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More and More Soldiers Resigning

disinter 2010/08/13 19:15:34
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Since 2004, the number of young men deciding they don’t want to be shootists for Uncle Slam anymore has gone up 234%. In any other line of work, even governmental, people can quit without facing years in a cage or a firing squad. But the Pentagon claims the right to impose either penalty on men who decide they want a different livelihood. Since soldiers are, therefore, slaves for a term, it takes a lot of courage to ride the underground railroad. The 234% figure is impressive.

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  • Roy Duncan 2010/08/14 01:57:26
    Roy Duncan
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    They're not allowed to defend themselves, why would they stay. They're only there now so obama can weaken the military and build his gestapo stronger than the military. You can see his own description of it on youtube. Just type in: obamas civillian security force. You see obama knows he can't rely on the US military to slaughter American citizens just because they disagree with him.

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  • johnnyg 2010/10/01 05:39:11
    johnnyg
    My brother in law was in the army and when he was due to get out they kept him in for 2 more years.
  • Lynn 2010/08/14 21:16:59
    Lynn
    Doesnt surprise me... after all, when your chief commander doesnt even believe in what you are fighting for and wont support your generals... why bother?
  • jackolantyrn356 2010/08/14 04:10:03
    jackolantyrn356
    can you say Obama's game plan. in the military.
  • Roy Duncan 2010/08/14 01:57:26
    Roy Duncan
    +2
    They're not allowed to defend themselves, why would they stay. They're only there now so obama can weaken the military and build his gestapo stronger than the military. You can see his own description of it on youtube. Just type in: obamas civillian security force. You see obama knows he can't rely on the US military to slaughter American citizens just because they disagree with him.
  • BadDog 2010/08/13 22:35:15
    BadDog
    oh boy....the GOP is gonna have some 'splainin to do!
  • Rore73 2010/08/13 21:51:09
    Rore73
    Serving in the military is not for the faint of heart, or those lacking in principles or conviction. Pat Tillman gave up millions of dollars as an NFL player to join the Army to fight the Taliban terrorist and it cost him his life. That's how moved Tillman was that someone had attacked this country and murdered his countrymen. Many people join the military or Reserves for the perks, like extra money or educational benefits, or retirement, but bank on the chance that they will never be sent into combat. It don't work that way; everyone is a soldier first, and a whatever else second, so when called up they start looking for a way out, often going AWOL. The situation involving females in combat roles is also troublesome, since anytime a female wants out, all they have to do is get pregnant, and as deplorable as it sounds, it happens. The size of the military has steadily been reduced, starting with Clinton, and the role of Reserve military has been increased because it's cheaper to maintain, at least until they are called up to be active, full time military.
    The "fair weather patriot" is nothing new in the history of this country, although back in the early days of the country soldiers had better reasons for leaving the fight. Thank God enough soldiers stuck with Gen. Washingt...


    Serving in the military is not for the faint of heart, or those lacking in principles or conviction. Pat Tillman gave up millions of dollars as an NFL player to join the Army to fight the Taliban terrorist and it cost him his life. That's how moved Tillman was that someone had attacked this country and murdered his countrymen. Many people join the military or Reserves for the perks, like extra money or educational benefits, or retirement, but bank on the chance that they will never be sent into combat. It don't work that way; everyone is a soldier first, and a whatever else second, so when called up they start looking for a way out, often going AWOL. The situation involving females in combat roles is also troublesome, since anytime a female wants out, all they have to do is get pregnant, and as deplorable as it sounds, it happens. The size of the military has steadily been reduced, starting with Clinton, and the role of Reserve military has been increased because it's cheaper to maintain, at least until they are called up to be active, full time military.
    The "fair weather patriot" is nothing new in the history of this country, although back in the early days of the country soldiers had better reasons for leaving the fight. Thank God enough soldiers stuck with Gen. Washington it to defeat the British. When the Declaration of Independence was being written, John Adams made a statement that always come to mind when I hear about military deserters:
    "Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

    God Bless the members of our military!
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  • kitty 2010/08/13 21:49:01
    kitty
    +1
    the police should resign also, they are engaging in uncostitutional measures against their own people, remember germany...................... police resign engaging uncostitutional measures people remember germany
  • disinter kitty 2010/08/13 21:55:00
    disinter
    +1
    Exactly.
  • maggiemay 2010/08/13 20:12:06
    maggiemay
    +2
    Who can blame them. They fight for an administration that gives them very little respect. Keeps sending them back, and back again, and then micromanages them on how to fight. Although I don't agree with going AWOL. I wouldn't fight in a war with no end in sight, and my arms tied behind my back either.
  • tiredkitty 2010/08/13 20:08:09
    tiredkitty
    +2
    That's because unlike other conflicts these GI's have been rotated repeatedly over and over...there should be a draft....
  • disinter tiredkitty 2010/08/13 20:11:06
    disinter
    +2
    Rep. Rangel Wrangling to Bring Back Slavery in the United States
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • tiredkitty disinter 2010/08/13 20:14:07
    tiredkitty
    +2
    Yea but all citizens should be required to serve...not just working class kids that can't afford college....That is economic slavery...
  • disinter tiredkitty 2010/08/13 20:16:31
    disinter
    +2
    Rangel wants young Americans to become slaves of the State.

    I’m still trying to figure out how a Black Congressman—who should know the U.S. Constitution which he has sworn to uphold—somehow never got around to reading the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

    “Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

    Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

    But I keep forgetting: Unlike the “evil, greedy, exploitative” wage-paying private sector, it’s not “slavery” if you are forced to work for free for your government country.

    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • tiredkitty disinter 2010/08/13 20:18:52
    tiredkitty
    +2
    Serving your country is not being a slave. It's an honor. And unfortunately the majority of people in the sevice are young people that don't have a lot of other options. They're the ones getting shot up, re-deployed, and maimed. Naw, we need a draft...
  • disinter tiredkitty 2010/08/13 20:20:40
    disinter
    +1
    If the state may force a man to risk death or hideous maiming and crippling, in a war declared at the state's discretion, for a cause he may neither approve of nor even understand, if his consent is not required to send him into unspeakable martyrdom—then, in principle, all rights are negated in that state, and its government is not man's protector any longer. What else is there left to protect?

    The most immoral contradiction—in the chaos of today's anti-ideological groups—is that of the so-called "conservatives," who posture as defenders of individual rights, particularly property rights, but uphold and advocate the draft. By what infernal evasion can they hope to justify the proposition that creatures who have no right to life, have the right to a bank account? A slightly higher—though not much higher—rung of hell should be reserved for those "liberals" who claim that man has the "right" to economic security, public housing, medical care, education, recreation, but no right to life, or: that man has the right to livelihood, but not to life.
  • tiredkitty disinter 2010/08/13 22:31:42
  • disinter tiredkitty 2010/08/14 21:43:38
    disinter
    +1
    All drafts are unfair. All 18- and 19-year-olds are never drafted. By its very nature a draft must be discriminatory. All drafts hit the most vulnerable young people, as the elites learn quickly how to avoid the risks of combat.

    Economic hardship is great in all wars. War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures. The great tragedy of war is that it enables the careless disregard for civil liberties of our own people. Abuses of German and Japanese Americans in World War I and World War II are well known.

    But the real sacrifice comes with conscription – forcing a small number of young vulnerable citizens to fight the wars that older men and women, who seek glory in military victory without themselves being exposed to danger, promote. The draft encourages wars with neither purpose nor moral justification, wars that too often are not even declared by the Congress.

    Without conscription, unpopular wars are difficult to fight. Once the draft was undermined in the 1960s and early 1970s, the Vietnam War came to an end. But most importantly, liberty cannot be preserved by tyranny. A free society must always resort to volunteers. Tyrants think nothing of forcing men to fight and serve in wrongheaded wars. A true fight for survival and def...



    All drafts are unfair. All 18- and 19-year-olds are never drafted. By its very nature a draft must be discriminatory. All drafts hit the most vulnerable young people, as the elites learn quickly how to avoid the risks of combat.

    Economic hardship is great in all wars. War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures. The great tragedy of war is that it enables the careless disregard for civil liberties of our own people. Abuses of German and Japanese Americans in World War I and World War II are well known.

    But the real sacrifice comes with conscription – forcing a small number of young vulnerable citizens to fight the wars that older men and women, who seek glory in military victory without themselves being exposed to danger, promote. The draft encourages wars with neither purpose nor moral justification, wars that too often are not even declared by the Congress.

    Without conscription, unpopular wars are difficult to fight. Once the draft was undermined in the 1960s and early 1970s, the Vietnam War came to an end. But most importantly, liberty cannot be preserved by tyranny. A free society must always resort to volunteers. Tyrants think nothing of forcing men to fight and serve in wrongheaded wars. A true fight for survival and defense of America would elicit, I am sure, the assistance of every able-bodied man and woman. This is not the case with wars of mischief far away from home, which we have experienced often in the past century.

    A government that is willing to enslave some of its people can never be trusted to protect the liberties of its own citizens.

    http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?...
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  • tiredkitty disinter 2010/08/14 23:51:22
    tiredkitty
    You do make a good point about youg people fighting an old mans war. I won't argue that. And yes the wealthy do find more loopholes....that's why you have to make service mandatory for all.
  • johnnyg tiredkitty 2010/10/01 05:52:30
    johnnyg
    I will "serve" my country when I see some invaders in my yard. Not in some millitary industrial complex endless war where both sides have weapons that say "Made in the USA" on them. where is that nice freedom you are talking about? 90% of our money goes to the state for taxes.
  • johnnyg disinter 2010/10/01 05:44:49
    johnnyg
    Good point!
  • johnnyg tiredkitty 2010/10/01 05:44:04
    johnnyg
    it is the state forcing them to get killed, obama should go fight in afganastan if he is so worried about the taliban.
  • BadDog johnnyg 2010/10/01 16:24:19
    BadDog
    +1
    bush should have gone years ago if you wanna send presidents...
  • johnnyg tiredkitty 2010/10/01 05:42:42
    johnnyg
    No we should not be required to serve. You go serve.
  • johnnyg tiredkitty 2010/10/01 05:41:17
    johnnyg
    +1
    No there should not be a draft. Our troops should be here at home.
  • Larson Whipsnade 2010/08/13 19:56:29 (edited)
    Larson Whipsnade
    +2
    Ordinarily I would have no use for deserters, but this time is different. I can't honestly say I wouldn't jump ship myself, if I was ordered to go on patrol in an area know to be heavily Taliban, with an unloaded weapon and only smoke grenades, and told to give the enemy a warning before returning fire! No wonder our boys have had enough!
  • disinter Larson ... 2010/08/13 19:59:33
    disinter
    +3
    I wouldn't go die for some oligarch's wars based on lies either.
  • BadDog disinter 2010/08/13 22:33:39
    BadDog
    they are fighting for 'freedom'. at least that's what bush always said...
  • johnnyg BadDog 2010/10/01 05:58:21
    johnnyg
    Put your self in their place. A bunch of foreigners running around killing people, stopping you in your car when traveling somewere, bombing and shooting. I know I would be fighting back!!
  • BadDog johnnyg 2010/10/01 16:25:26
    BadDog
    +1
    that's why we should'nt even be there....we are not the world's police!
  • BadDog Larson ... 2010/08/13 22:33:00
    BadDog
    and up until very recently, the rifles they were supplied with wouldn't fire far enough to do any damn good. OB fixed that.
  • johnnyg BadDog 2010/10/01 05:58:59
    johnnyg
    OB is a gunsmith?
  • BadDog johnnyg 2010/10/01 16:27:38
  • phoenix... Larson ... 2010/08/14 02:21:20
    phoenix AFCL
    You spelling it out like you have in your post, Larson, makes it sound just as ridiculous as it really is. Is BO insane ???? Do you have to be shy a few braincells to be a progressive/socialist/commie? We have got to get lawmakers with some common sense in DC. ... and some representatives who don't have their 'strings' pulled by Soros.
  • TombstoneJim 2010/08/13 19:39:22
    TombstoneJim
    +2
    Soldiers serve contract periods and many have always decided not to make a career of the service. I am often amazed that we find such wonderful men and women to volunteer in such a long period of conflict. God bless them and their families, and let us pray that a few proud American's will always be willing to step to the front of freedom….for goodness knows there always plenty to cower behind them.
    Semper Fi, Hoorah……
  • Jerry (Iron Priest)☮ R ☮ P ☮ 201
    +2
    Imagine years of killing and being a target along with watching your friends die.
  • disinter Jerry (... 2010/08/13 19:24:08
    disinter
    +4
    All for wars based on lies.
  • kitty disinter 2010/08/13 21:51:47
    kitty
    +2
    its a way to depopulate. that is the new world order agenda. depopulate world order agenda
  • phoenix... kitty 2010/08/14 02:23:35
    phoenix AFCL
    +2
    And a way to bankrupt us. The nineties was a 'boom' decade. We were prosperous. Well, 9-11 and the Iraqi War took care of that. They will stop at nothing to bring us to our knees and destroy us financially.

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