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MULTI-CULTURALISM IN GERMANY FAILS SAYS MERKEL

SunShine 2010/10/18 20:39:23
Related Topics: Germany, Polls, Marriage, Islam

BERLIN (AFP) – Germany's attempt to create a multi-cultural society has failed completely, Chancellor Angela Merkel said at the weekend, calling on the country's immigrants to learn German and adopt Christian values.


Merkel weighed in for the first time in a blistering debate sparked by a central bank board member saying the country was being made "more stupid" by poorly educated and unproductive Muslim migrants.


"Multikulti", the concept that "we are now living side by side and are happy about it," does not work, Merkel told a meeting of younger members of her conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party at Potsdam near Berlin.


"This approach has failed, totally," she said, adding that immigrants should integrate and adopt Germany's culture and values.


"We feel tied to Christian values. Those who don't accept them don't have a place here," said the chancellor.


"Subsidising immigrants" isn't sufficient, Germany has the right to "make demands" on them, she added, such as mastering the language of Goethe and abandoning practices such as forced marriages.


Merkel spoke a week after talks with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in which they pledged to do more to improve the often poor integration record of Germany's 2.5-million-strong Turkish community.


Turkish President Abdullah Gul, in a weekend interview, also urged the Turkish community living in Germany to master the language of their adopted country.


"When one doesn't speak the language of the country in which one lives that doesn't serve anyone, neither the person concerned, the country, nor the society," the Turkish president told the Suedeutsche Zeitung.


"That is why I tell them at every opportunity that they should learn German, and speak it fluently and without an accent. That should start at nurseries."


German President Christian Wulff was due for a five-day visit to Turkey and talks with the country's leaders on Monday.


The immigration debate has at times threatened to split Merkel's conservative party, and she made noises to both wings of the debate.


While saying that the government needed to encourage the training of Muslim clerics in Germany, Merkel said "Islam is part of Germany", echoeing the recent comments of Wulff, a liberal voice in the party.


Horst Seehofer, the leader of the CDU's Bavarian sister party, CSU, who represents the right-wing, recently said Germany did not "need more immigrants from different cultures like the Turks and Arabs" who are "more difficult" to integrate.


While warning against "immigration that weighs down on our social system", Merkel said Germany needed specialists from overseas to keep the pace of its economic development.


According to the head of the German chamber of commerce and industry, Hans Heinrich Driftmann, Germany is in urgent need of about 400,000 engineers and qualified workers, whose lack is knocking about one percent off the country's growth rate.


The integration of Muslims has been a hot button issue since August when a member of Germany's central bank sparked outrage by saying the country was being made "more stupid" by poorly educated and unproductive Muslim migrants with headscarves.


The banker, Thilo Sarrazin, has since resigned but his book on the subject -- "Germany Does Itself In" -- has flown off the shelves, and polls showed considerable sympathy for some of his views.


A recent study by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation think tank showed around one-third of Germans feel the country is being "over-run by foreigners" and the same percentage feel foreigners should be sent home when jobs are scarce.


Nearly 60 percent of the 2,411 people polled thought the around four million Muslims in Germany should have their religious practices "significantly curbed."


Far-right attitudes are found not only at the extremes of German society, but "to a worrying degree at the centre of society," the think tank said in its report.


"Hardly eight weeks have passed since publication of Sarrazin's theory of decline, and the longer the debate continues to a lower level it falls," the weekly Der Spiegel commented Sunday.




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  • Angel 2010/10/18 21:28:07
    Angel
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    Our own Govt needs to force immigrants to adjust to our way of life and speak our language and they should not expect us to to adjust for them

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  • USC Gamecock fan 2010/11/28 04:20:12
    USC Gamecock fan
    +1
    Germany is at least working toward what we should be doing. Checking immigration, a national language and education of legal immigrants. it looks like the muslim population is trying to suck the life out of every democracy in the world. They are like parasites. Everywhere and up to no good.
  • SunShine USC Gam... 2010/11/28 04:22:52
    SunShine
    +1
    thanks for the comment.. I think that the Muslims are utilizing the American political correctness they have learned to their best advantage.. just as they see the blacks and hispanics doing it..
  • USC Gam... SunShine 2010/11/28 04:25:54
    USC Gamecock fan
    +1
    I agree with you Sunshine 110% it can't go on forever. You do know in the Bible it says if a man doesn't work he doesn't eat. I will have to find that passage and share with you
  • bacon bits 2010/10/25 01:40:28
    bacon bits
    +1
    I've said the same thing about America...adapt or go back where you came from.
  • GINGERBREAD 2010/10/19 12:39:11
    GINGERBREAD
    +2
    Of course it's been a failure. Every idea that these progressives have had, since it's inception, has been a failure, when put into practice. Any one of you "PROGRESSIVES" out there, tell me, "WHAT PROGRESSIVE IDEAS THAT WAS PUT INTO PRACTICE HAS EVER TURNED OUT WELL FOR ANYBODY?" I would be very interested in anyone that is a "PROGRESSIVE" out there to give me an answer.
  • SunShine GINGERB... 2010/10/19 20:34:08
    SunShine
    +1
    excellent question
  • ronbo51 GINGERB... 2010/10/20 17:12:34
    ronbo51
    +1
    i doubt if any will even answer. they are in hiding! under a rock ?, in a cave?, OR more likely stuck on the sinking ship that OBAMA is on now!
  • Lady Whitewolf 2010/10/19 09:29:19
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    I agree with Angel....
  • ThomasS... Lady Wh... 2010/10/19 14:36:26
    ThomasSnouffer
    +1
    As do I ! Laconic, candid, and a sentiment I feel an ENORMOUSLY large number of Americans agree with! It would appear maybe we are no longer silenced by the P.C. crowd! At least some of us!
  • Lady Wh... ThomasS... 2010/10/19 16:19:43
    Lady Whitewolf
    true!
  • MichaelWolfgang 2010/10/19 08:07:36
    MichaelWolfgang
    +1
    it makes me want to move to the fatherland~ lmao!
  • Red Branch 2010/10/19 03:46:19
    Red Branch
    +1
    Americans pay attention.
    Germany just has Moslems, we have Mexicans and Moslems.
  • Theresa 2010/10/19 01:55:07
    Theresa
    +2
    Germany has a big problem and since they have taken the multicultural blinders off they can now recognize it.
  • keeper 2010/10/19 01:41:08
    keeper
    +2
    Thanx for posting this... now let's follow their lead!!! Speak English as your primary language in America!!
  • bls 2010/10/19 00:39:31
    bls
    +3
    Angie's just telling it like it is over there!!
  • SunShine bls 2010/10/19 01:35:00
    SunShine
    +3
    one of the biggest problems that Germany has is that after the war they let in a lot of muslims from Turkey to help rebuild the country.. so many German men had died there was a shortage of laborers in the country. Some of these have married German women and are now citizens who have integrated, but many more never have integrated and remain in their "colonies" where hundreds of thousands of them live together.. In Berlin they have taken over a whole area of the city.
    This is how I see the problem.. and I witnessed this in Canada and the US and in Germany. When people come from other countries, they do not have the same standards as they do in those countries.. they have different habits of cleanliness and hygiene, different eating habits, worship habits, they are brought up to either know or not know community involvement and interaction with their friends and neighbors, they are used to a different language, different laws and consequences to breaking those laws.. is it any wonder why immigration is such a problem? What people who immigrate must get through their heads is that they are expected to learn the language, oral and written, integrate into their communities (not just with others of their faith or nationality) and adopt some of the habits of their new homeland.. sh...
    one of the biggest problems that Germany has is that after the war they let in a lot of muslims from Turkey to help rebuild the country.. so many German men had died there was a shortage of laborers in the country. Some of these have married German women and are now citizens who have integrated, but many more never have integrated and remain in their "colonies" where hundreds of thousands of them live together.. In Berlin they have taken over a whole area of the city.
    This is how I see the problem.. and I witnessed this in Canada and the US and in Germany. When people come from other countries, they do not have the same standards as they do in those countries.. they have different habits of cleanliness and hygiene, different eating habits, worship habits, they are brought up to either know or not know community involvement and interaction with their friends and neighbors, they are used to a different language, different laws and consequences to breaking those laws.. is it any wonder why immigration is such a problem? What people who immigrate must get through their heads is that they are expected to learn the language, oral and written, integrate into their communities (not just with others of their faith or nationality) and adopt some of the habits of their new homeland.. show respect for their neighbors and the laws and DO NOT PUSH THEIR IDEAS OF LAWS AND RIGHTS on your new homeland.. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY NEED TO AGREE TO DO WHEN THEY APPLY FOR ENTRY .. IF THEY DON'T THEN THROW THE APPLICATION AWAY. IF THEY ACT LIKE CRIMINALS AND MAKE DEMANDS THAT ARE NOT THEIR RIGHTS, THEN THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO CANCELLATION OF THEIR STATUS. I believe these people all think that they can have the benefits of living in the greatest countries in the world and taking advantage of the freedom without any cost.. Everything has a cost.. their cost should be that they must make changes to their life style.
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  • bls SunShine 2010/10/19 03:16:42
    bls
    +2
    You know we have the same issues here but nobody wants to address them. We actually let these people have dual citizenship if you can imagine. They swear an oath of allegiance to this country, but their real allegiance is to their homeland. They send their money there, have homes there and they just treat this country as a place where they can come and make the money to send back to their real "home".. They don't care about being an American for the actual responsibilities of being an American, it's about getting that passport which helps them travel and get into countries they would not be able to get into with their homeland passport. But they use that passport when they go back "home".
  • SunShine bls 2010/10/19 04:09:21
    SunShine
    +1
    I believe with the Muslims it is not even their homeland as much as Islam.. but your points are well taken.
  • ThomasS... SunShine 2010/10/19 14:38:44
    ThomasSnouffer
    +1
    OUTSTANDING POST! Kudos!
  • SunShine ThomasS... 2010/10/19 20:35:31
    SunShine
    thank you Thomas.. thanks for coming
  • Dogammit 2010/10/18 23:17:53
    Dogammit
    +2
    Germany and France are turning right, but Obama and the left who say they love Europe so much, are moving in the opposite direction!
    I hope The Netherlands can see the error of their ways. Free speech is a precious right enjoyed by few nations. Holland is now imprisoning people for speaking out against Islam.
    http://www.internationalfreep...
  • teigan 2010/10/18 23:11:05
    teigan
    +3
    Our schools have already been dumbed down by illegal aliens.
  • ThomasS... teigan 2010/10/19 14:44:39
    ThomasSnouffer
    +1
    So has our society!
  • OPOA912 2010/10/18 23:07:15
    OPOA912
    +2
    Wow, maybe they've started listening to Austrailia
  • spike 2010/10/18 22:57:39
    spike
    +2
    that, along with frances burqua ban, oughta shut up those 'why can't we be more like the europeans?' twits out there
    frances burqua ban oughta shut europeans twits
  • SunShine spike 2010/10/18 23:19:14
    SunShine
    +1
    lol.. that's hilarious
  • spike SunShine 2010/10/19 01:01:28
    spike
    +2
    oui oui monsieur le kerry...
  • SunShine spike 2010/10/19 01:37:49
    SunShine
    +1
    le pej!!!!
  • SunShine SunShine 2010/10/19 01:40:42
    SunShine
    +1
    no.. le connard!!
  • spike SunShine 2010/10/19 07:31:15
    spike
    +1
    le chien!
  • boberry 2010/10/18 22:57:01
    boberry
    +2
    Hooray for Merkel!
  • ChristinaLeeAnnCrites 2010/10/18 22:39:53
    ChristinaLeeAnnCrites
    +2
    More good news for Europeans..... finally, someone in their government gets it.
  • IndyLinda 2010/10/18 22:35:01
    IndyLinda
    +3
    Gee, I am so shocked. All the dhimmis and apologists in America should take note: "Nearly 60 percent of the 2,411 people polled thought the around four million Muslims in Germany should have their religious practices "significantly curbed." "
  • Bill in Niantic 2010/10/18 22:14:54
    Bill in Niantic
    +2
    She is right on
  • JT For Political Reform 2010/10/18 22:13:44
    JT For Political Reform
    +2
    I just hope after the elections in November that we get people with balls enough to curb the illegal and legal immigration issues. If you come into this country you MUST be legal and abide by the laws or get tossed out, period.
  • akgold 2010/10/18 21:46:57
    akgold
    +2
    Bravo for the Turkish leaders!

    CONTRAST that to Calderon lecturing us about our inhumane treatment of ILLEGAL immigrants.
    Calderon, he of a country that rapes, murders and extorts those who enter his country looking for a better life. Calderon, the Dems gave him a standing ovation for his condemnation of our actions. Immigrants, legal or otherwise, to ANY country should realize they are going into somebody else's home. It is not for the country you choose to make changes on your behalf.
  • SunShine akgold 2010/10/18 21:54:24
    SunShine
    +1
    That Calderon was not sent packing I will never understand.. but then I don't think anyone can explain how liberals think either.. must be an illness.. wonder if there is a "shot" for it? calderon packing understand explain liberals illness shot
  • akgold SunShine 2010/10/18 22:27:12
    akgold
    +4
    Well there is one available, but the side effects are problematic!
    effects problematic
    effects problematic
  • ThomasS... akgold 2010/10/19 14:54:24
    ThomasSnouffer
    +1
    A truly scary thought my friend, because of its possibility!
  • teigan SunShine 2010/10/18 23:10:15

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