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MUSLIMS AND THE GOVERNMENT DENY FREEDOM OF SPEECH BY STONING CHRISTIANS HERE IN THE U.S.A.?

Old Salt 2012/06/27 15:18:24
CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
THESE CHRISTIANS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!
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We thought it could NEVER happen in
America, but Deerborn, Michigan Police denied Christians the rights of “Free
Speech” as they try to hand out religious pamphlets to others at an Arab
festival this past week. Watch the
attached video. You will find statement after statement of Police telling
Christian demonstrators the “right of free speech” is not allowed in Deerborn, for
it forces “others” to become violent! Although Deerborn Police stated time and
time again that they did not have the manpower to protect Christians by having
just two police by them to secure their “rights,” more than 10 of them were
available to pull Christians over on a simple traffic stop once they cleared
the Muslim festival! Watch the tape!




Is this how we want to see our Govt
act? Has Govt ever gone against OWS
demonstrations because they were speaking words that might “hurt someone’s
feelings?” Are Muslims now protected
against hearing someone’s opinions that differ from them! Is this Sharia Law and NOT the law of the
U.S. Constitution in our 1st amendment rights? What say you?



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  • Cindy64~AFCL 2012/06/27 16:08:49 (edited)
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    Cindy64~AFCL
    +25
    Yes this has been happening there in Dearborn MI. I have family who live in MI. and they say this happens a lot ! Dearborn MI. has a lot of Muslims living there and they want to RULE everything like the Muslims want to do !! And they seem to be ruling the Police !! They are afraid of the Muslims maybe?? The thing is Islam is not peaceful and it is all Sharia Law full of hate and hate for America and in anything we believe in!! If people do NOT stand up for their rights believe .....the MUSLIMS will take over ...look at history !! Seems to me they have taken over Dearborn, MI. already ?? !!!!! Those Christians had every RIGHT to pass their pamphlets out !! It was their 1st amendment rights ..... The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

    Yes this has been happening there in Dearborn MI. I have family who live in MI. and they say this happens a lot ! Dearborn MI. has a lot of Muslims living there and they want to RULE everything like the Muslims want to do !! And they seem to be ruling the Police !! They are afraid of the Muslims maybe?? The thing is Islam is not peaceful and it is all Sharia Law full of hate and hate for America and in anything we believe in!! If people do NOT stand up for their rights believe .....the MUSLIMS will take over ...look at history !! Seems to me they have taken over Dearborn, MI. already ?? !!!!! Those Christians had every RIGHT to pass their pamphlets out !! It was their 1st amendment rights ..... The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

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  • Old Salt ALofRI 2012/06/28 19:26:42
    Old Salt
    +3
    I don't disagree with your "good common sense" statements, for there can be no doubt that this Christian group that was there was only to incite and be critical! Perhaps it would help you to understand that ALL of this started 5 or 6 years ago when "peaceful" Christians tried to simply hand out John 3:16 pamphlets and were also turned away! Thus, a more "radical" group comes each and every year!

    Having said that, the REAL question remains..... Did the actions of the police give muslims a victory by denying people their Freedom of Speech rights under the Constitution?

    Were not such "rights" given to OWS people in New York City, causing loss of income and even two businesses to go bankrupt?

    Thanks for your thoughts! :)
  • David ALofRI 2012/07/04 13:49:57
    David
    Unfortuantely these people give Christians a bad name!
  • Old Salt David 2012/07/04 16:57:14
    Old Salt
    +1
    Again.... this is NOT a religious issue but rather a "FREEDOM" one! You're statement of giving "Christians a bad name," tells me you're very, very slow on matters of reading!
  • TheTailor 2012/06/28 15:30:41
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    TheTailor
    +1
    Of course Christians have freedom of speech, what they aren't taking into account is that Dearborn is the Islamic terror training post in the US, so of course they aren't going to be welcome there.
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/06/30 03:02:50
    c.ruth93
    +1
    Oh Mr. Tailor are you being racist, remember blessed are the persecuted.
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/06/30 03:09:18
    TheTailor
    I'm not a racist, have you stopped beating your wife?
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/06/30 03:15:50
    c.ruth93
    +1
    Unmarried mister. Must not have seen that in my profile, when you were looking at my age.
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/06/30 05:01:30
    TheTailor
    So she left you after the beatings?
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/06/30 05:37:51
    c.ruth93
    +1
    So sad, your jokes aren't even slightly funny. Hey I learned a little something in psychology the other day. When people joke about things like this, they usually are projecting either obsessions or repressed feelings. Do you beat the wife? I mean it wouldn't come to me as a surprise. Or maybe the wife beats you?

    Anyways look at your statement and tell me how that was not anywhere near racist?
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/06/30 17:27:34 (edited)
    TheTailor
    +2
    The point was, you moron, that terming others "racist" blindly is an undue slur, like throwing a rock through a window, the glass can't be unbroken. How on Earth do you deduce racism from an obvious fact, have you been to Dearborn? I have, and have family in that area, Sharia is growing.
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/07/01 14:52:15
    c.ruth93
    +2
    Stating that the Dearborn area is an Islamic Terrorist center is racist. Saying it's being run under Sharia law would not be racist. Not all Muslims/Islamic peoples are terrorists. Not a very good generalization to be put in.
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/07/01 15:48:34
    TheTailor
    +2
    No it's not, it's reality, and sharia is being allowed over US law by local judges. I never suggested "all" Muslims were terrorists, you made that up.
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/07/01 23:13:45
    c.ruth93
    +1
    Are you in 5th grade....no no that's not what I said...I said I said...You made a generalization implicating a race being something that it normally isn't. Terrorists are the radicals in the Islamic faith. If you had any knowledge of the Quran and Sharia law you would know that in most cases you are not allowed to kill anything, not even a bug. All life is sacred.
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/07/01 23:28:04
    TheTailor
    +1
    That's asinine, I made no generalization about Muslims, I said specifically "... Dearborn is the Islamic terror training post in the US ...", because I've been there and seen raging hatred of America and Americans. It's not hard to see, IF you have ever been there, you obviously haven't. Tell the families of those beheaded, raped, genitally mutilated, murdered by honor killing and those beaten and maimed how peaceful Islam is, you waste your time telling me.
  • c.ruth93 TheTailor 2012/07/02 14:18:27
    c.ruth93
    +1
    Well have fun being a hateful little bastard. Since all you see is red you're gonna charge. I'm not saying all of Islam is peaceful, but a friend of my fathers, a Muslim Engineer, studied the Quran. Not only does it say all life is sacred, but to take life in the name of their god is also forbidden. He's a good man and hates to see Islam perverted in such a way.
  • TheTailor c.ruth93 2012/07/02 20:46:03
    TheTailor
    I don't waste my time with hate, I take a realistic and objective view, AGAIN, you haven't been there, I have. If it makes you feel any better, my view is that terrorists are not Muslims at all, no religion on Earth murders or condones murder.

    That doesn't change what's going on in Dearborn.
  • jean c.ruth93 2012/07/05 02:54:05
    jean
    +1
    The holiest book of Islam (61% of which is about non-Muslims) draws the sharpest of distinctions between Muslims (the best of people, 3:110) and non-believers (the worst of creatures, 98:6). Praise is lavished on the former while the latter is condemned with scorching generalization. Far from teaching universal love, the Quran incessantly preaches the inferiority of non-Muslims, even comparing them to vile animals and gloating over Allah's hatred of them and his dark plans for their eternal torture.
  • jean c.ruth93 2012/07/05 02:55:02
    jean
    +1
    Question:
    Are Muslims allowed to make friends with Christians, Jews or other non-Muslims?

    Summary Answer:
    Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend them to be taken in as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an plainly commands believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

    The Qur'an:
    Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

    Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

    Qur'an (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means...






























    Question:
    Are Muslims allowed to make friends with Christians, Jews or other non-Muslims?

    Summary Answer:
    Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs. It would make no sense for Muhammad to then recommend them to be taken in as friends by Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an plainly commands believers not to take unbelievers as friends.

    The Qur'an:
    Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

    Qur'an (5:80) - "You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide." Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

    Qur'an (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..." This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly."

    Qur'an (3:118) - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand." This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them.

    Qur'an (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers" Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them").

    Qur'an (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

    Qur'an (3:85) - "And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers."

    Qur'an (3:10) - "(As for) those who disbelieve, surely neither their wealth nor their children shall avail them in the least against Allah, and these it is who are the fuel of the fire." Those who do not believe in Muhammad are but fuel for the fire of Hell (also 66:6, 2:24. 21:98).

    Qur'an (7:44) - "The Companions of the Garden will call out to the Companions of the Fire: "We have indeed found the promises of our Lord to us true: Have you also found Your Lord's promises true?" They shall say, "Yes"; but a crier shall proclaim between them: "The curse of Allah is on the wrong-doers" Muslims in heaven will amuse themselves by looking down on non-Muslims in Hell and mocking them while they are being tortured (see 22:19-22.

    Qur'an (1:5-7) - "Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray" This is a prayer that Muslims are supposed to repeat each day. "Those who earn Thine anger" specifically refers to Jews and "those who go astray" refers to Christians (see Bukhari (12:749)).




    From the Hadith:

    Muslim (1:417) - Taken to mean that one's own relatives should not be taken as friends if they are not Muslim.

    Abu Dawud (41:4815) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man follows the religion of his friend; so each one should consider whom he makes his friend."

    Abu Dawud (41:4832) - The Messenger of Allah [said] "Do not keep company with anyone but a believer and do not let anyone eat your food but one who is pious."

    Bukhari (59:572) - "O you who believe! Take not my enemies And your enemies as friends offering them (Your) love even though they have disbelieved in that Truth (i.e. Allah, Prophet Muhammad and this Quran) which has come to you."

    Ishaq 262 - "Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse"

    Ishaq 252 - The story of a young man who converts to Islam after hearing Muhammad. He then tells his own father that he can no longer have anything to do with him because, "I have become a Muslim and follow the religion of Muhammad." (To maintain a relationship with his son, the father "converts" as well). This is an important passage because it establishes that the principle of shunning is based merely on the status of non-Muslims as unbelievers, not on their relations toward Muslims. In this case, the father desperately loved his son and meant him no harm.
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  • jean c.ruth93 2012/07/05 02:52:44
    jean
    +1
    No it is being truthful.
  • jean TheTailor 2012/07/05 02:52:32
    jean
    +1
    They don't want to acknowledge the problems in Michigan.
  • TheTailor jean 2012/07/05 05:00:08
    TheTailor
    +2
    Agreed, pathetic isn't it ...
  • Old Salt c.ruth93 2012/07/04 04:22:52
    Old Salt
    +1
    Tell that to the 1,000's of Christians who are being beheaded by muslims throughout the world.... JUST because they are Christians! :(
  • Luke 2012/06/28 14:57:31
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    Luke
    +4
    Like it happened in Europe it's starting here....go look... see how they are being overun...only place that has the balls to counter is Austraila.....
  • Old Salt Luke 2012/06/28 19:27:39
    Old Salt
    +3
    And the people of those countries are really getting fed up with it too!
  • will 2012/06/28 14:26:00
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    will
    +4
    i kill you

    should be i stone you
  • Dan™: Real Change, Not Fals... 2012/06/28 14:06:44
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +8
    I watched this video yesterday. I don't know which was more disturbing: the angry, violent, vulgar, intolerant stone-throwing muslims in the video; or the cowardly attitude and total negligence of the police department on display in the video.
  • Old Salt Dan™: R... 2012/06/28 19:29:35
    Old Salt
    +3
    You and I are in agreement! Not that I support the angry words coming from the more "radical" Christian group..... but hey, they sure allowed OWS people to have their "rights" for months at a time, yes? :)
  • DefendnProtect 2012/06/28 13:50:39
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    DefendnProtect
  • just some random guy 2012/06/28 13:05:04
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    just some random guy
    +2
    I think handing out Christian pamphlets at an Arab festival is kinda rude, but they should have the right. I would also feel the same if the roles were reversed
  • Dan™: R... just so... 2012/06/28 14:11:00
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +6
    They actually weren't passing out pamphlets, and they weren't preaching either. What they were doing was holding signs and wearing T-shirts with religious messages. Now I think it was a pointless and misguided decision for these Christians to even be there in the first place, but nobody deserves to be attacked with rocks and bottles just for holding signs.
  • just so... Dan™: R... 2012/06/28 14:15:39 (edited)
    just some random guy
    +3
    I agree. like i said, kinda rude, but it certainly didn't warrant an attack of any sort.
  • Old Salt just so... 2012/06/28 19:45:38
    Old Salt
    +3
    Just thought I might give you and Dan a bit of a background on this event, for this is NOT the first time it occurred!

    5 or 6 Years ago, peaceful and rather committed Christians tried to pass out pamphlets of John 3:16 to people coming from the festival, just outside the gates, on PUBLIC PROPERTY! Which the Festival itself is also on tax supported public property for that matter! Back then, muslims did indeed petition and the City of Deerborn agreed to move those people 5 blocks away from the festival site! When several members got within that limit, they were arrested!

    That made pretty big news because they were found Not Guilty in a following lawsuit! Thus each year this has become more and more of a "radical Christian" event with more emphasis on screaming the anger issue than passing out the Christian, Plan of Salvation!

    Granted, neither nor I and Im sure MOST people would not participate! However, the far BIGGER picture here is.... Is the Freedom of Speech issue denied for those who differ in religious thought? Must one be muslim in order to attend a festival on Public Property?

    Second thought.... IF the Christians are violating law, just WHY are OWS people allowed to take over City parks for 3 months at a time on Tax Payer expense? :)
  • BigFig#9 Old Salt 2012/06/28 20:21:22
    BigFig#9
    +1
    I wasn't there and cannot comment... Where I have been with 'peaceful' Christian protesters is on two occasions by chance. In both cases these protesters presented themselves later in the public forum as respectfully exercising their freedom of assembly and indeed provided (edited) video tape supporting that claim. In the first event at an anti abortion event they spat at, cried f-ing whores and murderer at all who tried to enter and blocked parking access. The behavior was highly incendiary. (I was simply trying to visit an office in the same building). In the second case I saw a grieving military family with hearse have to drive by Fred Phelp's folks... In that particular case putting myself in the family, I would have been HIGHLY tempted to stop the limo, get out and try to kick some butt, but of course I would be wrong. If free speech is exercised in an actual attempt to make a point and raise awareness, I guess I get it. The primary goal of many of these protesters is to be 'in the face' of others and then generate feigned outrage at the predictable response.
  • Old Salt Dan™: R... 2012/06/28 19:31:42
    Old Salt
    +2
    I will comment to the both of you through my reply to "just so!" :)
  • TheTailor just so... 2012/06/28 15:42:37 (edited)
    TheTailor
    +3
    It's not rude, they can offer anything like anyone else. The person being asked to take their literature can simply and politely say, "No thank you", but that's not the insane Islamic way, their answer is always violence and incivility.
  • Old Salt TheTailor 2012/06/28 19:47:21
    Old Salt
    +1
    And in this case, it reminded me of the Parents of little children when they agreed to strape C-4 explosives to them so they could blow little Jewish kids all to bits!

    For indeed muslim dad's hide behind their little children! :(
  • TheTailor Old Salt 2012/06/28 21:07:25
    TheTailor
    +2
    Yep, sickening cowards.
  • bluelady 2012/06/28 12:19:49
    CHRISTIANS, LIKE MUSLIMS, STILL MUST HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    bluelady
    +3
    welcome to the Obamanation
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/06/28 12:18:25
    Undecided
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +4
    Obama & Holder are pleased. Muslims like other radicals will use our Constitution against us,-until we are destroyed. America's inherent weakness over the last 50 years has been allowing immigrants (legal & illegal) to come here to take up residence while they don't subscribe to our culture and customs. They are here to make a buck and to undermine our culture to change (Obama) us into something else (religious and or radical politically). This naive policy is weakening America and will be our demise. There is no 'melting pot' any longer.
    Both of these groups by our laws are allowed free speech. I certainly don't approve of the muslim culture here in America,-however neither do I approve of these "christians" as I cannot find any biblical example of "christians" confronting others, carrying protest signs and looking for trouble. Biblical examples are of having a ready answer for those that come to you and winning over others by your actions not your mouth.
  • Old Salt Flash,a... 2012/06/28 19:48:53
    Old Salt
    Agree! But please also look at the "history" of this event I posted above to others! :)

    Thanks for taking the time to post yours! :) OS

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