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Nevada Allows Google's Self-Driving Car: Super or Scary?

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Google's been working on patenting a self-driving car for a while, and now it's fully licensed to drive. In Nevada, at least. According the The Associate Press, the car received a license to drive after demonstrating its safe driving on the Las Vegas Strip. For whatever reason, the license requires that two passengers be in the car while it's on auto-pilot, doubling the risk. On the other hand, it's the perfect solution for those worried about Google's Glass project.

DMV director Bruce Breslow explained, "They're designed to avoid distracted driving. When you're on the Strip and there's a huge truck with three scantily clad women on the side, the car only sees a box." Any drawbacks? He adds, "It gets honked at more often because it’s being safe." It sounds like an amazing invention, and so far it hasn't gotten into any accidents, but does a self-driving car sound a little scary to you?

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  • Dan™: Real Change, Not Fals... 2012/05/11 01:56:46 (edited)
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    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
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    Kinda scary, actually. I love technology, but as anyone who deals with emerging techologies on a daily basis can tell you (and I do), there are always glitches and unforseen problems and scenarios. Always. For something like navigating a high speed vehicle down a road with changing traffic, weather, and road conditions, I'm not comfortable handing the wheel over to a computer yet. Anyone who has experience with GPS navigators knows that they are frequently wrong about routes and other trip data.

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  • prosperhappily 2012/05/10 14:52:04
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    prosperhappily
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    The sweet thing about this is that you don't need for it to drive perfectly in order to benefit. You just need it to drive as well as the average driver. Think about it, roughly half of all drivers are below average. They cause a disproportionate amount of accidents. If you can get them into self-driving cars, accidents, injuries & fatalities should go down significantly. And, once these things drive better than average they'll go down even more.

    What's more, even good drivers sometimes cause accidents. They get tired, distracted & simply can't be looking at multiple places at once. Those factors are eliminated with automated driving.

    These are going to save a lot of lives.
  • Tully prosper... 2012/05/10 16:24:25
    Tully
    +1
    Lawyers are gonna hate it!
  • prosper... Tully 2012/05/10 16:27:27
    prosperhappily
    +2
    Yeah, fewer people to sue. Oh darn.
  • Freedom... prosper... 2012/05/11 03:06:14
    Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    +1
    Exactly! You guys act like us humans are so good at driving and never ever have a wreck.
  • MLor Freedom... 2012/05/11 12:51:11
    MLor
    Well that'll change once everyone starts wearing the Google glasses behind the wheel. Hell walking around wearing them will be bad enough. Wonder how many will walk in the street while watching their computer glasses?
  • prosper... Freedom... 2012/05/11 16:09:41
    prosperhappily
    Exactly. we don't need for these systems to be perfect. If we can make them as good as the average driver and get them into the hands of sub-average drivers, we can save a lot of lives.

    I don't expect that these systems will ever become perfect. But, I expect that they'll eventually become much better than average.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/10 14:45:14
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    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +2
    It's their decision, and their roads. Let them decide whether to allow such a device or not.

    Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable with that. I like to be in command. I like to be the "skipper" of my "vessel." I don't yield that command to any machine. I'm less than comfortable being a passenger of a *human* driver, of anything smaller than a big bus, or a train, or a tram.
  • prosper... Temlako... 2012/05/10 14:54:27
    prosperhappily
    +3
    Completely understandable.

    But, stop and think about this. You're going to get old someday. At least I hope so. The day may come when you are no longer capable of driving. Wouldn't this be better than losing your independence, when the time comes?
  • Temlako... prosper... 2012/05/10 21:55:39
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Trouble is, I have to depend on someone. What happens if the server has a hiccup?

    If the world is even around by the time you describe, I'll have to apply to some kind of "paratransit service."
  • prosper... Temlako... 2012/05/10 23:11:19
    prosperhappily
    +1
    Agreed regarding the server hiccup.

    Anything mechanical or computer related is going to have it's glitches. But, as I was pointing out to someone else, I think we can get to the point where these cars perform better than most humans.

    I'm basing that on my estimate that a sizable minority of drivers absolutely suck and should really have their keys taken away. And, of course, even good drivers have their bad moments.

    I won't say that we're ever going to reach 0 fatalities on the road. But, I think we can eventually reduce them significantly.
  • Temlako... prosper... 2012/05/11 01:25:58
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    All the same, before I stepped into one of those cars, I would want manual/pedal overrides in place so that I can take control from an errant server.

    And I might want to drive to a place that the server doesn't know about. Ever think of that?

    I think you have to agree that this system is a lot more complex than an aircraft auto-pilot, with glitch-prone-ness to match.
  • prosper... Temlako... 2012/05/11 16:30:00
    prosperhappily
    +1
    The cars that they are currently testing do allow drivers to over ride the auto-navigation systems. In fact, two people are required to be in the car, one behind the wheel, in case they need to take over.

    Hopefully, that will always be an option. Like you, I sometimes like to get out in the open and just enjoy driving my car.

    I'm very pro-freedom, so I'll never tell anyone that they MUST use one of these cars & use the auto-nav at all times. At least not until the DMV says that they're incompetent and must turn in their license.

    As for glitches, of course they're going to happen. This system will NEVER be perfect. But, my guess is that it's eventually going to be better than a lot of the drivers I see on the road.

    At any rate, we do need to proceed with caution. We can't release these things to the public before they're at least at good as the average driver & we need to be careful about how many are put on the road to avoid overloading the GPS systems.
  • Tully Temlako... 2012/05/10 16:25:15
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    +1
    I like the fact ambulance chasers will go out of business!
  • Michaelene 2012/05/10 14:40:18
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    Michaelene
    +2
    This is not just scary it's an upcoming litigational mess as well. A saying from my old days as a computer programmer "The code is only as good as the idiot who wrote it" I'd hate to rely on a computer (and the program) when my familiy's life is at risk.
    Dumb idea.
  • MLor Michaelene 2012/05/11 12:52:08
    MLor
    Couldn't agree more.
  • lm1b2 2012/05/10 14:30:13
    Scary
    lm1b2
    +1
    If this "invention" kills someone,can you sue the State also?
  • prosper... lm1b2 2012/05/10 14:40:02
    prosperhappily
    +4
    For now, you'd sue Google.
  • Padding... lm1b2 2012/05/10 16:21:15
  • lm1b2 Padding... 2012/05/11 13:33:16
    lm1b2
    +1
    In this case its because you know sooner,or later this "invention" will kill,perhaps a lot of people!
  • Padding... lm1b2 2012/05/11 13:38:19
  • lm1b2 Padding... 2012/05/11 13:47:24
    lm1b2
    I do,especially when the invention is as dangerous as this one.
  • Padding... lm1b2 2012/05/11 13:58:32
  • lm1b2 Padding... 2012/05/11 14:42:45
    lm1b2
    If your saying the population has become "Sue" crazy,i agree 100%.
  • Padding... lm1b2 2012/05/11 14:55:09
  • Cordingly 2012/05/10 14:22:55
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    Cordingly
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    I for one could do with less driving, so if I can sit back and read a book on my way to work, more power to my car.
  • Lycaste skinneri 2012/05/10 14:17:19
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    Lycaste skinneri
    +1
    I wonder what the car would do if there is a hole on the middle of the road.
  • U-Dog Lycaste... 2012/05/10 15:11:40
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    +3
    I wonder how it reacts if a tractor trailer swerves head on into your lane, etc, etc?
  • Lycaste... U-Dog 2012/05/10 16:16:05
    Lycaste skinneri
    +2
    I know right? What if the road is broken or something?
  • prosper... U-Dog 2012/05/10 16:38:51
    prosperhappily
    +1
    it'll probably react faster than most people would.

    Make no mistake. It's not going to make things perfect. There will still be things that happen too quickly for it to respond. There will still be situations in which there are no good options. It'll still slip on ice.

    Once the kinks are worked out, you'll be safer with it than you are today.
  • U-Dog prosper... 2012/05/10 22:23:52
    U-Dog
    I am sure you are right, these things will probably be at least 10 times safer than human controlled cars but, just as flying is statistically much safer, it doesn't necessarily follow that people will not have irrational fears.
  • prosper... U-Dog 2012/05/10 23:13:33
    prosperhappily
    Of course not, especially while they're new. It's completely normal.

    I'm just saying don't get caught up in those fears and close your mind to something that could, potentially, make driving much safer.
  • U-Dog prosper... 2012/05/10 23:43:53
    U-Dog
    I hope the system works and becomes practical and I am not one to get caught up in irrational fears personally but a lot of the public is certainly prone to doing so. The only political conflict I see coming is that, if they work, the government will most certainly try to force these vehicles on the public at some point versus leaving it to the free market and individual choices.
  • prosper... U-Dog 2012/05/11 16:38:32
    prosperhappily
    +1
    I agree with one exception.

    If someone has a whole lot of tickets and/or accidents the DMV might tell them to either get one of these or give up the keys. Other than that, I wouldn't want the state to force people into this.

    Funny thing is, people will get all worked up about this when these vehicles come out. And, 30 years from now, kids will think that computers have always driven cars.
  • MLor prosper... 2012/05/11 12:56:52
    MLor
    Sounds like it would take the fun out of driving. Sit back and let the computer run your life...no thanks!
  • prosper... MLor 2012/05/11 16:49:16
    prosperhappily
    +1
    I'd never tell you that you have to buy one of these. No one should interfere with your right to drive as long as your competent enough to keep your license.

    As for me, I enjoy driving on the open road. So, I'd turn off the auto-nav under those circumstances.

    I don't like fighting the morons I see on the city streets in Las Vegas tho'. I'd say 10-15% of the drivers I see here are incompetent. I'd rather let the computer deal with them.
  • MLor U-Dog 2012/05/11 13:01:10 (edited)
    MLor
    Auto pilot in the sky is a little different than on the #101 in L.A, or rush hour in any major city. Don't think I want to be that much out of control with a 2000lb lethal weapon.
  • ronbo 2012/05/10 14:15:24
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    ronbo
    +1
    You can go ahead and fall asleep at the wheel and still get to your destination safely. Cool.

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