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Now that Gary Johnson has secured the Libertarian nod for President, is the Libertarian Party a THREAT??!!

BlueRepublican 2012/05/12 15:53:18
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No, the 2-party system is safe
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Congratulations to former Republican New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson in securing the Libertarian Party's nomination for President.

Some of you may remember Gary Johnson from his participation in the Republican Primary Presidential debate( shovel-ready-jobs). He has an excellent record as governor and is a more mainstream and moderate choice as the Libertarian representative in the General Election.

But you say, "C'mon Blue, you know the two-party system will not be defeated."
I beg to differ. I believe that both parties have moved too far away from their original center positions. The far-left and far-right in power do not accurately represent the majority of their constituency. Most Americans would probably find themselves somewhere in the middle of the left and right.

Former 1988 Libertarian Candidate and current Republican Presidential candidate Dr. Ron Paul's message is clearly resonating with the grassroots. His ceiling of support continues to grow. While many agree with his positions, others question his "mass appeal" and "radical" foreign policy.That is where Gary Johnson comes in.

Libertarian ideology is one of limited govt and maximum personal liberty. As the movement towards more personal liberty (gay marriage, marijuana legalization, etc...) continues, and the calls for fiscal responsibility (free-market, no bail-outs, balanced budget, cut spending, etc...) persist, the LP becomes more of a threat to the 2-party establishment.

The LP is the fastest growing party and has hundreds of elected officials all over 50 states. Ron Paul admitted he will retire after this year. If Gary Johnson carries the torch and picks up an additional 15-20% of national support, he could make history, shattering the two-party duopoly.

"Is the Libertarian Party a THREAT??!!"
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  • Sherlock Dog BL - a Gazillion 2012/05/16 20:25:51
  • gfreeman BN-0 2012/05/15 19:45:51 (edited)
    None of the above
    gfreeman BN-0
    +1
    Not really. He's going to be on the ballot, however I doubt he has an office in every state like Romney and Obama do.
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2012/05/15 17:42:26
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +1
    I doubt that it will have much of an impact.
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/05/15 13:16:19
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    +2
    A winner take all system will always be dominated by two parties. This is simple game theory, not conspiracy theory.
  • RicardoCabeza 2012/05/15 01:03:36
    None of the above
    RicardoCabeza
    A threat?, WTF, that is a threat and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum are their poster boys.
  • Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/05/14 02:31:24
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    He'll be a threat to the GOP by drawing away some votes, but the country is not ready to embrace a 3rd party, no matter how much sense their platform may make.

    With Ron Paul and Gary Johnson in the mix, the GOP is in serious trouble.
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/05/14 01:03:12
  • gbudavid 2012/05/13 21:55:23
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    gbudavid
    +1
    Who is Gary Johnson???
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/05/13 18:06:39
  • T. James H 2012/05/13 17:07:09
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/13 12:18:35
    None of the above
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Notice that the Democrats don't have a third party to split their vote? Until people realize that there is only a left and right in this country, as the liberals clearly do, we will regress further into oblivion.
  • Ken 2012/05/13 03:59:58
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    Ken
    Unfortunately for the American people.
  • DoxieDad 2012/05/13 03:09:58
    None of the above
    DoxieDad
    +1
    At this point so little is known about Johnson that to make any impact he will have to spend and awful lot of time getting in front of the electorate. Only die hard Libertarians and disaffected Republicans will vote for the Libertarian ticket.
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/05/13 03:02:39
    None of the above
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    Libertarians and or any third party is not a threat to anyone.....they are simply voicing an opinion and doing so is not a threat....it's liberty....as for Gary Johnson....don't know him, never heard of him....chances of him affecting the vote is pretty minimal
  • Striker 2012/05/13 02:56:48
    None of the above
    Striker
    +1
    Consider this very likely scenario? We must wait until the RINO's decide in August. They may well throw Paul under the bus.

    Then Paul goes back to having the courage of convictions and joins the Libertarians. Doing that, he will bring millions of his followers with him. Now you truly will have a 3-party race, and if Johnson's campaign is vigorous and well run, you may see the RINO party running #3, which in my view is exactly what they deserve.

    There may then at last be a TON of voters demanding runoff elections. It may well become the end of the Dem-Rep monopoly. What could be better than that?
  • BlueRep... Striker 2012/05/13 20:25:13
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    Striker you did it again!! Thanks, buddy :-)
  • Striker BlueRep... 2012/05/13 22:21:58
    Striker
    I'm please to note that you "get it"!
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/05/13 01:59:09
    None of the above
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    +1
    two party, three party, four parties and more...
    There are plenty of people who still are running active campaigns.
    If Americans don't like where we are or where we are going to,
    We still have the ultimate power at the polls.
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  • William 2012/05/13 01:51:30
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    William
    +1
    Thanks to national campaigns that have essentially made the third party option an exercise in futility. We now only have a "choice" between two parties that are so much alike it's hard to decide which would be worse. One of the candidates supports national health care, the NDAA as it was passed, The USA PATRIOT, giving bailouts to the same group of people that have been sucking down federal subsidies at the expense of the middle and bottom classes and is itching for yet another Middle-East war to get us into, Actually, that applies to both "anointed" main party candidates.

    Gary Johnson would get us out of those ridiculous wars and propose trimming government back to levels that are affordable.
  • AM 2012/05/12 23:16:47
  • Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/05/12 22:40:16
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    LOL
  • Alien Ramone 2012/05/12 22:03:18
    None of the above
    Alien Ramone
    +1
    My guess is that he will get more votes than any other Libertarian Candidate has gotten, but he won't be a threat to win unless something significant happens to wake up enough people to what is going on with the system of control that is being created over them through influence on many in the leadership of both major parties.
  • Arizona1950 2012/05/12 21:57:36 (edited)
    None of the above
    Arizona1950
    +3
    they will be a threat only if Paul is denied the nomination through fraud. Heck they will be a threat even if its not done by fraud. I do think they will be the Party of choice should Paul back them.
  • ღ♥ღ ℒea ღ♥ღ 2012/05/12 21:16:56
    None of the above
    ღ♥ღ ℒea ღ♥ღ
    +2
    all I know is I want Obama gone and if there's a third party siphoning votes in Obama's favor, I'm not for it.
  • VICTORIA 2012/05/12 20:48:04
    No, the 2-party system is safe
    VICTORIA
    +3
    I just watched Gary Johnson on C-Span Washington Journal, and then the Libertarian conference. Johnson was reasonable and likable enough- but that conference- nothing more than immigrant racist bashing and fearmongering- it was some nutty nutty stuff-
    even the libertarians who were tweeting the whole time were NOT impressed.

    So if you like far rightwing extremists, and disaffected republicans distancing themselves from the GOP so they don't have to take responsibility for the mess Bush left us in-then the new libertarians are for you.

    If you truly believe in liberty, and less authoritarianism- stay far away from these guys-
  • Don 2012/05/12 19:40:20
    None of the above
    Don
    +3
    Yes - a threat to get get Empty Suit reelected.
    Ross Perot is why we got Slick Willy.
  • Arizona... Don 2012/05/12 22:00:42
    Arizona1950
    +4
    Clinton won because nobody wanted the nutcase Gore ... stop blaming Ross Perot for the obvious.
  • ScottyG - Faqueue 2012/05/12 19:27:49
    None of the above
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +3
    For now, the goal is to defeat Obie. A 3rd party will split the vote on the conservative side and insure an Obie win.

    Is this really what we want?
  • Arizona... ScottyG... 2012/05/12 22:02:28
    Arizona1950
    +3
    What you don't think Romney has enough followers to overcome? I mean isn't he the candidate of choice to beat Obama because they are sooooo different in policy and direction. I mean afterall isn't it all about anyone but Obama?
  • ScottyG... Arizona... 2012/05/13 01:51:41
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +2
    It is ABO, and the way to insure that is to vote republican.
  • Arizona... ScottyG... 2012/05/13 11:28:35 (edited)
    Arizona1950
    +2
    If you think that than you lose either way. Romney is a globalist and because of his money and his big money backers he has the potential to make his term as president far worse than anything we have seen to date. If you don't stand for the constitution to protect YOUR rights ... you are only going to get more of the same and watch the take-down of America for profit and you along with it.

    Question ... Paul wins the nomination I assume you will vote for him. Sadly I see those who back Romney will refuse to vote or will vote Obama instead. So what's that tell you about it being ABO.
  • ScottyG... Arizona... 2012/05/13 16:46:53
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    My stand has always been I will vote whoever gets the repub nod. Romney wasn't my first choice, but he will be the nominee and because of that he will get my vote.

    The number no matter how you slice it and disagree don't and never have, favored RP.

    And how does fraud fit in to your logic? Who committed what fraud?
  • Arizona... ScottyG... 2012/05/13 16:52:18
    Arizona1950
    +1
    If he gets the nominee it wil be because people are too dumb to see he is the same as the Obama.

    Trying to vet delegates AFTER the deadline is what Romney tried to do in Nevada. The GOP shut down at least one county in Maine that supported Paul and wouldn't allow them to vote because of a "snowstorm" that produced only 3 inches of snow in a state that is use to dealing with snowstorms of a foot or more.

    Romney's "fraud" and "disrespect for the rules" goes back to his governorhip of MA ... he's another Obama and will be worse because he has the money and influence to do so ... the taking down of America for profit.

  • T. James H Arizona... 2012/05/13 17:10:58
  • Arizona... T. James H 2012/05/13 20:00:07
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Paul did win the majority of delgates in Nevada and won in Romney's "home" state winning the majoirty of 20 out of 24 delegates.

    Go Ron Paul!
  • ScottyG... Arizona... 2012/05/13 20:02:08
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    I don't think that any republican is like Obama. But you can think what you want to.
  • Arizona... ScottyG... 2012/05/13 20:09:33
    Arizona1950
    +1
    Do you forget Romney was a Democrat first ...
  • ScottyG... Arizona... 2012/05/14 16:09:50
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    So was Andrew Breitbart. Changing political views isn't new or a bad thing when you move to the right.
  • Arizona... ScottyG... 2012/05/15 00:04:53
    Arizona1950
    +1
    He has moved to the right because he says he's moved to the right ... ALL his direction and policies are very much to the left and just as extreme as the Obamas. When are you going to see this when the police start breaking down your door for some reason or another which has everything to do with privacy or ownership and nothing to do with being a threat to national security?
  • ScottyG... Arizona... 2012/05/15 02:03:46
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    Must have really pissed you off when he dropped out today!

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