Monster Under My GOP Ballot Box, Your Name Is ACORN

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Monster Under My GOP Ballot Box, Your Name Is ACORN

Posted November 19, 2009 19:38:41
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Here's more of fairy tale-making that the GOP should be afraid of if it ever wants to return to the Land of Majority.

First, let me reiterate: The biggest victory for Republicans on Nov. 3 was the defeat of Conservative Party member Douglas Hoffman. Need more evidence? Hoffman has now unconceded (could this be Oxford's new word for 2010?) his defeat in the race for the New York's 23rd Congressional District.

He first made the announcement on Glenn Beck's show and, emboldened by the response, made the decision official in a fund-raising letter to his followers. The title of the letter is "Stop Another Stolen Election," although he never comes out and says what other election he thinks was stolen.

In fact, he never even says this election was stolen, although he is absolutely certain who has done the stealing: ACORN. Here's a part of Hoffman's letter:

Recent developments leave me to wonder who is scheming behind closed doors, twisting arms and stealing elections from the voters of NY-23.

I'm sure you are as dismayed as I am to learn of the mischief that took place in Oswego and neighboring counties. We know this would not be the first time for the ACORN faithful to tamper with democracy.

Now it's time to actually count every legal ballot and I need your help to ensure the people of NY-23 get the Congressman THEY ELECTED.

So, it's not really ACORN behind these dirty tricks, it was the ACORN "faithful." And by "stolen" Hoffman doesn't seem to mean Democrat Bill Owens lost, only that Owens didn't win by the margin that was initially reported on election night.

Even Hoffman's staff doesn't think the initial miscount means Hoffman won. From the Syracuse Post-Standard:

Rob Ryan, Hoffman’s spokesman, said the campaign knows chances for a victory grow more remote with each passing day.

“As much as I wish it were enough, I don’t think it will be,” Ryan said after Wednesday’s gains. “But there have been plenty of surprises in this race, so we’ll have to wait and see what happens.”

My point isn't that Hoffman is wrong to aggressively challenge what appear to be real issues in how the vote was initially reported. The point is that Hoffman chooses to make his case with bogeymen and monsters in the closet instead of facts.

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+7 Kino November 20, 2009 00:04:52 (edited)

Wait...Hoffman would rather blame ACORN than admit he split the conservative voter bloc of the district down the middle? Un-buh-lievable.
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jackolantyrn356 November 20, 2009 12:46:35

ACORN is just one of the things which will stuff your ballot box to keep in power the Evil that has the Democrats in power . These include Terroriasts, these are the Brown shirts and Black Shirts, shouting slogans as do the SEIU do today. When these poor people are of no use they'll all be sent back to Mexico. The Democrats look to be the most repressive government of all. We cannot stop it. Pray! and Keep at that one mission Pray.
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sue November 20, 2009 10:25:23

What a putz. The candidate NY's 23rd wanted was Dede Scozzafava, but Hoffman (who doesn't even live in the district) was supported from conservatives (also from outside the district) and got a lot of money so polls were showing him with a lead over Scozzafava. Ultimately Scozzafava withdrew, because without the big bucks, she couldn't compete and she was told that she would split the conservative/republican ticket. Meanwhile New York's 23rd decided to demonstrate that it is not a conservative district and for the first time in 150 years voted for a representative that wasn't republican. This is pretty clearly a Hoffman loss, more that an Owens win. Hoffman should just shut up. Maybe he can run in his own district next time.
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candy "The Original" November 20, 2009 06:10:51

If this is a true case......who the hell stole the election for Bushman?????????????/
JP November 20, 2009 06:09:40 (edited)

What I found interesting that a third party candidate nearly won.
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sue to JP November 20, 2009 10:27:49

Interesting in a bad way. The election was almost purchased by people who don't even live in the district. I think district representatives should be elected by people in the district. They are supposed to be represented by the representative. This guy is clearly not representative of how NY's 23rd district's population thinks.
JP to sue November 29, 2009 02:33:34

not according to the election.
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sue to JP November 29, 2009 06:55:59

According to the election, registered republicans voted democrat so they wouldn't have to vote for the conservative. A lot of people stayed home and a full 6% voted for the republican even though she had been forced out of the race. I think it's telling. even republicans won't necessarily support a conservative outsider even with national funding pouring in. I hope they have learned their lesson.
JP to sue December 01, 2009 03:37:48

according to the election? who said/wrote that? The third party candidate nearly beat both sides, even with Obama campaigning hard for the liberal/socialist candidates and Republican nomination was awarded to the other liberal candidate. Even with massive contributions swindled from organized laborers that think that they are being protected. Even with taxpayer "stimulus" money. Almost brought real change against all odds against them in the nearly all liberal district that may be in the middle of an identity crisis.

Almost.
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sue to JP December 01, 2009 09:35:07 (edited)

Obama didn't campaign for the Democrat. The outside the district money was all for the conservative candidate (who also was from outside the district, I might add.) The big money funneled in was for the conservative candidate. They brought in Pawlenty and Palin to draw crowds. And even with these big guns forcing the withdrawal of the republican, the conservative didn't win. Republicans stay home in droves, or voted for the Democrat, with only some voting for the conservative (just because they always vote against the democrat). Even withdrawing, the republican got 6%. People resented the outside interference. New Yorkers are moderates, not conservatives. They should not have tried to buy this guy a seat there.

This is the first time in 150 years that a democrat has one. How can you say it's a liberal district? And why do you think its ok for the national party to stick a local district with their candidate and force the one they want to vote for out of the race?
JP to sue December 01, 2009 13:51:06

Obama has never stopped campaigning. It is difficult to reason with a party liner. They cannot comprehend how that poor little socialist got past the evil rich haters. your info is screwy; who is your favorite asshole? maddow? olberman? matthews?
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sue to JP December 01, 2009 14:25:13

You seem to have totally left what we were discussing. Obama never campaigned in NYs 23rd. He is certainly pushing his program agenda, but never campaigned for that representative's position. Please identify which of the information in my previous post is "screwy" and why you think so.

I read most of my news and I try to get different sources: WSJournal, NYTimes, Economist, CS Monitor. I watch very little tv news and most of what I end up seeing is Fox, since the news network I have shows first CNN, then Fox, then a little ABC and MSNBC, but mostly Fox. Sometimes I listen to NPR. I guess of the ones I see regularly, I like Shepard Smith and Anderson Cooper. I do like Rachel Maddow, but she is very biased. I can't stand Olberman, and rarely if ever see Matthews.
JP to sue December 01, 2009 14:28:30

Obama didn't campaign for the Democrat. The outside the district money was all for the conservative candidate (who also was from outside the district, I might add.) The big money funneled in was for the conservative candidate.

I think you are full o'shite.
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sue to JP December 01, 2009 14:56:27

Here are some articles that explain what happened. They mention Palin, Pawlenty, Armey coming in for the conservative. Gingrich supportingthe republican -- no national democrats are mentioned. The last article talks about how local issues decided the race, and how the characterization of the race itself by conservatives drove many voters to the democrat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/1... 23rd&st=cse&scp=3
http://online.wsj.com/article...
http://online.wsj.com/article...
JP to sue December 03, 2009 05:57:08

sure it did, but how often do third party candidates win anywhere? not very often and the third party nearly won. Against the real big money funneled from big business and the labor unions, not to mention certain hedge fund billionaires who have become very profitable with a little policy help.
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sue to JP December 03, 2009 12:48:00

Only because they were funded to the gills and forced the republican out. It was a loss. Even with a ton of money and forcing the republican out. People in New York would rather vote for a liberal Democrat than a conservative -- even if they started as moderates.
Petrifi... to sue December 06, 2009 15:18:12 (edited)

Well, and not to mention Scozzafava throwing her support late in the race to the Democrat. I loved it!!! (Spelling edit)
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sue to Petrifi... December 06, 2009 15:24:16

I know! Talking about the grass roots taking control. They all go ttogether and decided they didn't want an outsider-backed conservative. Yay, NY!
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Petrifi... to sue December 06, 2009 15:30:24

And hypocrisy rules the GOP. If Owens wasn't from the district he would have gotten nailed to the cross.... I mean Jesus really.
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sue to Petrifi... December 06, 2009 15:33:54

You know it! Don't you remember what they said about Clinton in NY? At least she made the effort to buy a house in the state before running. (I didn't vote for her anyway though -- I voted for the other guy in the primary who ran as a third party in the general election and is so unremarkable that I have forgotten him completely, but he was really from New York!)
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jackolantyrn356 November 20, 2009 01:34:03

ACORN is Voter Fraud extended from the WH to the people. ......