Neo-Nazi Festival in Australia: Should Government Ban?

Let them have it so everyone can know who they are.

People have the right to be inbred and uneducated...and throw parties..

I know this topic is older, but I simply cannot believe that 161 people said "no". Nazis should be erased from the face of the earth, not to have concerts and some happy pick nicks. They simply dont deserve to exist with their sick and pathological ideology that brought so much misery and disaster to this world not so long ago! people, you should remember where this world was and how this world looked like more than 60 years ago.

There is NO ROOM in this world for this kinda bashing . ALL people are different .. That's what makes us DIFFERENT from ANIMALS . So the sooner we stop condoning ANIMAL Behaviors the better!!!!!!!

My "yes" for a ban (which obviously won't count, at this point) is based on the country's overall premise of right and wrong. If the vast majority of a country's population finds a group's dogma extreme and distasteful, then a public display on such a large level might be better kept out of view. There would be other ways, or other locations, that wouldn't be as public and prone to incite contention from non-participants or opponents to their theme.

Banning their festival would have the same effect as joining their group.. it gives them more power and exposure... Let them have it, ignore it, and let them be..

I believe like u do but I'm in America over there their land is still pockmarked with their murdered, and now the Islamic radicals are pushing the Europeans around Nazis are saying they have the answer we should get ready again

I should march in the parade with them while dressed as a Jew just to mess with them xD

Let them be counted and make fools of themselves and to show what happens when people go to far right of the political spectrum.

the nazis are horrible

There's enough Hatred in the world!

If they don't ban Commies, they shouldn't ban Nazis. Messenger apparently doesn't believe in freedom of speech, the a$$hole.

«I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it» Evelyn Beatrice Hall... (Wrongly attributed to Voltaire btw...)

And besides, it's a chance to see what an actual übermoron looks like no? Better to let them come in the open so we can identify them easily than to not know who they are...

Ok,thats a point,but if you threw a party at your place and they rang your bell and wanted to join in,would you let them in?.I guess not...so you would "Ban"them on ethical grounds?.And what about your party in public ,say on the beach?.Would you mind them sitting amongst your guests talking crap and shouting"Sieg Heil"every so often?.My point is one rule goes for all and as a Tax payer,public places are also our"home",our home country,our home
town and just as we would not want"trouble makers"at our place and would call the cops if they gate crashed,why not"Call the Cops"when they Gate crash in Public so as to speak?.The thing with Neo Nazis is that they are anti democracy and exploit democracy to gain influence to destroy it.Same with the Commies.However I do not support banning them in public,but only because I happen to know they will do more harm than good for themselves when they put on their show!!.

Of course if they were not invited on my PRIVATE property (and believe me they never would be! lol ) I'd call the cops ASAP to throw them out...

If we're on a private beach, the same... On a public beach it could get ugly if we had a bit much to drink, so I would leave and let them be moronic a-holes by themselves...

Public places are just that "public"... They too, even as total human failures, do pay their taxes so they too "own" the public places and can call them "home town" as much as us...There's no going around that unfortunately...

I do not think there is a limit to free speech, because if there is, then it is not really free speech... As I said, I'd rather have a stupid and lame excuse for a human being prove itself by opening his mouth or showing ludicrous symbols, then have to worry about him trying to prove it otherwise... ;o)

It ain't easy of course... But as B. Franklin said : Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety and will lose both in the end...

As a Citizen in society you will ignore them allowing them free speech to manipulate, but privately as a host in your home refuse that,yet they are always the same with the same intent to destroy democracy,your society and your home in that.

Those that intend to destroy the pillars of Free Speech and Liberty holding the roof up over Democracy,nest like parasites in public and make you therefore their host whether you are at home or not.Therefore protecting them in public could destroy your home privately as history not least has proven.A threat to democracy is also threatening you privately as your home is found inside democracy and not outside of it.

There are limitations to free speech of course,but the Patriot Act enhanced them at the cost of liberty under the guise to protect our freedom.Now it is not what we have done,but what an invisible committee and PC program decides what we might do.And there are those being punished because of this since years without even being brought to trial.

We may say what we like,but we also have to accept the consequences.And it is a just thing to prevent those who proclaim and plan to harm others before they actually do it.Besides,the laws of Libel and Slander for example,are also not antidemocratic, but serve to protect the good name.

My heart says yes, but i know its free speech. i never liked Nazis

Free speech has its limits and especially must be scrutinized when its used to promote the end of free speech as with the Nazis and radical left.

They are looking to strengthen their own torn and pathological personal identities.Feeling inferior they try to feel superior at the expense of others.

indeed, damn bro you smart, haha i need to learn big words, im not trying to sound like a dick btw. honestly if i saw a person dressed up as a nazi, and supporting them, i would definitely kick their ass on the spot.

Well that might knock some sense into them or the opposite..knock more out!.LOL.

haha yes! :D care to join, mate?

The big mouth and leader of a gang of thugs(about 9 individuals)once picked on a Guy I was talking to inside the local Youth club.We carried on talking and ignored the jerk until the"leader"challenged the guy to step outside,,where the other 8 thugs were waiting.Two minutes later the leader and big mouth came back in unconscious carried in by his fellow thugs crying out for the paramedics!.LOL.The guy I had been talking too went outside and when insulted went up to the jerk and hit him once but"properly"and the leader of those thugs collapsed.The others froze!.The unconscious guy survived and I saw him in town later often,no longer with his other thugs,no longer a leader and a very quiet man....missing most of his front teeth which didnt do much for his impression on the gals either!.LMAO.The guy I had been talking to was just 17 years old but was a chucker out at some night club in
town.No,I do not support violence at all,but sometimes for some
people getting the worst side of it does have positive
effects...sometimes!.Personally I walk away.

ahhhh indeed, mate. sometimes violence isn't the answer, but then look at WW2, violence stopped the nazi regime down to the last man. i guess it depends on when to use violence, mate :p

True.

indeed mate

In the US, they would be protected to have this crazy thing, the limits you site are not constitutionally valid, but bringing up the constitution always gets me called a traiter or crazy liberal or something. lol

HOWEVERr, fortunately, for the world, they do not have the same laws, all of the freedoms we have over here!

Historically, being forced to go underground has not really stopped anything or something as big as this anyway.

Bund meetings, etc were allowed to go on and died out on their own, after a few years.
On the other hand the hatred never gets played out over there does it?

I have to read more opinions, I cannot decide on this, I'm too used to thinking in terms of freedoms.

Amongst the public,when others use their freedom to threaten and endanger the lives and security of others,the freedom of those perpetrator is to be restricted or ends depending and accordingly.The reasons of having laws of Libel and slander are also obvious.And in society-the security and freedom of the nation as a whole comes first above the freedom and security of the individual.Law is as much as to promote and protect our freedoms as it is to prevent the misuse.

Slander??
You believe they will be a threat to the security of their nation? Trying to recruit and being together celebrating being idiots, is not a national security issue.
I know why what you are saying is so faulty for the US, but I do not know their laws.

Try doing some Social Science history revision and in particular the Third Reich.

As soon as you take psych, world history, the history of American Bunds, maybe look into why we have the free speech thing and why it has not done us in and also look into the fact that secrecy, being underground with facts can keep terrible people and groups in power and lead to war.
The Third Reich kept a lot hidden.
You are very arrogant, but maybe too narrow. There are more things going on here then dick-heads wanting to recruit, they are also exposing what garbage they are, letting people know they are around, etc. letting them be open does not mean 180?-1945 Germany.
Australiaians are not Germans.

Americans,Germans,Australians etc etc are all the same in nature and being,which obviously will rub against your xenophobic attributes judging by your comment..."Australians are not Germans..".

The Freedom of movement,expression and speech have their restrictions in America just like amongst all the other Industrial nations.The limits of Free speech bow to the protection and security of other individuals and the national security.

i don´t like them..but what are they thinking??

I never really liked the nazi... I just hate them

If muslims there can preach hate why cant Neos have a music festival? Even though I do not care for both.

Fanatics preach hate, not Muslims. No religion teaches or encourages terrorism, I don't think so anyway.
Churches do, governments do, Moses didn't, Christ didn't, Mohammad (or whoever they follow) didn't.
So don't be hatin' lol

i meant to vote no even thou they should be banned but if they are so should any religion since their basically the same thing....