinent passages clearly says that all people will receive a mark on either their hand or on their forehead. It contains absolutely nothing about microchips. Furthermore, it says nothing about objects being placed beneath the skin.

    Also, it says that this mark will be upon all people. Not just the people in the United States of America. As a matter of fact, the United States of America is never mentioned in any of the books of the Bible.


    Revelation 13

    New International Version (NIV)

    The Beast out of the Earth

    11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.
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  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/01 04:26:15
    DeeB
    +1
    Whatever, I really don't care about the mark. My quam with you is that the chips are already in existence.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/02 15:20:06
    Donald Eric Kesler
    You do not actually believe the RFID chip is the mark of the beast. You recognize that there is no legislation requiring people to have an RFID chip implanted in their bodies. Why then do you have an issue with the chips existence?

    I feel the same way about landmines. I consider it immoral to create a weapon that it is designed to maim and kill indiscriminately. But I digress.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/02 15:25:25
    DeeB
    Knowing all that you know about all the power that those freaks have STOLEN, do you really doubt that they would do their best to mandate them? Please, they are using Obamacare to have access to all of your personal health records and to your bank acct. Just wait and see.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/02 15:42:19
    Donald Eric Kesler
    The point is that they have not mandated them. Furthermore, there are no tangible plans to make RFID chips mandatory.

    Sweden and other nations employ healthcare models that are very similar to the one our nation has adopted. They have managed to do so without suffering a total loss of civil liberties.

    The Bush era Patriot Act greatly expanded the powers of the intelligence community. There is no need to create new legislation to gain access to our personal health records or our bank account.

    The sun is going to shine tomorrow. Just you wait and see.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/02 21:44:05
    DeeB
    Ya you just keep those rose colored glasses on! Or maybe you should take them off and join us in reality. Time to wake up and pay attention.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/02 22:19:45
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Rose colored glasses on; rose colored glasses off. Either way there is still no empirical data to support your assertion that the state is planning to mandate the use of an RFID microchip.

    As Christopher Hitchens once wisely observed, “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

    You may consider your assertion dismissed.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/02 22:38:53
    DeeB
    Well anyone with a functional brain can figure out their next move if they are paying close attention. You are dismissed.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/02 22:43:23
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I am dismissed? I don't think the internet quite works like that.

    Again, Do you have any data to support your assertion that the RFID microchip is going to be made mandatory? Can you provide evidence to support your claim that this is going to be "their" next move?
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/07 19:36:02
    DeeB
    Ya, right! Like they are going to tell us, like they do everything else. Did you know they were going to pass the NDAA that gives them permission to kill any of us at will? No, because they did it when we were sleeping, duh! Wake up. How do you know that they won't?
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/07 20:31:05
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Who is they? Even if 'they' are capable of anything, that does not mean that they are plotting to make the RFID chip mandatory. After all, there is absolutely no empirical evidence that anyone is plotting to bring this about.

    You are the one making the claim. It is up to you to provide evidence to support you claim. I don't have to explain how I know that 'they' won't.
  • Drue-AFCL Donald ... 2012/07/07 20:35:29
  • Donald ... Drue-AFCL 2012/07/07 21:16:28
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I am not going to waste my time watching a two hour video that is demonstrably wrong in the first minute.
  • Drue-AFCL Donald ... 2012/07/07 21:21:57
    Drue-AFCL
    +1
    It's only and hour and thirty five minutes!
  • Donald ... Drue-AFCL 2012/07/08 00:39:33
    Donald Eric Kesler
    True, but he is full of crap within the first minute.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/07 21:56:25
    DeeB
    +1
    If you are interested in the truth you will, if you don't you are not. This man gave his life to showing the American people just how we are being decieved, he is a hero in his own right. See Freedom to Fascism done by him also, then wake the hell up.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/08 00:40:15
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Then he died a self deluded man.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 00:55:11
    DeeB
    Good for you, you passed the brainwashed zombie test. Stay the hell away from me loser.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/08 13:45:38
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Here is the problem I have with your hero. Within the first minute of the video, he claims that 09/11 was orchestrated by the government in order to force everyone to accept a microchip. Where is the evidence to support any of his rantings?
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 14:14:20
    DeeB
    If you listened to the video he gets the info from the horses mouth, Rockefeller. People like you are afraid of truth, it might ruin your illusion of what you think the world is. Which couldn't be further from the truth. I know, I was you at one time, clueless.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/08 14:16:44
    Donald Eric Kesler
    I am not afraid of the truth. I am just not willing to blindly accept your version of the truth.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 14:22:26
    DeeB
    It is not my version. Tell me how the supposed hijackers knew exactly where to fly the plane where they could lose the radar tracking when the people that work there don't even know. I'll wait for that answer. And if you haven't seen all the evidence which by the way is so overwhelming, you shouldn't even speak on the subject.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/08 14:30:40
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 15:07:18
    DeeB
    I'll give you one clue as to who debunked 9/11 being an inside job. Michael Chertoffs nephew. Then Chertoff went on to make and sell all those machines now found in our airports. You know nothing and I have seen all that crap and that is just what it is. It would take a week for me to show you tons of evidence that proves it was an inside job. Here's one for ya. Why did they shut off the power on the weekend for the whole weekend, just before 9/11? They said it was for construction yet NO permits were pulled.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/09 15:23:41
    Donald Eric Kesler
    This video is anecdotal evidence. It features a witness who claims he heard and explosion within the building prior to the plane hitting. If he was inside the building in order to hear this alleged explosion, then he could not have observed the plane hitting the building. He could not know if this alleged explosion detonated before or after the plane hit the building.

    Regarding the claims of Scott Forbes . . .

    http://911review.com/errors/w...
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/10 12:30:12
    DeeB
    Don't reply to me again, I have zero tolerance for the dumbed down and people who are afraid of the truth. Kepp your rose colored glassed on and live your life of illusion. Good luck to you. Just don't come to my door when you're starving in the streets!
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/09 15:27:57
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Benjamin Chertoff has never even met Michael Chertoff. While they may share the last name, there is no known or recognized family connection. Benjamin Chertoff has repeatedly denied the claim made by conspiracy theorists that the two are related, most notably in the September 11, 2006 issue of U.S. News & World Report, stating "no one in my family has ever met anyone related to Michael Chertoff."
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 14:16:17
    DeeB
    And if you actually think about it and I do mean think, have we not lost all of our rights since that day??? Perfect plan for the New World Order to move right in.
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/09 15:13:20
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Our rights have been diminished since the terrorist attack. That is true. However, this fact does nothing toward proving your claim that some sort of New World Order is taking control of the world. To be certain, our loss of rights would benefit such an organization; however, there is a lack of evidence showing that such an organization even exists.
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/10 12:31:59
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/07 21:53:33
    DeeB
    Then why are some states bringing legislation to stop it? Google it for yourself for more.
    http://www.loweringthebar.net...
  • Donald ... DeeB 2012/07/08 00:37:44
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Because the state legislators are stupid. Laws against the practice of witchcraft is not evidence of witchcraft. Laws protecting big foot from hunters is not evidence of big foot. They are simply evidence of either ignorant or manipulative law makers.
  • Drue-AFCL Donald ... 2012/07/08 00:42:16
    Drue-AFCL
    +1
    WRONG!
  • Donald ... Drue-AFCL 2012/07/08 00:42:58
    Donald Eric Kesler
    Wrong?
  • Drue-AFCL Donald ... 2012/07/08 00:44:02
    Drue-AFCL
    +1
    YEAH. . . .AS IN YOU ARE. . . . . .WRONG!
  • Donald ... Drue-AFCL 2012/07/08 13:51:33
  • DeeB Donald ... 2012/07/08 00:56:52
    DeeB
    You are not only wrong you are a sick pup in denial, my order to stay away still stands and if you contact me again I will block.

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