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Nevada Allows Google's Self-Driving Car: Super or Scary?

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Google's been working on patenting a self-driving car for a while, and now it's fully licensed to drive. In Nevada, at least. According the The Associate Press, the car received a license to drive after demonstrating its safe driving on the Las Vegas Strip. For whatever reason, the license requires that two passengers be in the car while it's on auto-pilot, doubling the risk. On the other hand, it's the perfect solution for those worried about Google's Glass project.

DMV director Bruce Breslow explained, "They're designed to avoid distracted driving. When you're on the Strip and there's a huge truck with three scantily clad women on the side, the car only sees a box." Any drawbacks? He adds, "It gets honked at more often because it’s being safe." It sounds like an amazing invention, and so far it hasn't gotten into any accidents, but does a self-driving car sound a little scary to you?

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  • Dan™: Real Change, Not Fals... 2012/05/11 01:56:46 (edited)
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    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +8
    Kinda scary, actually. I love technology, but as anyone who deals with emerging techologies on a daily basis can tell you (and I do), there are always glitches and unforseen problems and scenarios. Always. For something like navigating a high speed vehicle down a road with changing traffic, weather, and road conditions, I'm not comfortable handing the wheel over to a computer yet. Anyone who has experience with GPS navigators knows that they are frequently wrong about routes and other trip data.

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  • john Kills 2012/05/12 13:06:51
    Scary
    john Kills
    +3
    I don't trust anything electrical that has the ability to malfunction and get me killed.
  • LeroyRogers 2012/05/12 12:20:31
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    LeroyRogers
    +4
    Almost all car "accidents" are caused by the driver, either not paying attention, being drunk/drugged/, driving wreckless, etc. Take the driver out of the equation, and "accidents" will drop. Look at both Chernobyl and 3 Mile Island-the computer did it's job, but it was the human factor that caused the castrophies.
  • ManBearPig LeroyRo... 2012/05/12 17:55:18
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    +2
    and if the computer has a malfunction or a glitch in the system... you cannot blame that on the driver... only the programmer who developed the code
  • LeroyRo... ManBearPig 2012/05/21 15:09:59
    LeroyRogers
    It's most likely going to have an override, so if something goes wrong you can take control.
  • ManBearPig LeroyRo... 2012/05/22 17:57:38
    ManBearPig
    more than likely yes but even the delay between the cars glitch and your reaction time to take override can still be a cause for danger
  • LeroyRo... ManBearPig 2012/05/23 21:14:23
    LeroyRogers
    The way most people drive, I'll take the computer over humans any day. And now with 25% of "accidents" being caused by people and their phones...
  • Wulfdane 2012/05/12 12:13:01 (edited)
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    Wulfdane
    +3
    If the technology has proved to be safe and if it has some kind of safety sytem installed in case the GPS/cameras go down, I think it's great.

    This will be the future.
  • missoni 2012/05/12 09:24:42
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    missoni
    +3
    I'm sure it drives better then some old drivers...
  • Charles... missoni 2012/05/14 04:37:55
    Charles Braley
    +1
    And some YOUNG folk! :)
  • P. Sturm 2012/05/12 08:47:25
    Super
    P. Sturm
    +1
    Finally, at least something will be awake on those short, exciting, featureless 300 mile drives between major towns in this state.
  • weivin 2012/05/12 03:55:07
    Scary
    weivin
    +3
    even computer can go error. Don't rely on technologies too much.
  • Charles... weivin 2012/05/14 04:39:02
    Charles Braley
    And how many planes have crashed because of computer error lately?
  • freebirdie 2012/05/12 03:33:23
    Scary
    freebirdie
    +3
    It's man-made technology. It will break down somehow-- anywhere. Now if it was Toyota or Honda...
  • Charles... freebirdie 2012/05/14 04:44:02
    Charles Braley
    Well yeah - thats tru of ANYTHING man made! The only things that arent fallible - are God-created things! :)
  • freebirdie Charles... 2012/05/14 16:19:26
    freebirdie
    True dat! I should have said "American-made cars/technology."
    Imagine something going wrong along the way to the destination, and the computer system fails and cannot tell the blind person where they are, if it's safe to step out of the car, where to find help, ... imagine them driving through South Central LA, or...
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/05/12 03:28:56
    Scary
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Just like the puppet running this country.
    obama puppet
  • dekecds 2012/05/12 03:13:49
    Super
    dekecds
    +1
    It's super because it might pave the way for something much better!
  • baboula 2012/05/12 02:39:59
    Scary
    baboula
    +4
    With this not only will you not have to know how to drive but you can text to your heart's content!
    Why is it noone wonders about hacking?
  • Maci 2012/05/12 02:30:42 (edited)
  • JimmyIIX 2012/05/12 01:23:47 (edited)
    Super
    JimmyIIX
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    Super cool! If I had the money I'd buy one now.
  • KoolGuyL 2012/05/12 00:44:59
    Super
    KoolGuyL
    +1
    That will be the future of cars, i'm sure.
  • onadeko adetutu,caleb unive... 2012/05/11 23:18:03
    Scary
    onadeko adetutu,caleb university
    +3
    in as much as a big fan of new technologies this would have to be an exception due to the fact that there have insances when this so called technological equipment or product shut down or reboot themselves without any interferance from the individual in control and i wouldnt want to imagine when such a thing happen while driving on the high way or free way...BY ONADEKO ADETUTU,CALEB UNIVERSITY,IMOTA,LAGOS,NIGERIA.
  • ManBearPig onadeko... 2012/05/12 17:56:45
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    +3
    ive been in a normal car (run by typical computers with todays car) and while driving on the highway the computer malfunctions and shuts down... perfect example of what could happened or even worse for a self-driving car
  • Charles... ManBearPig 2012/05/14 04:48:34
    Charles Braley
    +1
    Yup - nothing more fun and exciting; than your 2006 automobile quitting on you - FOR NO APPARENT REASON!!!!!!!!!! in the middle of rush hour traffic on I-696!
  • TheNightFly 2012/05/11 22:32:03 (edited)
    Super
    TheNightFly
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    Most commercial airlines can fly themselves too- it's called autopilot- but that's more like cruise control. The technology involved in navigating a car through busy city streets is a bit more complicated but it's not nearly as scary as some people's driving.
  • LeroyRo... TheNigh... 2012/05/12 12:22:42
    LeroyRogers
    +2
    Most airliners land themselves now.
  • Charles... LeroyRo... 2012/05/14 04:51:53
    Charles Braley
    Not sure about "Most" Leroy - but a good chunk of them anyways, eh?

    Some airliners can't afford the newer, say from 2000 & up, airliners
  • joe mauro 2012/05/11 22:27:23
    Super
    joe mauro
    +1
    i wonder if this means insurance will drop or become optional? I doubt it the lobbyists are already working on that already
  • ManBearPig joe mauro 2012/05/12 17:57:47
    ManBearPig
    +2
    oh they will skyrocket... instead of charging for human performance in a car they would be charging for computer performance to little reaction sitatuions
  • Lexi 2012/05/11 22:07:48
    Super
    Lexi
    +2
    That's cool if it doesn't malfunction!
  • sjalan 2012/05/11 21:37:07
    Super
    sjalan
    +2
    And by the end of the decade every car built could have this on board. BOTH Merceded and VW have been working on this for some time.
  • wgossett99 2012/05/11 20:14:51
    Super
    wgossett99
    +2
    The technology involved is rapidly improving and the promise of fewer accidents due to human error is great. I expect this to become standard equipment by the end of the decade.
  • Mya Perry 2012/05/11 19:17:51
    Super
    Mya Perry
    +3
    wow this going to be crazy and super scary
  • CAA_coffeeaddict 2012/05/11 19:17:26
    Scary
    CAA_coffeeaddict
    +2
    Never trust a machine that can do something by itself
  • wgossett99 CAA_cof... 2012/05/11 20:16:52
    wgossett99
    +1
    You don't trust your coffee maker, alarm clock, DVR, etc.???
  • ManBearPig wgossett99 2012/05/12 17:58:41
    ManBearPig
    +1
    those are machines for simple tasks that pose minimal to impossible risk of life... we are talking about machines where the slightest glitch can kill people
  • wgossett99 ManBearPig 2012/05/14 13:14:40
    wgossett99
    Friend, you are thinking about your father's PC. The computational power of today's machines are immensely more powerful than probably the unit you and I are working with. These robots react nearly at lightspeed while the average driver take 2 seconds to react to anything. 2 seconds at 60 MPH is 176 feet.

    These cars are ALREADY safer than human-driven cars.
  • ManBearPig wgossett99 2012/05/14 20:48:53
    ManBearPig
    indeed we have the most powerful computers out there today... but remember what actually makes the computer what it is... it is the code that directs how the computer is suppose to function... bear in mind google has some of the best programmers out there today establishing the code and debugging it to near perfection but the thing is every single code out there has a glitch in there somewhere, as small as it may be... it requires the most precise combination of functions that can bring forth any glitch in any code

    while the glitches are very rare and hard to find... most people tend to find them just out of luck since it requires certain steps that normally some people would not generally stick to... apply this to a self-driving car run by a verrrrry complex code

    a glitch is bound to happen at some point or another, be it a very minor issue to something that can cause detrimental harm, and in a machine where you have no control over that can kill you, the slightest glitch can make it or break it
  • wgossett99 ManBearPig 2012/05/15 18:25:36
    wgossett99
    Yes, you're correct about a glitch. But these cars, as currently built, have manual override.
  • Pronata... wgossett99 2012/05/13 05:31:07
    Pronatalist Pronatalist
    Coffee makers can catch on fire. I saw them testing a typical plastic crap coffee maker, on TV, and they bypassed the thermostat switch, to simulate what might happen if the thermostat malfunctioned and got stuck. Which can happen to cheap switches handling high current loads that could overheat. It melted within a minute.

    However, what's really scary, is that we allow people to drive. People are so busy and distractable, and often refuse to follow the traffic rules, and many aren't courteous enough to use turn signals. I'd love to see computers take this task over. Consider all the people who can't drive. Old people with failing eyesight or inability to see well at night. People who can't judge distance, or who are prone to seizures or falling asleep.

    Remember how air bags were foisted onto us by government, and then finally, we win the right to have a switch to disable the passenger airbag? Let's use that as a guide, and as cars prove to be safe to operate in "self-drive" mode, don't forget all the usual checks-and-balances against computer malfunction. Manual over-ride. Instant auto-rebooting in case of software crash. Auto-logging of possible problem "events." Sufficient redundancies. Battery backup in case of sudden power loss to the computer.

    Self-drive should have many adv...



    Coffee makers can catch on fire. I saw them testing a typical plastic crap coffee maker, on TV, and they bypassed the thermostat switch, to simulate what might happen if the thermostat malfunctioned and got stuck. Which can happen to cheap switches handling high current loads that could overheat. It melted within a minute.

    However, what's really scary, is that we allow people to drive. People are so busy and distractable, and often refuse to follow the traffic rules, and many aren't courteous enough to use turn signals. I'd love to see computers take this task over. Consider all the people who can't drive. Old people with failing eyesight or inability to see well at night. People who can't judge distance, or who are prone to seizures or falling asleep.

    Remember how air bags were foisted onto us by government, and then finally, we win the right to have a switch to disable the passenger airbag? Let's use that as a guide, and as cars prove to be safe to operate in "self-drive" mode, don't forget all the usual checks-and-balances against computer malfunction. Manual over-ride. Instant auto-rebooting in case of software crash. Auto-logging of possible problem "events." Sufficient redundancies. Battery backup in case of sudden power loss to the computer.

    Self-drive should have many advantages, such as defense from speeding tickets and other "revenue enhancement" crap of the government. (The computer would never forget the last speed limit sign, also use the GPS map database.)

    I'd like to see self-drive cars drive much in the way that people, do, without requiring entire road systems to be redesigned, but that's a really tough challenge for programmers. Can a car's drive computer, really read and understand every road sign? Can the car's computer accurately recognize debris in the road, and safely execute a safe and sudden lane change? Can the car's computer recognize a parked car door about to open, a ball rolling out into the road, other car turn signals, unsafe or erratic drivers, spot bicycles and motorcycles and wandering toddlers and know the difference between a baby carriage or mere debris, and be wary of possible slick spots on roads or bridges, and know what to do if the car has mechanical malfunctions? And due to liability concerns, the computer must do everything BETTER and obey all the traffic rules, including policemen directing traffic.

    Should the car be clearly marked that it's self-drive? Or would that make it a target for theft? How do we keep people from freaking out, if there's no driver in the driver's seat? Or if the "driver" is asleep? As in the first episode of Knight Rider?
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