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Pat 2012/08/18 02:47:23
Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
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  • Muriel 2012/08/18 19:48:59
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    Muriel
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    Ronald Reagan was the last great president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • cuzzbuzzla 2012/08/20 20:00:55
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    cuzzbuzzla
    How can you not say that Ronald Reagan, the man that ended the cold war and turned Russia from being an enemy into a friend, is beyond me. Anyone who says otherwise is either blinded by their own ideology, ignorant or both.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/08/20 18:58:28
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I think that Reagan was the last of the great President. As big as a crook as Nixon he was far better than Obama and Carter and as good as Clinton. I put Ike and Kennedy on an even plan. Ike for his work on the infrastructure that got growth really going and then Kennedy for his income tax cuts a leadership in challenging America. Hard telling how things would have been if Nixon had not try to protect the very men that betrayed him by organizing the break-in and then refused to come forward and admit their wrong deeds. If he had been able to push his agenda of energy independence we may have been a very different country today. Every President has failed us since him in achieving this goal.
  • *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg' 2012/08/20 00:14:24
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg'
    Dwight balanced the budget. Reagan didn't. 'Nuf said.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/08/19 20:50:25
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Here is the WHOLE quote:

    'Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.'

    Dwight D. Eisenhower, From a speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953
  • Torchma... Torchma... 2012/08/19 20:52:27
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Was Adolf Hitler was the last great progressive?

    "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." (p 6 & 7)--Adolf Hitler
  • Pat Torchma... 2012/08/19 20:53:22
    Pat
    Thank you!
  • Bob DiN 2012/08/19 07:42:01
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    Bob DiN
    I Like Ike!
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/08/19 03:37:06
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +2
    What, not St. Ronny? I'm shocked, Pat. :)
  • Pat jubil8 ... 2012/08/19 04:26:34
    Pat
    +1
    I was born under Truman and grew up under Eisenhower. He was leaving office when I turned 10 and all I could think of was "What will we do without President Eisenhower". He was the one that we always saw on the news. I was an avid reader of the newspapers and I thought we really would just never be able to manage without him. He was kind of a grandfather figure and he always seemed to have such authority. We felt safe with him in charge. Then JFK was killed, MLK was killed, RFK was killed, we almost blew ourselves and the world to kingdom come in the Cuban missal crisis and my childhood illusions vanished. The only other president I really liked after that was Clinton and now Obama. Whatever someone may say about either of them, I think they both had and have the country's best interests at heart despite their personal foibles.
    As for St. Ronny, I did not vote for him the first time around. I did vote for him the second time around and I can remember standing in City Hall Plaza in Boston cheering him on.....Now looking back, I think he's responsible for the beginning of the mess we're in now. And the two Bushes finished the job.
    I'm really not looking for a response from anyone. I just wish I could go back to the 50's when we felt safe (despite the red scare), people had jobs, people were nicer, the pace was not so frantic all the time and summer vacations seemed to last almost forever.
  • Tedster 2012/08/18 23:18:31
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    Tedster
    +2
    It's important to note that Ike succeeded at everything he tried including becoming the President of an Ivy League college.
  • Muriel 2012/08/18 19:48:59
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    Muriel
    +3
    Ronald Reagan was the last great president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Golden Panther 2012/08/18 15:55:09
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    Golden Panther
    +3
    Ronald Reagan has that honor, hands down. Ike was good but he did not have to face the scourge of communism taking over the congress and supreme court...much like obumbo has encourage and is doing. I might add that the Nixon, Ford, and both Bush the elder and the younger were all better presidents than any demoncrat in this or the last century...but, again that would not take much.
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  • TheTruth1313 2012/08/18 06:53:52
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    You forgot Nixon. Got us into China and out of Vietnam. His one fault was his paranoia. Dwight D was pretty darn good his own self as well though.
  • Pat TheTrut... 2012/08/19 04:31:15
    Pat
    I didn't forget Nixon. I kind of thought that being impeached and having to resign from the presidency kind of cancelled out any real "greatness". He was a schemer and I always felt bad for his wife, Pat. I think he was a cold fish and you see that in the way Pat Nixon always looked like a scared puppy every time we saw her. She never stepped out of character. Kind of sad really.
  • TheTrut... Pat 2012/08/19 07:43:04
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    That is why I mentioned the fault of paranoia. Besides, if you were actually going to use what Nixon got impeached for as the bench mark, then, Clinton and Obama would have both been impeached. Nixon's accomplishments still outweigh and out shine his political demise.
    I do agree with you about Dwight D though. Good call there.
  • S and S Pat 2012/08/20 01:55:09
  • KingdomNow 2012/08/18 06:29:30
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    KingdomNow
    +2
    Eisenhower was often wrong. He chose Montgomery's battle plans over Patton's, 'nuff said.
  • Pat KingdomNow 2012/08/18 06:31:08
    Pat
    +1
    I believe that occurred during WWII prior to his presidency.
  • KingdomNow Pat 2012/08/18 06:32:32
    KingdomNow
    +1
    Yes, Patton was already dead...your point?
  • Pat KingdomNow 2012/08/18 06:43:41
    Pat
    My point was that the incident you mentioned occurred during WWII prior to Eisenhower's presidency. It had no bearing on his performance as president.
  • KingdomNow Pat 2012/08/18 06:45:49
    KingdomNow
    Eisenhower was never known as a competent president. He was elected solely on his WW2 credentials.
  • Tedster KingdomNow 2012/08/18 20:03:13
    Tedster
    +1
    You couldn't be more wrong about his presidential competency. There was peace and the economy was booming not to mention his contribution to the interstate highway systems that have benefitted our nation to such a huge extent ever since. His parting military/industrial complex speech and aversion to Vietnam are hallmarks and part of his legacy.

    So, despite his playing 1000+ rounds of golf over his two terms he's now been re-rated upward as a good to near great President. So, now you know the facts about that.

    You ARE correct that he accepted too many of Monty's plans such as Operations Goodwood and Market Garden however he was also pressured by his need to balance out what our British allies wanted to do and what Churchilll pushed him to do. His was a very political position. Another strategic mistake and perhaps the greatest one that he made was the battle of the Huertgen forrest which was an absolute meat grinding, battle of attrition that happened just prior to the Battle of the Bulge and therefore received little attention.
  • KingdomNow Tedster 2012/08/18 21:55:43
    KingdomNow
    The problem is that as president Eisenhower didn't lead. The government was on autopilot because he really didn't lead, he was swept along by events because he was out of his depth.

    Senior officers rarely make good presidents, Grant is probably the worst, Jackson another. Washington was a reluctant president and was trusted by the other Founding Fathers because he didn't want to be a politician.

    The two quotes employed are simply dinosaurs of the era. You may as well quote a man a century before defending slavery. The Cold War era was a time when the US had to face down the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. It was Reagan's determination to force the issue that pushed the Communists houses of cards over, by flexing the muscles of Capitalism.
    Eisenhower's second quote is purely political- The mythical status of Roosevelt was still fresh and the American people too naive to question the long-term consequences of Keynesian economics. In fact, most politicians today have no understanding of the failure of Keynesian policies in place.
    Economically, the Eisenhower economy was considered stagnant.

    If somebody wants to deify Eisenhower over two quotes because they agree with their content, that is their choice.

    Nixon ended the Vietnam War, ended the Draft, enacted Civil Rights legi...
    The problem is that as president Eisenhower didn't lead. The government was on autopilot because he really didn't lead, he was swept along by events because he was out of his depth.

    Senior officers rarely make good presidents, Grant is probably the worst, Jackson another. Washington was a reluctant president and was trusted by the other Founding Fathers because he didn't want to be a politician.

    The two quotes employed are simply dinosaurs of the era. You may as well quote a man a century before defending slavery. The Cold War era was a time when the US had to face down the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact nations. It was Reagan's determination to force the issue that pushed the Communists houses of cards over, by flexing the muscles of Capitalism.
    Eisenhower's second quote is purely political- The mythical status of Roosevelt was still fresh and the American people too naive to question the long-term consequences of Keynesian economics. In fact, most politicians today have no understanding of the failure of Keynesian policies in place.
    Economically, the Eisenhower economy was considered stagnant.

    If somebody wants to deify Eisenhower over two quotes because they agree with their content, that is their choice.

    Nixon ended the Vietnam War, ended the Draft, enacted Civil Rights legislation and was the first to push for energy independence. He would rank as the second greatest Republican after Reagan, not for what he said but what he accomplished.
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  • Tedster KingdomNow 2012/08/18 23:15:16
    Tedster
    +1
    First of all whatever happens on a president's watch is on him. Had things not gone so well I doubt you'd be so generous in your treatment of Ike or called it being on autopilot.

    You neglected to mention that your disgraced hero Nixon ran on getting us out of Vietnam and won two elections doing it. I.E. He took much too long to get us out as we lost 58,000 men there an merely postponed the inevitable. His signature achievement is generally thought to be him going off to China and Russia like a Democrat and opening up trade internationally despite making his initial impact politically as Joe McCarthy's young , anti-commie lieutenant, Congressman in the late 40's.

    As for negatives there were many. He had numerous Atty Generals indicted (Michell and Kleindienst to name but two) not to mention Spiro Agnew and various scandals attendent to his administration such as the ATT scandal, the grain deal, the milk deal, him using the IRS to target his political enemies and him having the most insular two terms since W. It's important to note that he only resigned because he was going to get impeached had he not.

    As for Reagan, you somehow neglected to mention the Iran-contra scandal and how lucky he was to survive that.
  • KingdomNow Tedster 2012/08/19 03:14:49
    KingdomNow
    I don't consider Nixon or any other president a hero. They are servants and some accompish more than others.

    Senator McCarthy has been vindicated -Even the Soviets admitted that the investigations shut down their operations in the US government but too late to prevent many nuclear research secrets from being stolen.

    Nixon was brave enough to step down so Clinton earned the title of the second president to be impeached. Like Clinton, the current Fraud is using the IRS to persecute opposition.

    The contrived Iran-Contra "scandal" had no truth and no teeth. The worst Reagan could be accused of is not consulting Congress in doing his job.

    Perhaps you need a refresher course in basic civics. While a president often serves as a lightning rod for negative news or the hero when the news is good, a president that allows Congress to call the shots is just a figurehead. Eisenhower was a figurehead who made a point to avoid rocking the boat instead of leading the country.
  • Tedster KingdomNow 2012/08/29 07:36:54
    Tedster
    McCarthy vindicated? By whom? Nutbags like Glenn Beck or Alex Jones or WND? And Nixon was "brave" enough to step down. Whew! As for Ike, if the Congress is doing what you want why try and change that?
  • KingdomNow Tedster 2012/08/29 10:28:32
    KingdomNow
    The Soviet records that confirmed McCarthy's assertions.
  • Pat KingdomNow 2012/08/19 04:34:12
    Pat
    The economy was booming, everyone had jobs, new cars, new highways. We were living the good life under Eisenhower and then the whole thing went to hell in a hand basket. I'm a little older than you and I always felt "safe" with Eisenhower in office, probably felt he was a grandfather figure.
  • KingdomNow Pat 2012/08/19 05:23:35
    KingdomNow
    People felt safe and prosperous under Reagan's father figure. Your point?

    Eisenhower was described as a "dime-store new-dealer" a politician afraid to eliminate the programs started by FDR which are on life support today because they are failed programs.

    Eisenhower was best know as having a "hands off" domestic policy, hence the economic boom brought on by the draw-down of the post WW2 military.

    The highway system was built primarily to facilitate military convoys and were based upon Hitler's Autobahn system, used to transport the Nazi war machine from one border to another. At least he learned something while in Europe.
  • actionjksn 2012/08/18 05:18:34
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    actionjksn
    Well Kennedy was pretty good too. Which is probably why they killed him.
  • Tedster actionjksn 2012/08/18 20:06:01
    Tedster
    It's pretty hard to call Lee Harvey Oswald, the man who killed JFK "they". The reason conspiracies fail is that someone blabs. It is interesting to note that in the nearly 50 yrs since the assasination and despite 75% of Americans thinking it was a conspircay, no one has come forward to claim they were in on it.
  • Pat actionjksn 2012/08/19 03:26:16
    Pat
    Kennedy was a Democrat.
  • actionjksn Pat 2012/08/19 04:28:13
    actionjksn
    How often do you think the democrats would agree with Kennedy today? Kennedy was more conservative than most republicans these days.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2012/08/18 05:04:37
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    He was a better general than president.
  • FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX 2012/08/18 04:59:04
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    FAWKES' NOOSE ~ ΔTX
    You're right. Now tell us which candidate's agenda more closely resembles Eisenhower's

    Eisenhower: Raise Taxes
    Eisenhower: Create public sector jobs
    Eisenhower: Institute Public Works Programs to decrease unemployment
    Eisenhower: Promoted the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 - The largest Public Works Program in US History.
    Eisenhower: Cut spending commensurate with increasing revenue.
    Eisenhower: Believed that taxes could not be cut until the budget was balanced.
    Eisenhower: Allowed recessions to occur, to wring out inflation.
    Eisenhower: Overrode governors to protect Civil Rights (Little Rock Nine)
    Eisenhower: Protected Egypt from Britain, France and Israel.
    Eisenhower: Dispatched troops to Viet Nam offering military, economic, and technical assistance.
    Eisenhower: Sent troops to Lebanon promoting the creation of the Baghdad Pact between Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, and Iran.
    Eisenhower: Utilized covert actions.
    Eisenhower: Opened relations with Fascist Spain and leader Generalissimo Francisco Franco building a trade and military alliance with the Fascist Nation.
  • kyle 2012/08/18 03:58:16 (edited)
    No, Dwight D. Eisenhower was not the last great Republican President.
    kyle
    +1
    Calvin Coolidge was the last great Republican president.

    Ford wasn't too bad, but I wouldn't call him great.


    calvin coolidge republican president
  • Matt 2012/08/18 03:34:42
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    Matt
    John F.Kennedy brought the Cuban missile crisis to a quick and economical end.

    That was the last problem to be solved, or even improved upon by either party.
    Cuban Missile Crisis
  • RogerCoppock 2012/08/18 03:28:06 (edited)
    Yes, Dwight D. Eisenhower was indeed the last great Republican President.
    RogerCoppock
    Since Ike, the entire Republican Party has lost its mind.

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