Nov. 4th 2008: A day that will live in infamy, OR a day of re-birth for America?

by Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope Posted 2009/01/15 18:47:16

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	A day that will live in infamy!	17 votes	35%
	A day of re-birth for America!	12 votes	24%
	Undecided	20 votes	41%

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Lanikai 2009/01/15 19:28:31

A day that will live in infamy!

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I think this will turn into the biggest mistake in our republics short history. His policies so far are not sound and his social decisions will have far reaching consequences-looks like a lot of reaching into our pockets. I do not like the lifting of the gays in the militarty ban, I do not want more welfare for corporations or banks and I think he is taking us down a rosy soundy but very rough road to a socialist society with a serious cutting down of our individual rights. I am disappointed so far in his choices, as the candidate of change he sure is getting a lot of Clinton hacks and theirs was a very corrupt admin, maybe he will keep his promise and his will be different, so far it looks like he is playing the repayment game-all his radical causes are getting handed everything they want and the people who did not vote for him ie:most workers, chrisitans and conservatives, are getting effed over and left out. We shall see.
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jackolantyrn356 2009/11/29 18:19:05

A day that will live in infamy!

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That is if we are able to have a history that will include this stinky thing. I can't say turd anymore.

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DC Andrews 2009/04/24 05:37:13

A day of re-birth for America!

History...Regardless of outcome, success or failure of the new administration that fact will remain the same. I challenge anyone to say that the 2008 election will not go as a huge turning point in America! Even if this administration goes bad it still had positive implications for our future...And no party line holders don't bring up just your socialism fears either that's not what I mean....So don't even start with that.

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kicknass 2009/01/30 16:59:06

A day of re-birth for America!

I'm prayin at least. I grew up with hope so I'm just keeping it alive.

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Marek 2009/01/21 01:09:11

A day that will live in infamy!

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November 4th 2008 was the day when Americans made the greatest mistake in history by electing marxist communist with muslim background for the highest office in the land and most powerful man in the world. Today he is in position to reverse and destroy the gains made by pro democracy movements around the world and advance totalitarianism in the worst tradition of soviet-nazi style marxism. So many of Obama maniacs say his critics are wrong and he has not done anything yet and give him a chance. After he does what he wants it will be very costly to reverse the damage so he must be opposed every step of the way. The comming mid-term election should bring back republican majority to Senate at least and if possible Congress.

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DC Andrews to Marek 2009/04/24 05:46:50

If you knew what you were talking about at all you would know the term...."soviet-nazi style marxism" you used makes absolutely no sense and in fact impossible to mix by definition or by historical standards. Disagree all you want with policy but cut the inflammatory,childish,biased talking points. It really doesn't help you or anyone else.

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Marek to DC Andrews 2009/04/24 06:36:58

You are entitled to your rant and I am to mine.

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DC Andrews to Marek 2009/04/24 20:21:26

Don't get me wrong I am not at all trying to takeaway your right to do that...by all means. In a public forum though if you say something that doesn't make logical sense though expect someone to point that out, that's all. You can do just as much and strongly disagree with him and not use exaggerated terms. I said the same thing to the people who called Bush a Nazi as well.

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bearnecesitys 2009/01/17 23:09:37

A day of re-birth for America!

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I think Obama is smart, charismatic, a leader through diplomacy not fear unless called for. I like his vetting process for his staff. Yes, I think this is a positive turn of the page in American history. I think his challenges are no greater than another great unproven president: Abraham Lincoln.

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kicknass to bearnec... 2009/01/30 16:58:06

I agree.

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mik 2009/01/17 22:54:09

Undecided

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the day the constitution , our rights, our beliefs and our nation was destroyed and jan 20 is just the beginning of the destruction.and it sure has nothing to do with the color of his skin. he has enough faults without me having to pull a race card out like he does.

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professor71 2009/01/17 17:32:40

Undecided

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I'll hold my opinion until President Obama has some time actually in his position. To condemn him or heap praise upon him at this stage is pretty pointless. He isn't even officially in charge yet. Give it time and we'll all know the right answer to the question.

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looneysinger 2009/01/17 04:26:11

A day that will live in infamy!

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this is a sad day in america! the next part will be the worst! GOD HELP US!

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Trader1 is kerbonkin' 2009/01/16 21:11:15

Undecided

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A rebirth of what? A rebirth for America would be taking us back to the founding fathers' principals and that is definitely not what 0bama is bringing to the table. I don't think it's a day that will live in infamy either; just a sad day with potential consequences that could impact the way we live in a very negative way.

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Heptarch 2009/01/16 17:00:16

A day of re-birth for America!

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I am really eager for the Obama administration to start.

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Comrade Sean 2009/01/16 14:18:40

A day of re-birth for America!

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I think there are some who will always fear change of any kind. To survive as a nation we must constantly change, especially being a multi-cultural nation as we are. The world is changing all around us right now, and the US is one of the major forces creating that change for better or worse. As capitalism and democracy becomes a global standard, of course we will start to operate as a world governance. This will account for many conspiracy theorists to freak out, but no world leader of any powerful nation can escape the responsibility of working toward a unified world. I look forward to seeing the progress the world makes together.

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Trader1... to Comrade... 2009/01/16 21:22:43

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Fear change? Um ... no. Wanting change just for the sake of change doesn't automatically make it right. Not all change is a good thing - as in all things common sense must apply.

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Comrade... to Trader1... 2009/01/16 21:30:39

Than we disagree. You are happy with things just as they are. I, on the other hand, am very unhappy with the direction the last eight years has taken us in. The change Barack Obama has spoken about in his writing is exactly the kind of change in leadership this country needs in my opinion. That is why I voted for him. You obviously feel that more of what we had was your cup of tea. We obviously don't share the same sensibilities.

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Trader1... to Comrade... 2009/01/16 21:36:43

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I didn't say I was happy with the way things were. It's kind of silly of you to assume that because I didn't like the change 0bama was offering that I dislike change completely.

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Comrade... to Trader1... 2009/01/16 21:44:21

Well, I for one have no fear about the change Obama is talking about. It's nearly the same as the Clinton administration and I was very happy with Clinton. I looked at McCain and he seemed to actually become George W over the course of his campaign. I did admire him before he started to kind of devolve into a far right conservative. In my opinion, it seemed like he was a sacrificial lamb for the Republican party.

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Trader1... to Comrade... 2009/01/16 22:04:47

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If you feel 0bama's change nearly mirrors Clinton, how is that change? Change from Bush maybe, but not the change 0bama promised on the campaign trail. McCain was as far from being a conservative as he could get without actually becoming a liberal but I won't argue with your view, we both see things through different perpectives.

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Marek to Trader1... 2009/01/21 02:05:21

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Lenin's label for western liberals, socialists and idealistic true belivers in communism was "useful idiots."

According to ex-KGB officer Yuri Bezmenov after the "useful idiots" served their purpose they become "useless idiots" who know too much so they are shot by their former comrads.

For example; Castro had Che Guevara killed, Stalin ordered execution of Leon Trotsky who was killed by the communist agents in Mexico in 1942, Hitler ordered Ernst Roehm be killed in 1934.

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Marek to Trader1... 2009/01/21 02:05:21

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Lenin's label for western liberals, socialists and idealistic true belivers in communism was "useful idiots."

According to ex-KGB officer Yuri Bezmenov after the "useful idiots" served their purpose they become "useless idiots" who know too much so they are shot by their former comrads.

For example; Castro had Che Guevara killed, Stalin ordered execution of Leon Trotsky who was killed by the communist agents in Mexico in 1942, Hitler ordered Ernst Roehm be killed in 1934.

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SoD to Comrade... 2012/03/21 19:39:14

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"As capitalism and democracy becomes a global standard, of course we will start to operate as a world governance."

Wouldn't you rather have a representative government?

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Irish2535 2009/01/16 06:19:13

A day that will live in infamy!

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He's not even been sworn in yet and we are seeing proof of what the next 4 years are going to be like. Look at his cabinet picks - the majority are crooks; then look at how the Dems are already rushing new Spend! Spend! Spend! legislation through Congress with barely a whimper from the Repubs. Reagan must be rolling over in his grave!

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THOR 2009/01/16 04:39:24

Undecided

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Neither - just another election, really. I don't think it will end up being earthshaking either way, which is kind of nice actually.

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Eppie 2009/01/16 04:10:15

A day that will live in infamy!

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Infamy: when rogues like Chavez and Amadidijan send gratulations to O, it sends a dire message. They approve of the election of a total incompetent person who will be soft on terrorists and corrupt leaders like themselves. The wealthy left bought this election and all of us will suffer.

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Cal ~ Pegleg4570 ~ 2009/01/16 03:57:35

A day that will live in infamy!

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Peggy 2009/01/16 02:33:30

A day of re-birth for America!

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Looking back will only help to not repeat history. Looking to the future can bring hope, ideas, and new promise.

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Dan™: R... to Peggy 2009/01/16 03:22:30

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... and mistakes too. Especially if we ignore the lessons to be gained from looking back on our history.

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." --Santayana

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Irish2535 to Peggy 2009/01/16 06:22:20

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Well, Obama is setting up to do some repeating. His New Deal part II is coming & the Dems are going to spend this country into the ground, using such BS arguments like we need to spend more to get out of the hole we are in!

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Dan™: R... to Irish2535 2009/01/16 14:55:13

Yeah, I'm no financial expert or anything ... but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone "spending their way out" of a bankruptcy, or a home foreclosure, or any other debt. It's insanity.

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Diane to Peggy 2009/01/16 12:57:48

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Hope and promise? Sheesh,,,,,for what? Freebies paid for by the tax payer?

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JDLogan 2009/01/16 02:28:21

Undecided

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One hundred years from now, I really don't think anyone will give a damn.

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Diane 2009/01/16 02:07:54

A day that will live in infamy!

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There will be a new 1040 form......one question, one demand. How much did you make? Send us all of it.

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anonymous 2009/01/16 01:50:21

Undecided

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We'll see, won't we?

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Dan™: R... to anonymous 2009/01/16 01:59:56

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That's the one thing I think everyone can agree upon: we will have to wait and see. One way or the other.

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anonymous to Dan™: R... 2009/01/16 02:02:56

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Ha! Not at all! There's plenty of folks, on both sides, who are utterly convinced that either America is lost beyond all hope of salvage, or that America's golden age has already begun.

Too bad, eh?

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Diane to anonymous 2009/01/16 02:09:19

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Do you think that the uneducated have any clue as to the damage they did?

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anonymous to Diane 2009/01/16 02:12:31

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See what I'm talking about, Dan?

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Heptarch to Diane 2009/01/16 17:03:00

They must. They saw the President they voted for do horrible damage to our country over the past eight years. And they saw the rest of us vote to reclaim America's soul on Nov. 4th.

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