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More than 3 to 1 people are signing up for Medicaid over ACA. Is this a good sign?

☆stillthe12c☆ 2013/11/13 21:35:43
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Obama admin releases Obamacare enrollment numbers, and they’re devastatingly low

Only 27,794 Americans managed to push their way through Obamacare’s
federal website far enough to pick a commercial health-care plan that
could work for them, according to the Obama administration.


Overall, 106,185 used the federal or state exchanges to select one of
the government-compliant health-care plans for use in 2014, according
to a Wednesday statement by the Department of Healthexchanges select government-compliant health-care plans 2014 wednesday statement department health and Human Services.


Those 106,185 sign-ups, if they pay their first premiums by Dec. 15,
will represent a mere 1.5% of the 7 million total enrollments the Obama
administration is aiming for in the first six months of the program.

The statement did not say how many of the 106,185 have confirmed their choice with an insurance companyobama administration aiming program statement 106185 confirmed choice insurance company, or paid their first premiums, which are due Dec. 15.


The statement also did not describe the average monthly premiums of the selected plans.


Also, 975,407 people have gotten though the first few stages of the
complex, crippled federal and state websites, including the 106,185
people who have picked a plan.


States have also added 396,261 people to Medicarecrippled federal websites 106185 people picked plan 396261 people medicare via state and federal mechanisms, often by bypassing the crippled websites and adding people’s name to Medicare lists.


The administration hoped to have 3.3 million signed up for Obamacare-compliant commercial insurancemedicare lists administration hoped 3 3 signed obamacare-compliant commercial insurance after three months, and 7 million signed up after 6 months.

The market is working and people are enrolling,” Kathleen Sebelius,
the secretary of Health and Human Services said Wednesday. People take
time before making a purchase, she told reporters.

“We intend to put out more detailed information as we go forward,”
Sebelius said when asked if the system is enrolling enough young,
healthy people to offset the huge costs of older sicker people, and of
poor people who will get expensive federal subsidies.


Officials said they are trying to improve the operation of the
federal website, which is linked to a complex series of databases
operated by states, federal agencies and insurance companies.


“The site will be working smoothly for the vast majority of users….
users will be able to move faster through the system… experience less
time-outs, and complete their application and enrollment in one
sitting,” said Julie Bataille, the director of the Office of
Communications Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.


However, Sebelius suggested the site would have difficulty in
handling some groups of people, such as families that include citizens
and legal immigrants.


Bataille said the “error rate” at the website has dropped from 6 percent to 1 percent.


However, she did not explain how many opportunities there are for
errors when a person is trying to sign up for a commercial plan.


To offset the clogged website, the government has hired more than 18,000 aides, dubbed “navigators,” Bataille said.


But officials want people to apply as soon as possible, because
officials may have even more technical problems if a crush of people try
to sign up in the last two week before the Dec. 15 or March deadlines.


“It is running right now… don’t wait until the 30th of November,” Sebelius urged Americans.



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  • dubbie 2013/11/13 22:42:18
    All of the above.
    dubbie
    +7
    Just remember who did this to our Country DEMOCRATS , Its time for America to put this party in its place Time for America to tell them, HELL NO Make us pay for your fraud

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  • A Founding Father 2013/11/14 06:29:29 (edited)
    We just need to pay the bill regardless of what it does to the economy.
    A Founding Father
    Obviously you have some RWNJ agenda to promote here. To qualify for Medicaid one has to have less than $2,000 in total assets, not counting your home if you live in it. Obviously such persons aren't going to be buying a private medical insurance plan.
    If they go to the hospital they aren't really expected to pay for the care - it will be paid
    by your insurance carrier and shared with Medicaid/Medicare reimbursements. Bringing
    these persons onto Medicaid will enable both Doctors and Hospitals to be paid directly
    for services rendered, enabling these to visit a clinic or private physician, and lower the
    burdens passed to private insurance carriers.

    BTW, Medicare is not a state administered program and states do not "sign up" Medicare applicants.
  • ☆stillt... A Found... 2013/11/15 03:38:34
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    What I want is for the government to come up with something that does not force the rest of the world to pay more. They should have done abetter job of getting these people on to medicaid in the first place. You do not mess with the whole United States in order to get 15 million people covered. Plus the fact is the CBO says that we are still going to have 15 million people without insurance do to ACA because they have now lost their insurance and can not afford any of the policies that are available to them. ACA is not getting the job done.
  • A Found... ☆stillt... 2013/11/15 08:11:14
    A Founding Father
    +1
    Medicaid has been given to the individual states for decades, to control and be a conduit for Federal funds, with substantial state contributions. Some states managed well, others managed to find reasons to not provide benefits to the most needy, other states loaded just about everyone who wished so "freebies" into some sort of Medicaid program. So, there are 50+ different versions of Medicaid at this time. The ACA tries to make these more uniform by offering for the Feds to take a greater share for a few years from those states that will agree to more standardized programs and qualifications.

    If 15 million more are enrolled in the Federally defined Medicaid, that is probably a step in the right direction for the poorest of the poor to improve their access to medical care outside of the ER.

    I think those whose policies were cancelled owing to non-compliance with the newly mandated ACA requirements will eventually find similar coverage at similar prices to what they were paying. Now, most of these cancellations arose from "employer paid" policies, or so-called "HMO" groups, generally owing to the provisions they imposed of being able to terminate those who became seriously ill, or deny coverage to those with "pre existing conditions", not cover children of insureds to age 2...
    Medicaid has been given to the individual states for decades, to control and be a conduit for Federal funds, with substantial state contributions. Some states managed well, others managed to find reasons to not provide benefits to the most needy, other states loaded just about everyone who wished so "freebies" into some sort of Medicaid program. So, there are 50+ different versions of Medicaid at this time. The ACA tries to make these more uniform by offering for the Feds to take a greater share for a few years from those states that will agree to more standardized programs and qualifications.

    If 15 million more are enrolled in the Federally defined Medicaid, that is probably a step in the right direction for the poorest of the poor to improve their access to medical care outside of the ER.

    I think those whose policies were cancelled owing to non-compliance with the newly mandated ACA requirements will eventually find similar coverage at similar prices to what they were paying. Now, most of these cancellations arose from "employer paid" policies, or so-called "HMO" groups, generally owing to the provisions they imposed of being able to terminate those who became seriously ill, or deny coverage to those with "pre existing conditions", not cover children of insureds to age 26 (yea, that is a long time, isn't it), etc.
    These things will find a solution in a short time. The insurance industry, of course, is pissed that now Congress is beginning to look into their hugely profitable little world of dominance and power, so don't get yourself too excited about today's events. It's all about money and power to control. When the industry realizes they need to write some better coverage, it will happen and be priced to be attractive.
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  • ☆stillt... A Found... 2013/11/16 22:45:51
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I think that the government needs to drop much of the coverage that is forcing so many people to loss their coverage. Although this may create some problems in its self. Let the people pick the coverage they need.
  • A Found... ☆stillt... 2013/11/17 01:44:14 (edited)
    A Founding Father
    +1
    I understand you opinion, but insurances don't work just that way. The whole idea behind insurance is to spread the most possible risks among the broadest base. For instance, a young person might elect to not insure a family for cancer, perhaps explaining that "No one in my family ever died from cancer". And then, the mother of three finds a lump in her breast, and there you go.toward another family wiped out by the costs of Mother's care while taxpayers pick up the bill for all that the family can't pay. No one can really anticipate the insurance they may "need" as the future health of any individual or family is not predictable. For such reasons one cannot "pick the coverage they need".
  • ☆stillt... A Found... 2013/11/17 05:46:01
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    If you buy your own insurance what you say is true. But most people get their insurance from the company they work for so they do averages over the general population. When you go to buy a policy yourself they ask for your family history and tell the cost based on your risk. Like if there is a history of cancer or heart disease in your family. They ask question about you personal habit. Like what sports do you participate in. Cycling, golf what ever. Just as they do for life insurance. If you can afford it they have umbrella policies. They cover everything and have no limits. The older you are the more it is going to cost you.
  • Rodney 2013/11/14 05:39:21
    All of the above.
    Rodney
    +1
    In the past, Medicaid has been a primarily state financed program. Under the ACA, the federal government is funding it until 2015 or 2016 when they start tapering their funding by 10% per year until it is once again a state funded program. This will end up placing a HUGE burden on most states who are already struggling with unfunded budgetary items.
  • ☆stillt... Rodney 2013/11/15 03:42:49
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Absolutely correct and the CBO says that in the end there will still be 15 million people without insurance. The President and Congress have committed fraud and lied to the nation.
  • Rodney ☆stillt... 2013/11/15 03:58:54
    Rodney
    +1
    Yes they have, but who do we have that will take them to task for their fraud? Ted Cruz has been vilified horribly for standing up, Rand Paul is dismissed at every turn. The careerists won't allow anyone to challenge their power and attempt to stand up for the people.
  • ☆stillt... Rodney 2013/11/16 22:47:28
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    You are so right my friend and I wish I had an answer for your question. I do not at this time.
  • Rodney ☆stillt... 2013/11/20 05:56:31
  • ☆stillt... Rodney 2013/11/24 00:28:30
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Hell I have been pushing for that for years. Even when Bush was in office.
  • Rodney ☆stillt... 2013/11/24 00:37:06
    Rodney
    +1
    Yeah, the ruling elite left the planet a long time ago. I am so hopeful that this next election brings in many new faces who are more concerned with the citizens and what's best for America then what will enrich them and advance the UN agenda. I would so love to see a vast number of these careerists tossed out on their butts. Careerists from BOTH parties.
  • ☆stillt... Rodney 2013/11/24 18:00:39
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Same here. If it were up to me we would toss them all out and start all over.
  • Rodney ☆stillt... 2013/11/25 02:38:51
  • ☆stillt... Rodney 2013/11/25 02:39:38 (edited)
  • Prairie Wind 2013/11/14 04:51:31
    ACA is going to bankrupt the nation.
    Prairie Wind
    +1
    Either the States establish their own Medicaid programs, contrary to Obama's offer of cash and resulting obligation to Obama. However, the State's own funds may be insufficient to cover all of those avoiding ObamaCare, thus payments for medical services will be at risk.

    People must demand a repeal of this unaffordable tax and an alternate approach, excluding government bureaucracy and structure relationships directly with your physician and seek a competitive medical insurance from firms permitted to compete nationally across state lines. We do not need a Federal Government whom has no business attempting to conduct business in conflict with our Constitution. It's time to rise and say, "No More".
  • ☆stillt... Prairie... 2013/11/15 03:44:38
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I totally agree!!
  • William 2013/11/14 02:54:17
    All of the above.
    William
    +1
    Yes it is. Yes they will.
  • ☆stillt... William 2013/11/15 03:46:10
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    And the shrinking middle class will have more of a burden put on them.
  • William ☆stillt... 2013/11/15 09:59:12
    William
    +2
    Yes they will.
    Obama Beoner
  • ☆stillt... William 2013/11/16 22:48:21
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I think that is true as to what goes on.
  • M A 2013/11/14 02:50:08
    All of the above.
    M A
    +1
    What is left of the working class is so screwed
  • ☆stillt... M A 2013/11/15 03:46:28
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Indeed they are!!!
  • Justin~PWCM~JLA 2013/11/14 00:28:00 (edited)
    We just need to pay the bill regardless of what it does to the economy.
    Justin~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    That is funny. When does democrats ever have the idea of paying for anything.

    Buck stops over there

    ObamaCare is such a disaster Obama now wants to be called President Hussein!
  • ☆stillt... Justin~... 2013/11/14 01:54:36 (edited)
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    They never met a dollar of ours they did not want for themselves or spend for us.
  • Justin~... ☆stillt... 2013/11/14 11:57:44
    Justin~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Heard a good point the other day, Yes government prints Money but it is just worthless paper a that point. The private market gives it worth by making products and services people want to pay for. All the Government can do is print more and devalue it.
  • ☆stillt... Justin~... 2013/11/15 03:47:44
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    And they are hard at work to make it worthless paper.
  • Justin~... ☆stillt... 2013/11/15 11:28:43
    Justin~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    It is the stated objective!
  • ☆stillt... Justin~... 2013/11/16 22:49:42
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I am not sure about it being their stated objective but I can read between the lines and see it.
  • Justin~... ☆stillt... 2013/11/16 23:39:14 (edited)
    Justin~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    It is infact the stated goal of the fed chairman Ben bernanke.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/c...
    Ben explains
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...



    Following the step of Roosevelt

    "History doesn't repeat itself but it diffidently rhymes" .
    mark twain
  • ☆stillt... Justin~... 2013/11/17 06:11:22
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    The FED is not part of the government. You are correct that is the FEDs objective.

    If I remember this correctly Bernanke at the time that he was speaking the FED had already loaned out some $16 trillion dollars to the banks. 3.3 trillion of that went to banks in Europe to stabilize the Banks there. Ron Paul was correct that this was eating up the saving of the elderly and drying up their wealth which Bernanke cares nothing about. This is one reason that I thought years ago we should get rid of the FED and let Congress and the Treasury take care of the money. The FED loans all this money out and them makes us pay it back with interest. We are pay interest on what is our own money to them.
  • Justin~... ☆stillt... 2013/11/17 14:16:00
    Justin~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    I have Nothing to add, well said you are correct.
  • ☆stillt... Justin~... 2013/11/18 03:52:38
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Thank You for coming and commenting on my poll.
  • keeper 2013/11/13 23:50:30
    All of the above.
    keeper
    +1
    The mandate threat of obamacare is making people scramble for any kind of insurance that meets the criteria involved. Medicaid does that even though it is federally funded.
  • ☆stillt... keeper 2013/11/14 01:56:20
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    The internet site are guiding them to medicaid. The love to spend our money them borrow more.
  • keeper ☆stillt... 2013/11/14 01:59:39
    keeper
    +1
    Part of the master plan...
  • ☆stillt... keeper 2013/11/15 03:48:23
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    Yes it is my Friend.
  • Christine/Rest in peace Pet... 2013/11/13 23:13:11
    All of the above.
    Christine/Rest in peace Peter Br
    +3
    It would have been cheaper for our nation to have just used Paul Ryan's proposal of giving every low income family 5000 voucher to be used to purchase private insurance. It would not have cost us a trillion and a half dollars, and it would not have turned our health care system upside down. It would have also prevented the thousands of pages of regulation that dictate restrictions on our access to medical care, and elevated government intrusion into our medical choices, bank accounts, and made us ripe for identity theft and loss of privacy.
  • ☆stillt... Christi... 2013/11/14 01:57:10
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    I think that you are right!!

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