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New Twist On Birth Certificate Issue !

Matt 2012/02/06 14:46:19
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Most interesting, and with verification links provided. I'd say it deserves to be put into the light for questioning!











Sent by Korean War Vet, author, Degree in History. New twist on Birth Certificate issue











It
was brought to light that back in 1961 people of color were called
'Negroes.' So how can this 'birth certificate' state he is
'African-American' when the term wasn't even used back then? This isn't
over! This is interesting!











Here is a comment from a reader to George Ure at Urban Survival.com: "As you all know, Donald Trump made a big deal about Obama's birth certificate.











I
will tell you right now that I had never given this "birther" issue any
credit. I watched the hype and the crazies come out. I completely
dismissed the entire ordeal altogether.











In
fact, it was not until the White House released the birth certificate
that it had gained my attention. I am the studious sort of guy, and I
have plenty of time on my hands. So, I took a close look at this
document.













While
I would have thought that this issue would have been closed for good
(and, got the crazies to crawl back into their holes), I found two
extremely strange inconsistencies that merit some attention.















First
of all, the birth certificate that the White House released lists
Obama's birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as
his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also
shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was
born in "Kenya, East Africa".















This
wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did
not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27
years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born
in a country that did not yet exist?
















Up
and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East
Africa Protectorate". But, this is not the only thing that I found that
just does not jive.















The
second item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in.
On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place
of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This
cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "Kaui
Keolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home",
respectively.















The
name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological
Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this
particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if
this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?













Go
ahead, look it up. I am not talking crazy talk....these are the facts.
Like I said, I thought that this was a non-issue until the actual
certificate was released. Now that it has been released, of course I had
to look into it. I have found these issues, now I know that something
is up. If you doubt me, just look at the following resources:













Sure as heck, the hospital part is true, as you can read about the 1978 merger here.





















http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya The
first direct elections for Africans to the Legislative Council took
place in 1957. Despite British hopes of handing power to "moderate"
African rivals, it was the Kenya African National Union (KANU) of Jomo
Kenyatta that formed a government shortly before Kenya became
independent on 12 December 1963, on the same day forming the first
Constitution of Kenya.



















"In God We Trust"... Get ready for November 2012.





































Very
interesting email. Though I have always given the man a break on this
issue, If these facts are true, it sure makes the birth certificate look
suspicious. It makes you wonder why "someone with authority and
research capability" couldn't do some vetting and settle this once and
for all. My son-in-law has to get a background investigation every time
he changes law enforcement agencies. I had to prove who I was,
including my father's naturalized citizenship since he was born in
Canada, to attain my top secret security clearance when I was in the US
Air Force. You would think we would have some clear and absolute
vetting rules when it comes to holding the highest elected office in the
land!

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  • ronbo51 2012/06/18 17:54:08
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    ronbo51
    +1
    http://blog.beaumontenterpris... birth certificate for alien
    HEY!!< and these are not fake either!!!!!!


    lol

    there is also some question of this persons birth certificate also birth certificate for alien
  • ConLibFraud 2012/06/16 20:46:56
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    ConLibFraud
    +3
    All of congress should be in prison for sitting on their asses and doing nothing about the fraud in the oval!
  • Arizona1950 2012/06/16 20:11:34
    Something Else !
    Arizona1950
    +3
    New information ... Hawiian Birth Certificates can be bought and they have been bought since before WWII

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2012/06/16 19:54:51
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +4
    There is no BHO2. Birth certificates for Batman are just as valid.

    I'm still inclined to the Bari Malak Shabazz theory but this one ain't bad.

    http://www2.wnct.com/ugc/snap...
  • Muver 2012/06/16 19:44:56
    Something Else !
    Muver
    +3
    And the smoke and mirrors act of this presidency continues....what will the puppet have to say about this...NOTHING>>>>
  • Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/16 19:34:46 (edited)
    Something Smells Fishy !
    Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    I saw that part too on that Birth Certificate.Thinking that was a big giveaway of it being a fake.Because I remember that negro was the common American legal term for that race.Till the 1970's when that legal term fell out of favor!

    Obama birth certificate
  • Deep007 2012/06/16 19:24:38
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    Deep007
    +7
    Always was...always will be
  • Beccy 2012/06/16 19:23:55
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    Beccy
    +5
    The plot thickens
  • gunner 2012/04/07 03:49:37
    Something Smells Fishy !
    gunner
    +3
    With the media silence(Censorship), still, this is fast becoming plastered all over the internet. Pravda too. So Europe is in the know. And there sits Obama in the WH acting like nothing is wrong. The Communists backing him up. I wonder who`s brite idea it was to buy all the 40mm ammo in DHS. Typical paranoia
  • Matt gunner 2012/04/08 19:48:47
    Matt
    +3
    Everybody should keep an extra 400 million bullets around the house.... Just in case ! 400 million rounds
  • gunner Matt 2012/04/09 03:06:03
    gunner
    +1
    Those look nice. Please pardon this comment. Sometimes I wax a bit sad and bitter. It does occur to me that the world has so many mouth watering, absolutely delicious, diabolical, and near perfect ways of killing people. Always on a quest for better methods. Body disposal can be problematic. Babies can be used for health food as in China. Adults in mass graves isn`t necessarily the best application for land use. Poopie pits in metropolitan ares could be a solution. But on a large scale, probably not to efficient. Incinerators are the best, I think. Save ammo and man power, just march them in. There, it`s out of my system. I`m OK now.
  • John "By God" American 2012/02/11 21:30:27
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    John "By God" American
    +4
    He knows he's not American, his handlers know he's not American, his inner circle knows he's not American,. The only ones who don't know he's not American are the knuckleheads on SH, and elsewhere, that continue to defend his citizenship...
  • Grandbrother 2012/02/08 00:36:53
    Something Else !
    Grandbrother
    +4
    Kenya existed prior to 1964 as the "Colony of Kenya" in some portions of the country, and as "Protectorate of Kenya" in others. I don't find it strange at all for that to be written simply as "Kenya" on the certificate.

    As for the hospital name, it was known as the "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" from 1931 through 1971, as correctly listed on Obama's birth certificate. The merge you reference combined it with the "Kauikeolani Children's Hospital" to create the "Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children". You can see reference to the history of the name here (it's #24): http://www.sacredhealing.com/...

    So I guess you can relax!
  • Maria 2012/02/07 18:10:40
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    Maria
    +3
    Wow ...cannot image how Obama thinks it got it all made and look at what he make mistake geezes...hospital was name later in late 70's..yes it is true back then don't say Africa America in 60's..just word use to be the color or either Negro in back then...
  • Bronti 2012/02/07 16:08:06
    Something Else !
    Bronti
    +5
    Well, lets take a closer look at Trump the accuser. His mother was born in Scotland, his paternal grandparents on this father's side were born in Germany, and he married a Russian. Conclusion: Trump's a Fascist Communist.
  • Seonag 2012/02/07 12:59:11
    Obama's Birth Certificate Is A Fake !
    Seonag
    +8
    I've seen this list of 'problems' with the certificate before. As a teenager in 1961, I don't remember ever hearing the term African-American or even Black, other than the Black Panthers (which I took for their uniforms of always wearing black, not their skin color). There are too many questions/problems. BUT, after seeing the Democrats in Congress were trying to clear the way since 2003 for him to take office by changing/defining Natural Born Citizen and even meeting with 8 or the 9 Supreme Court Justices in closed session, it appear the 'fix is in' and short of some judges having the balls to stand up to those pushing this through, there is little we can do.
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/02/07 13:21:29
    ProudProgressive
    +11
    The birth certificate does not say "African-American". It says "African", which is exactly what a person from Africa would describe himself as.

    And if you honestly think that in 2003 there was a conspiracy to "clear the way" for a State Senator that very few people had ever heard of to illegally usurp the Presidency then I think you have more problems than just an inability to believe 89 separate judges. In 2003 the Democrats were focused on getting a real illegal President out of office. If Kerry had won the 2004 election then he would obviously be the candidate for 2008 as well, so the earliest Obama could have had a shot was this year, 2012.

    And the reality is that debate over changing the natural born citizen requirement has been debated for the last hundred years. Do you really think they were planning to get Obama illegally elected before he was born? Specific candidates aside, many people do honestly believe that the requirement should be changed. There are many Americans who were not born here but who have proved their loyalty to this nation and their ability to do something good for this country. It has nothing to do with one candidate.
  • Seonag ProudPr... 2012/02/07 14:02:21
    Seonag
    +5
    You are right --- it says African which is not a race and was not then considered a race. Would it be acceptable for a parent from Europe to put "European" as a race?

    Disagree with you on everything else.
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/02/07 14:06:15
    ProudProgressive
    +7
    You are welcome to your own opinion. My understanding is that the "race" category was self-reported, and it would be no different than someone saying "Irish" or "Italian". But be that as it may, the burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused. If someone truly believes that the President wasn't born in Honolulu, let them prove it.

    Let's say the birth certificate is a forgery. Does that prove that the President was not born in Hawaii? Why is it that in four years with uncountable Right Wing resources not ONE shred of actual evidence showing the President was born anywhere but Honolulu has been unearthed?
  • Seonag ProudPr... 2012/02/07 16:15:20
    Seonag
    +7
    And you are welcome to your opinion. I just find that it is strange that Obama has spent over 4 years and a lot of money fighting this in court. Wouldn't it be just as easy to let the original Hawaii certificate or microfiche copy of the original examined and compared to the others of that time. That would put paid to the issue. Oh, and if it is a forgery, then an original certificate to prove he was born in Hawaii would need to be found.
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/02/07 16:24:13
    ProudProgressive
    +5
    Here's a certified copy of the original:

    obama long form

    Here's "another of that time":

    nordyke birth certificate
  • Seonag ProudPr... 2012/02/07 16:43:37
    Seonag
    +6
    Has anyone explained why a certificate 'accepted' on August 11, 1961 has a lower number than one 'accepted' on August 8, 1961?
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/02/07 16:52:12
  • Smitten... ProudPr... 2012/02/07 21:25:29
  • Smitten... Seonag 2012/02/07 21:20:04
  • momma-o... Seonag 2012/02/08 21:07:16 (edited)
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +2
    Actually Mrs Nordyke, ( the woman who showed the lower number) worked at the hospital in the records dept no doubt, also had been photographed with O's white parents on a cruise vacation. humm, are people so blind that they believe he was born here? Hopefully they didn't scrub this info I had to copy it, so much was scrubbed when the heat was on. We have been played Seonag. She knew the Parents of Obama father and step, she did a big study at East West coast using all of them, people are so foolish to cover for this guy.
    http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/...
  • ProudPr... momma-o... 2012/02/08 21:16:42
    ProudProgressive
    +6
    You birthers are just an endless source of entertainment. Thank you for proving that there are human beings so ignorant and so blinded by their racism and disdain for the United States of America that they will continue to humiliate themselves no matter how idiotic they've already proved themselves to be.

    birther facepalm
  • momma-o... ProudPr... 2012/02/08 23:21:51
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +2
    Your tactics don't work on me, I'm not paid or deceived. Enjoy it while it lasts.
  • BlytheS... ProudPr... 2012/06/17 07:32:57
    BlytheSpirit~bn0
    +1
    The level of ignorance and stubborness is truly staggering.
  • Selkets... momma-o... 2012/06/20 13:36:03 (edited)
    Selketskiss
    +2
    So what they are saying is Hawaii turned itself into a huge cash cow with all those illegals that kept coming for years and giving them birth certif...which they left Hawaii came to the mainland and were instant citizens...if this really is true, to bad we can't kick them out and go back to having 49 states.....
  • momma-o... Selkets... 2012/06/20 14:37:00
    momma-on-the-hit-list
    +2
    Sounds that way to me, seems to be what the schools do, the census does, what amnesty does.
  • Selkets... momma-o... 2012/06/20 21:50:03
    Selketskiss
    +2
    Frankly I am stunned and horrified that Hawaii would actually do something like that after being part of the US...scoundrels..
  • Smitten... Seonag 2012/02/07 20:45:13
  • Seonag Smitten... 2012/02/08 12:44:30
    Seonag
    +1
    You obviously haven't worked in the legal system. Cost awards rarely come anywhere near what the actual lawyer charges are.
  • ProudPr... Seonag 2012/02/08 15:11:26
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    You're correct about that. However, you're completely incorrect in claiming that the President has spent a lot of money fighting this in court. In the majority of the birther cases the government hasn't even bothered to appear, and in the few that they did, the costs were borne by the DOJ. So in effect, you're paying the President's legal bills. Thanks.

    And just out of curiosity, who do you think is financing Orly Taitz and the rest of the plaintiffs?
  • Smitten... ProudPr... 2012/02/08 22:31:05
  • ProudPr... Smitten... 2012/02/08 23:19:12
    ProudProgressive
    +1
    That the attorneys' fees in cases like this are far in excess of the court costs.
  • Smitten... ProudPr... 2012/02/09 01:03:27
  • Seonag Smitten... 2012/02/09 12:41:36 (edited)
    Seonag
    +1
    maybe you need to talk to some attorneys --- you will see that they rarely get even 50% of their fees. Court costs (filing fees), when awarded are usually in full.
  • Smitten... Seonag 2012/02/09 21:21:33
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