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MURDER ~ ARE SEMI-AUTOMATICS REALLY THE BIGGEST THREAT?

BornToBeWild 2013/01/08 04:43:53
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What Tool Is A Murderers Preference?
What Tool Is A Serial Killers Preference?
WHY PUBLICLY EXPOSE ARMED CITIZENS?
WHERE SHOULD THE BLAME FOR MURDER TRULY BE DIRECTED?
Which is worse...Serial killers, Mass murders, Murders, or the tools and methods they use to kill?

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  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2013/03/20 22:41:32 (edited)
    NO
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    The Obama regime is. Gun grabbing, baby killing, Constitution shredding, tax loving, drone flying muthafuggers.
  • BornToB... Aqua Su... 2013/03/25 03:41:42
    BornToBeWild
    +1
    AMEN TO THAT
  • Red Branch 2013/01/12 05:54:11
    NO
    Red Branch
    +2
    The govt nanny state is the biggest threat.
  • john richardson 2013/01/12 04:18:53 (edited)
    NO
    john richardson
    +2
    The problem is the will to murder. How many kids in a classroom could he take out with a 5 gallon bucket with gas and a match? Or do we ban sparklers because you can make a bomb from them? And they will be a new black market up from Mexico and our gangs and the criminals still will be armed and I'm betting their big plan will be make sure the borderpatrol will stop them, it worked good with drugs didn't it?
  • Tennessean 2013/01/11 20:44:48
    NO
    Tennessean
    +2
    It would appear that a government out of contol is the real threat.

    It is not the job of the government, not was it created to control our lives, but to provide us a place where we could succeed or fail based upon our own personal qualifications and efforts without outside interference, and that includes interference from the government itself.

    Life is like a sports game, or the stock market, there are winners and losers, because everyone can not win, some will win and some will loose.

    Our government was created to protect our individual freedoms, nothing more or nothing less.

    Anytime the government attempts to take away personal freedoms under the pretext of protecting us from ourselves, that is tyranny.

    Everyone should be able to recognize the fact that every time the government attempts to take over any phase of our lives, it fails miserably.

    The government has a terrible track record of running programs.

    They have had over two hundred years to get running the post office right, but today the post office is in serious trouble and going bankrupt.

    The government has had over seventy five years to get Social Security right, but today it is a loosing proposition.

    Government run health care is failing because they are also going bankrupt.

    Since the government has tak...























    It would appear that a government out of contol is the real threat.

    It is not the job of the government, not was it created to control our lives, but to provide us a place where we could succeed or fail based upon our own personal qualifications and efforts without outside interference, and that includes interference from the government itself.

    Life is like a sports game, or the stock market, there are winners and losers, because everyone can not win, some will win and some will loose.

    Our government was created to protect our individual freedoms, nothing more or nothing less.

    Anytime the government attempts to take away personal freedoms under the pretext of protecting us from ourselves, that is tyranny.

    Everyone should be able to recognize the fact that every time the government attempts to take over any phase of our lives, it fails miserably.

    The government has a terrible track record of running programs.

    They have had over two hundred years to get running the post office right, but today the post office is in serious trouble and going bankrupt.

    The government has had over seventy five years to get Social Security right, but today it is a loosing proposition.

    Government run health care is failing because they are also going bankrupt.

    Since the government has taken over education, we have fallen from one of the best education systems in the world, to where even some third world countries have a better education system that we do.

    Since our government started its war on poverty, it has spent billions of dollars, and there are more people living below the poverty level that ever before.

    Since our government started its war on drugs, it has spent billions of dollars with drugs more available today than when the war on drugs began.

    I fail to understand why everyone can not see that bigger government only means bigger failure.

    Some today wrongly question if the Founders knew what they were doing when they, through the Constitution, guaranteed us the rights they did, such as the following:

    The right to free speech, freedom of religion, and that was freedom of religion, not freedom from religion, and to peacefully assemble.

    The right to keep and bear arms.

    The right to be secure in our persons, papers, homes, and effects from unreasonable searches and seizures,.

    The right not to be required to give evidence against ourselves.

    The right to fair and speedy trial by a jury of our pears, the right not to be subject to cruel or unusual punishment, the right not to be deprived of our life, liberty, property, or person without due process.

    That the federal government only had the rights delegated them by the Constitution, and that all other rights belonged to the states, or the people themselves.

    That just because a right was not included in the Constitution did not deny that right to the people.

    These rights were included in our law of the land, the Constitution, because these were some of the things that the nation they had just defeated, Britain, had refused them, and they were making sure that the new government they were creating could never deny the citizens these same rights.
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  • The Electrician 2013/01/09 17:39:40
    OTHER
    The Electrician
    +2
    If you're talking about guns in general, NO. When you're talking about semi automatic "assault style weapons" YES !
  • beavith1 The Ele... 2013/01/11 21:25:30
    beavith1
    +2
    based on what, exactly?

    you're being sold a bill of goods. don't repeat what you're told. do your own research.
  • The Ele... beavith1 2013/01/11 21:53:10
    The Electrician
    I own guns and have for over fifty years, Assault Style Weapons are not the average sporting gun. No research necessary.
  • beavith1 The Ele... 2013/01/12 03:50:38
    beavith1
    +2
    what does its 'style' have to do with anything?

    does the grip really make that much difference? does a movable stock make any difference than on a fixed wooden, say, Remington, stock?

    that's nothing but gun grabber differentiation.

    if you buy that baloney, and you've had guns all this time, i wonder if you just do what people tell you to do...
  • The Ele... beavith1 2013/01/13 08:51:28
    The Electrician
    The appeal of the assault weapon is that it it is the ultimate hand held killing machine. It's not a fine made Hunting rifle or a Trap gun. I have collectibles and even antiques, I don't need that type or style of weapon to show who I am.
  • beavith1 The Ele... 2013/01/19 05:41:53
    beavith1
    +1
    who said anything about 'showing who you are?'

    is that what you have weapons for?
  • The Ele... beavith1 2013/01/19 14:13:26
    The Electrician
    I don't, but there are the nut cases that believe that owning an AR gives them advantage over other people. The "my gun is bigger and better than your gun" mentality. I own guns, why would I need an assault weapon ?
  • beavith1 The Ele... 2013/01/21 21:08:03
    beavith1
    +1
    why would you 'need' ANY weapon?

    that's the real question the liberals are asking.

    they are staking out the limits of the argument by singling out the nebulously labelled 'assault weapon' which turns out to be whatever they tell you it is.

    i default to the second amendment and that ends their argument, no matter how 'reasonable' they are seeming to be.
  • The Ele... beavith1 2013/01/22 00:33:28
    The Electrician
    Guns in this country are two fold, Hunting and Sport (Rifles and Shotguns) or Personal Protection (handguns)
  • beavith1 The Ele... 2013/02/13 05:43:59
    beavith1
    +2
    ok.

    so what?
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/13 15:47:10
    Tennessean
    Since when was the second amendment included in our constitution to protect our sporting use of firearms?
  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/01/15 14:42:08
    The Electrician
    It wasn't, the 2ND was pertaining to the security of a "free state" maintained by a "well regulated" armed Militia, doesn't say anything about Zeke and Bubba owning AR's.
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/15 16:12:21
    Tennessean
    +1
    The second amendment states, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

    Just incase you did not know who the militia was, here is the official defination by the US government.

    10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

    (a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b)The classes of the militia are—
    (1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

    (2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    When asked what the Militia was, George Mason, one of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution, said, "Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people, except for a few public officers."

    Not to mention that the United States Supreme Court has already rulled that the second amendment did not grant us the right to keep and bear arms, just rerstated an exis...

























    The second amendment states, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

    Just incase you did not know who the militia was, here is the official defination by the US government.

    10 USC § 311 - Militia: composition and classes

    (a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

    (b)The classes of the militia are—
    (1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

    (2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

    When asked what the Militia was, George Mason, one of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution, said, "Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people, except for a few public officers."

    Not to mention that the United States Supreme Court has already rulled that the second amendment did not grant us the right to keep and bear arms, just rerstated an existing right we already held and that right is not dependent upon the second amendment.

    The SCOTUS also rulled that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right not a collective one.

    If you are interested in further information as to why the second amendment was included in the Constitution, you only have to read what the Founders had to say about private ownership of firearms.

    "The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them."
    Zachariah Johnson
    Elliot's Debates, vol. 3 "The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution."

    "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …" Samuel Adams

    "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
    Richard Henry Lee

    "The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun." Patrick Henry

    "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
    Thomas Jefferson

    "The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." Alexander Hamilton The Federalist Papers at 184-8

    I could go on and on with quotes from the Founding fathers about private firearm ownership, but I believe these make my point that they intended for individual ownership of firearms.

    Even the leaders of the Democrat party used to know why the citizens were guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms.

    "Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against tyranny." Hubert Humphrey
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  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/01/19 14:17:56
    The Electrician
    It was put into the Constitution to give the MILITIA the right to defend the "free states." NO one is trying to take away you hunting or sporting gun.
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/20 15:51:16
    Tennessean
    +1
    The second amendment is not just for hunting or sporting purposes, but to allow the citizens to be armed to protect against an arbitary government.
  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/01/20 15:54:12
    The Electrician
    You're living in a fantasy world.
  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/02/13 10:30:10
    The Electrician
    Other than keeping hand guns for personal protection, it the only other reason to keep guns.
  • BornToB... The Ele... 2013/01/13 06:34:51 (edited)
    BornToBeWild
    +1
    411...I own numerous semi automatic hand guns with 12 to 15 mags, the bill attacks guns with over 10 mags and doesn't exactly specify assault rifles but does on the count of bullets in mags! beavith1 is right, you need to do more research on what the Obama Administration is really after!
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/01/15 14:46:32
    The Electrician
    My clips hold 6 and I put one in the chamber, that's 7, under the "new" rules, that should be all that I need. Give me a logical explaination why I would need more, are you going to a gun fight at the OK corral ?
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/15 16:16:04
    Tennessean
    Many firearms have clips that hold more that 6 rounds, and the firearm a person chooses to own should have nothing to do with how many rounds the clip holds, that should be a personal choice..
  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/01/16 01:58:10
    The Electrician
    Well mine don't, so I don't give a rats ass about anyone else, I'm complying with a common sense rule that hasn't been written into Law yet. Plain and simple.
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/16 02:54:04
    Tennessean
    Just because yours doesn't is no reason for mine not to.
  • BornToB... The Ele... 2013/01/16 03:55:18
    BornToBeWild
    No your not...your just bragging about a few bullet less....WOOPEEE!
  • BornToB... The Ele... 2013/01/16 03:53:54
    BornToBeWild
    More then one bullet already states your going to a gun fight...think before you speak!
  • Aqua Su... The Ele... 2013/03/20 22:48:18
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    Those 6 clips will really help when these guys from FEMA come for you. Think they'll have only 6 clips?
    FEMA  new orleans

    NEW ORLEANS HAPPENED!
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/01/16 01:54:39 (edited)
  • Tennessean The Ele... 2013/01/16 02:58:29
    Tennessean
    +1
    His administrationi is after reducing the effectness of the citizens to resist an arbitary government, because everyone knows that criminals will not abide by any gun control law that congress passes.
  • The Ele... Tennessean 2013/01/18 11:53:41
  • BornToB... The Ele... 2013/01/18 21:17:22
    BornToBeWild
    obviously you have no concept that laws restrict those who obey the laws, not the guilty who breaks them!
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/01/19 19:12:20
    The Electrician
    We're not talking about criminals, We're talking about the availiibilty of AR's encouranging people to committ mass murder, just because they can.
  • BornToB... The Ele... 2013/01/16 03:56:16 (edited)
    BornToBeWild
    no he isn't...he's about taking over! Unarmed citizens is easier to control and dominate over!
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/01/19 19:16:16
    The Electrician
    You've obviously gotten your degree in political science from the University of Stupidity and Ignorance. What's he going to do once he takes over ?

    You don't even realize how idiotic you sound, babbling like little children.
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/03/24 18:16:03
    The Electrician
    I've got to stop replying to "paranoid delusional idiots."
  • The Ele... BornToB... 2013/01/19 19:01:36 (edited)
    The Electrician
    Common sense says that you don't need anymore than six or seven rounds in a handgun, be it revolver or semi-automatic, double barrel shotguns,1or 2, semi-aut shotguns 5 or 6, .22's tube fed or clips 10 to 15, Hunting rifles, semi-auto or bolt action 5 or 6. Personal protect or carry, any of the pistols listed above. Assault Weapons were developed and designed for the Military or Law Enforcement, if you need one get Special Permission.

    The only reason we're having this conversation is because the AR's are are falling into the hands of the wrong people. There is just too many of them around, unless you're in the Military or Law Enforcement, you don't need them and for the most part they're falling into the hands of the wrong people. The gun manufacturers realize the "appeal" of these weapons. I'm not impressed with them and I've had guns for 60 years.

    This is not an issue of gun rights, it's issue of "selfish" American's having it's their way and trying to use the Constitution to get it.

    We don't have any Militia's any more, if we did, most of these people wouldn't qualify for one reason or another to be in them.
  • connie (in name only) BN-0 2013/01/09 17:21:27
    OTHER
    connie (in name only) BN-0
    +2
    Our biggest threat is from FEAR.
    FDR: "The biggest thing we have to fear is fear itselt."

    Besides that Piers Morgan (CNN) is a lousy interviewer with biased viewpoints, Alex Jones (conservative radio host) demonstrates why America's greatest threat is from FEARMONGERING. People like Jones are the reason that the U.S. needs an intelligent, sensible discussion on gun control and mental health evaluations. When insane beliefs take action, innocent people die.

    See videos from bizarre interview -
    http://www.upworthy.com/angry...
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