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Mitt Romney's Fetish With Police Uniforms???

luvguins 2012/06/07 18:12:10
Oh, how Mitt and Ann Romney like to speak of and chuckle about what a prankster Mitt is, but most of the recipients like the kid whose hair was cut may not have been amused. Well,l now we have the latest quirk about the Ken doll, and his fellow students thought it was quite bizarre. Of course most states consider impersonating an police officer a felony, but when your Daddy is the governor that charge wouldn't happen especially when Dad even gave him the State Troopers uniform.

With reporting by Kyle Roerink

When Mitt Romney was a college freshman, he told fellow residents of his Stanford University dormitory that he sometimes disguised himself as a police officer – a crime in many states, including Michigan and California, where he then lived. And he had the uniform on display as proof.


So recalls Robin Madden, who had also just arrived as a freshman, the startling incident began when Romney called him and two or three other residents into his room, saying, “Come up, I want to show you something.” When they entered Romney’s room, “and laid out on his bed was a Michigan State Trooper’s uniform.”


Madden, a native Texan who graduated from Stanford in 1970 and went on to become a successful television producer and writer, has never forgotten that strange moment, which he has recounted to friends over the years as he observed his former classmate’s political ascent. The National Memo learned of the incident from a longtime Madden friend to whom he had mentioned it years ago.


Said Madden in a recent interview, “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler.”


In Madden’s recollection, confirmed by his wife Susan, who also attended Stanford during those years, “we thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him,” although both Madden and Romney were prep school boys living in the same dorm, called Rinconada.


Other eyewitnesses have previously recalled Romney’s alleged use of a police or trooper uniform in pranks during his high school years at the exclusive Cranbrook School in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.


Phillip Maxwell, a prep school buddy, told the New Republic in 2008 that Romney had pulled over students from a girls school next door to Cranbrook while wearing a police uniform as a prank. Other former classmates described Mitt as a “happy-go-lucky guy known less for his achievements and more for his pranks.”


In The Real Romney, a biography published by Boston Globe reporters Michael Kranish and Scott Helman this year, another former friend recalled how Romney had “put a siren on top of his car and chased two of his friends who were driving around with their dates.” The two friends were in on the scheme, but the girls were not. There was beer in the car trunk, according to a prearranged plan. Mitt told his two counterparts to get out of their vehicle and into his car. Then they drove off, leaving the girls behind.


“It was a terrible thing to do,” said one of his accomplices, a Cranbrook classmate named Graham McDonald.


To some observers, Romney’s alleged masquerading as a cop to intimidate innocent drivers shows a character defect that is also revealed by other bullying incidents during his youth. When those incidents were disclosed in the Washington Post earlier this year, Romney issued an apology of sorts, stating that he had done “stupid” things and was sorry if he had harmed anyone.


While he may have believed that his cop antics were harmless, Romney may well have been breaking the law merely by donning a police uniform, committing a crime if he pretended to be a cop and a felony if he did so more than once. In both California and Michigan, any person convicted of fraudulently impersonating a police officer may be sentenced to up to one year in prison. (The National Memo has collected some other examples of police impersonators.)


The Romney campaign did not respond to multiple requests for comment.


Following his sophomore year at Stanford, young Mitt left and never went back. For more than two years he served as a Mormon missionary in France — thus avoiding the obligation to wear a very different uniform in Vietnam.

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  • Keeping It Real 2012/06/07 18:38:25 (edited)
    Keeping It Real
    +17
    I heard about the coward fantasy with uniforms and illegal activity while in them. There truly is a pattern as it relates to this man which is he lacks compassion, etc..

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  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/27 05:14:12
    Jeremiah
    +2
    Prop 13, that's the one. The shortage of revenues created by that referendum must hurt efforts to get that state's finances in order.

    California has been generous for years. I know people who have moved there for the climate of generosity in social services, which have continued during both Democratic and Republican administrations.
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/29 03:31:08
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    This State Is So Screwed Up...
    Stockton Filing Bankruptcy
    Cities Going Broke for Corruption..Costa Mesa, Bueana Park, etc...
    Los Angeles Files their Balanced Budget and The Next Day Declares a Financial Crisis...
    Part of the Problem Has Been the Generosity...Mainly to Illegals...Like the Bill J. Brown Passed in 2011 as his First Bill..Farm Aid and Migrant Worker (Mainly Illegals), for Free Health Care and Education..But nat Citizens Do Not Qualify, yet They Have to Pay for the Illegals...
    Sanctuary Cities, Providing Welfare to Illegals...
    School Systems Picking Up Illegals at the Border, Transporting Them to School, in Taxpayer School Buses, Feed them Breakfast and Lunch and Transport them Back to the Border...These Are, Mexican Kids From Mexico, we are doing this with..We already have Overcrowding, Yet Let's Bring Kids from across the Border..
    This is Just a Few of the Generosity Programs...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/29 04:22:12
    Jeremiah
    +2
    Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the kids who are picked up at the border born in this country, and then deported with their parents? If that is so, they are natural-born American citizens.
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/30 23:03:15
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Nope...They are Bussing Kids from Across Mexico To Schools On This Side...Then Returning Them back to the Border to return Home in Mexico...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/07/02 16:35:21
    Jeremiah
    +2
    I know that. But kids who were born on this side of the border were taken by their parents back to Mexico when the parents were deported. They are still natural-born citizens, and they can return here whenever they choose.
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/07/02 17:26:27
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Given that fact...It has never been reported if these Kids Being Bussed are Legal Born Here or There..
    The Issue I am Making, is, Tax Payers Should NOT be Paying for this, Just so Schools Here can show greater attendance for FED Dollars, By using Kids from Mexico to achieve those Higher Attendance Standings..
    It Is ONLY About Money, Not Education...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/07/02 17:29:07
    Jeremiah
    +1
    Who is paying for it? The state? Probably not. The school district? If that's where it is, that is where you should get involved.
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/07/02 17:41:41
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    State Receives FED Funding for Every Student In Class..
    City Schools For the Busses...and the Tax Payer through School Taxes pay for those Busses..
    My Whole Point is that the LIB LEFT IN CA IS WACKO....
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/13 01:54:28
    Sissy
    +3
    Let me share with you RECON just one little example of what not having organized labor will do.

    Our daughter opted out of going to college after one year some 25 years ago. She went to work with a new little plastics factory in our area and was one of the first employees hired to work on the floor. She and the rest of the group decided they didn't need one of those pesky unions when management assured them that they would be treated equal to union workers if they stayed out. They did. It worked very well for all those years, until the company which had grown and prospered was sold by the family who started it.

    When the "suits" from the new headquarters came in the following happened.
    *They took an immediate $.75 an hour pay cut
    *The company was no longer going to contribute to their 401K's
    *There would now be a $2500 deductable on their insurance
    *There would no longer be dental or eye glass benefits
    *Lay-offs of the longest serving employees with no "exit" benefits
    *Whole departments were shut down with no advance notice...the employees arrived at work and were escorted out the door immediately.
    *Cut in hours

    She is one of only five of the beginning employees who hung unto her job but she was forced to take a second job to just keep partially up with her family's expenses. Sure th...

    Let me share with you RECON just one little example of what not having organized labor will do.

    Our daughter opted out of going to college after one year some 25 years ago. She went to work with a new little plastics factory in our area and was one of the first employees hired to work on the floor. She and the rest of the group decided they didn't need one of those pesky unions when management assured them that they would be treated equal to union workers if they stayed out. They did. It worked very well for all those years, until the company which had grown and prospered was sold by the family who started it.

    When the "suits" from the new headquarters came in the following happened.
    *They took an immediate $.75 an hour pay cut
    *The company was no longer going to contribute to their 401K's
    *There would now be a $2500 deductable on their insurance
    *There would no longer be dental or eye glass benefits
    *Lay-offs of the longest serving employees with no "exit" benefits
    *Whole departments were shut down with no advance notice...the employees arrived at work and were escorted out the door immediately.
    *Cut in hours

    She is one of only five of the beginning employees who hung unto her job but she was forced to take a second job to just keep partially up with her family's expenses. Sure they made some cuts. No vacations, school was put off for her oldest daughter who had just graduated, and the glasses needed for the youngest could not be bought until she saved from her second job.

    Without some kind of assistance, a worker has absolutely no rights and can work their back-ends off and can lose it all at the drop of a pin. Somehow I don't think that's too swift either.
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  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/13 01:56:34
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    I'm talking Public Unions..Not Private...
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/13 02:29:36
    Sissy
    +3
    The thing that is missing here RECON, is that unlike private unions, public employees (including teachers), do not have to join if they don't want to. Public employees don't have to pay dues or fair share either. Its strictly voluntary. The unions never had a powerful force in our public sector here in Wis. The legislature set the budget and unions really never had much say except in sitting at the table. That's all they wanted to continue to do, "sit at the table".

    Regardless if a private company had a union or not, the competition for laborers in both private and public sector was hinged on what the pay and benefits were. That's why Wis. always had a strong, viable workforce. A healthy state with good schools, decent living conditions, an outstanding university system, and most important of all, a squeaky clean government. All that has been duly crushed because Walker took all those components and pitted them against each other.

    Its been an awful, awful time and I hope and pray with all my heart that we will get thru it, but only time will tell.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/13 02:34:13 (edited)
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    I can't say about there in WI..here In CA...Tey All Must be a member or No Teach, No Police, No Fire, No City Worker, etc.. and The Unions set the Wages here...The Cities are Bound and going Broke...They are always on strike for higher Wages and pensions and the Taxpayer is tired of it...
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/13 02:44:04
    Sissy
    +2
    Why is it that the "tax payer" is so dead set against anyone making a decent living when their own wages could depend on what others get? Was there much of a hue and a cry when the likes of Hank Paulson, Bush II's last Treas. Secretary retired from Goldmann Sachs with $500,000,000 while that institution was on the ropes and millions of Main Street Americans with it? How many teachers, firemen, police, street cleaners etc could have retired on what just that one man did? The sad thing is, he is only one CEO who fried the coffers of their companies and left workers high and dry. Like ENRON. Good god, look what happened to those thousands of people who thought they had a decent life and a healthy retirement? They had no choice but to invest every penny of their retirement in company stock and while some thought they were going to have a healthy retirement, now live with their kids.

    Or Bernie Maddoff? There are so many of these high-end cretens who destroyed so many lives but yet we bitch at that teacher or the poor schmuck who sweeps your streets. Sad, really.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/13 03:10:22
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    Because Why should the Taxpayer pay for a wage higher than they make with the Benefits that the Taxpayer does Not have, or ever get...especially when Most are unemployed at this time in out history..do the Public Unions want to give so the Taxpayer, who is paying that salary can put food on His table...NO..they do NOT want to give an Penny..
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/13 12:47:55
    Sissy
    +2
    So, you want to see and are content with a "race to the bottom"? Do you truly believe that the public worker who inspects your water and air, keeps you safe, puts out fires should do it for the "fun" of it and be glad to do it for you for free? If you don't belong to a union, do you still work a 40 hour week, get a lunch break, paid overtime, have health care, have safe working conditions, see no children on the line if you're in a factory? Unions did all that my friend and to rail against anyone who makes a decent wage, works for you to make your life better, is simply beyond all reason.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/13 15:15:50
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    You can Preach the UNION All you Want..I have Seen the Ugly Side of Them and Have Been a Target as well as My Wife from that Ugly Side...
    Not Buying it as I know better...The Real UNION Thug Side when they are crossed or don't get their Way..
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/16 15:31:36
    Jeremiah
    +3
    Unions are favorite targets for the corporations and their Republican lackeys in Congress, and no wonder. They are the only counterweight to the billionaires and corporations who fund the Republican super pacs with unlimited cash.

    The unions are among the few sources for cash for Democratic candidates, and they keep insisting on fair wage packages and safe working conditions for their workers, all of which are anathema to today's version of the robber barons. That is why they support anyone who promises to crush the unions in their states.

    By trashing the unions you are playing into their hands. You are supporting those who do not support you, or do you seriously believe the corporations care about your welfare?
  • luvguins Jeremiah 2012/06/16 15:38:20
    luvguins
    +2
    He must be for Fascism and a corporate dictatorship of the country.
  • ReconMa... luvguins 2012/06/17 03:42:05
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Not Even Hardly...PUBLIC Unions Have Nothing to Do with Corporate America,,,they Do with TAXPAYER DOLLAR, and Pensions Not Being Funded By Corporate America...again TAXPAYER Problem Now...
    3.9Trillion Unfunded Liability Pensions by JPM, for all amjor Cities that the Taxpayer is NOW on the Hook For or the Cities Go Broke...
    This is What I am Against and Why..Has Nothing to do with your stupid answer...
    You Just Don't get it...
    YOU, luvguins, NOW LIABLE for those unfunded Pensions in YOUR City....How Does it Feel Now..????
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/22 00:34:08
    Sissy
    +2
    What people here in Wis. couldn't get their arms around (and Walker did a real good job with the distortions, mis-information and outright lies that pitted us against each other), is that the legislature sets the budgets, as I'm sure it does in other states. So much funds are allocated to the various departments and that is what they get. The Union sat at the table and negotiated how employees were to use their share. Many years we opted to put our portion into our retirement or health care. Union "thugs" as the Right so likes to call public unions in particular only wanted to continue to sit at the table.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/22 00:51:47
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    Well Here in CA...yes the Cities set a Budget, Yet The Unions Here, DO NOT GIVE...they want other to give...
    LA Just Announced they Passed a Balanced Budget.. Two Days Later anounced a Financial Crisis has occured and that the City Will Go Broke...unless Certain Concessions are not made...The Unions Have Not given so Other Concessions are being Reviewed...
    Teachers Here for instance already Supply their Classrooms with School Supplies and Books..Can't Cut There..Parks..Will Cut there...Roads..already potholed as the worse in the Nation..Will Cut There...and so on and so on...Unions..Naw..No Give..
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/17 03:37:31
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    I am Against the PUBLIC Unions...These are the Ones I have issues With...These are the Ones Taxpayer Dollars go to Not the Private Unions.....
    I believe in a Prevailing Wage System, with Standard Benefits for Like Contractors or Work Skill....same as is done on Public Work areas in Right to Work States...it is a Fair system and the Taxpayer Contribution is greatly reduced for Police and Fire and Rescue...Teachers, should not be Unionized Period and No Tenure...This is why our Education System is in the Toilet...Paying the Schools for Student Showing...WTF...
    Not about Teaching anymore..only the Dollars...reason why we have slipped to a Third World Education Level...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/18 15:44:53
    Jeremiah
    +3
    Funny you should say so. I know several teachers, and it is all about the teaching with all of them. Of course, they'd rather not work for free.

    This is the point. They have a right to earn a living wage, to support themselves and their families. Since they have such an interest in the process, they want a seat at the table when their salaries and benefits are being decided. I don't think that is too much to ask, do you?

    Perhaps you could clear up something for me. Scott Walker spoke often of the evils of collective bargaining for public employees, but he left intact the right of police and fire fighters to do exactly that. How can this be?
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/22 00:33:58
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    I can Only speak for the Quality of teacher Here in CA and The Unions they Belong to Here...Very Bad...I put My Kids in Private school it was so Bad...and still is from people I talk to and the News i see here locally, which by the way is very Liberal and Biased, and it is still bad news...
    LAUSD, will next year reduced the school year by 5 days to reduce the amount of teachers laid off, Because the Union would Not Bend on Pay or Benefits and mainly Tenure...
    I am not saying ALL teachers are bad...I do know some..
    But The Majority...Yes...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/22 15:51:49
    Jeremiah
    +2
    I cannot speak for California schools, but my sister lives there and sends her kids to public schools, after having sent them to private schools. She said she found the public schools to be superior. Now she sits on the school board in her district, and she aims to keep them that way.

    Most teachers are bad? That is quite a statement. I wonder if you have figures to support it. My sister would strongly disagree with you.

    Why is education the first item Republicans want to cut? After cutting funding and firing teachers, how can they then complain about the quality of the schools?
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/23 10:48:26
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    I was Born and Raised in CA and Have Lived here Most of my life..I amd my sister and Brothers and Friends and other Realitives, all complain about teachers Our Kids have been educated by...We see the Problems On the Local News with the Teachers Unions and the Cuts being made by the schools to Keep paying the Teachers...and the Test Scores are Dropping each year...Our Schools Here Suck..if the Majority were Good...Why are the Test Scores Dropping...??
    I am NOT against Cutting Education..I am against Unions and Gov., Iinvolved In Education, causing cuts to Pay for Bad teachers, and Less Class Time...
    I am Against teachers Having to Pay for their Own Supplies...
    I am NOT against Education...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/23 21:58:48
    Jeremiah
    +1
    How can anyone be opposed to education? It often appears Republicans are against it, but that makes no sense if a country believes in its future.

    I am sure I complained about every teacher I ever had, and so did my kids, and now so do my grandkids. As I grew older they suddenly became more competent, and now I am indebted to several of them.

    Does California still teach to standardized testing? No Child Left Behind was a disaster in developing young minds, and I am surprised it is still used anywhere.
  • ReconMa... Jeremiah 2012/06/24 04:13:43
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    REP's are NOT against Education...Only Union Envolvement and Tenure...
    Here they are still No Child Left behind and also in NV..
    Also Funding for every Child Registered each day...Have NO idea where that Money goes...They Only care about the Class Occupancy and Days off..Not teaching...
    CA Education has Slipped way behind in Performance...
  • Jeremiah ReconMa... 2012/06/25 17:37:13
    Jeremiah
    So you agree it is time to get rid of NCLB.
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/22 00:36:45
    Sissy
    +2
    We have "slipped" RECON because whenever state or local governments want to cut funding, they immediately go to education. With the billion dollar cut to school aid here in Wis., voc. tech classes had to be eliminated, Fine Arts programs are no more in a lot of school districts as well as important math and science classes because the teachers have lost their jobs.

    Education should be the most important item on any Agenda everywhere in the country, but to most, its dead last.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/22 01:03:02
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    See my response to you above...Education Here in CA has to be the worse in the Nation...

    We Have Definitely Slipped...wonder why we are now ranked with the Third World in Education...???
    I lay Blame to BOTH..GOV and UNION...especially here in CA..Gov Lets Union Dictate, or lose election support...Union refuses to give on any concessions..reason they will let school term reduce by 5-days, cut teachers, cut Programs, let schools remain in a rundown condition...and still require teachers to Supply Their Classrooms...What BS..
    NV is Getting Similar, from when i left there in 2010 to move back here, and from what my son, with kids in school is telling me...my first Ex, whom I have many talks with on this subject while living in NV, was an executive Accountant with the Clark County School District.. and I have friends and Family members in the School System Here in CA...
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/22 00:28:17
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    The TaxPayer is Deadset against paying for Pensions at 90% their salary upon retirement Fot The Rest of Their Life...
    The TAXPAYER is Paying for that...NOT THEM...
    But The Taxpayer Must Pay into Their Pension Fund or IRA for only a poertion of that percentage...
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/22 00:41:18
    Sissy
    +2
    The tax payer has paid just a portion of Teacher's Retirement, much like employers in the private sector pay a portion of a retirement 401 K. Twelve years ago we opted out of two years raise in pay in order to get the benefit of Long Term Health Care. Last week we got a letter in the mail saying the District was no longer going to pay their share. Because negotiations have been taken away, there is no way to confront it. That happened about the same time that all janitors were let go and janitorial services were outsourced. The employees could apply for the positions with the private company but it would be with no benefits and at minimum pay. Some of those custodians had been employed for 20 years.

    Now, how is that going to help our economy?
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/22 01:21:41
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    I do Hear what you are saying...I really do...But...There MUST be a Middle Ground and neither GOV or UNION, from MY experience with Both in the PUBLIC Sector, as an Architect and Developer, Do NOT come to the Middle...
    So The Cost is passed to the taxpayer...
    You would have a heart attack if you knew how much an Acare of land is Paid for by the Developer for School Fees, Roads Tax and Park Fees, along with the taxes You as a Property owner pay into these as well...where is all this money going....from the Conditions of these Schools, Roads and Parks, not to mention the Overcrowding, that exists, because the Monies Collected, were Used Elsewhere...

    Then Here in CA...we have had the Lottery since the 80's where most of the monies collected are to go to Schools..Where has that Money Gone..Not paid out in winners..over this period of time...

    And just last year, a High School for LA, was approved to be Built at an estimated cost of 650-Million...with the City Broke.....Guess Who's name will go on it....Al Gore..
    Any guess why it was approved when the City is Broke and teachers will be cut and programs cut..????
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/22 12:34:18
    Sissy
    +2
    I feel sad when I think of what the California education system has become. They, like Wis, were once regarded (in my own growing up years), one of the premier systems in the country. Without even pretending to understand where it all began RECON, I know that back when Reagan was governor, all those "Propositions" began and he took direct aim at property taxes which fund schools. A neighbor's daughter lives in California, the wife of a neuro surgeon and has a home that is beyond belief. They pay less property taxes than we do on our modest ranch we built over 30 years ago.

    Personally, I always thought that property taxes were the fairest. You paid for what you had, but freezing them or lowering them, and then not having revenue coming from other sources, the system is going to take a "bath"

    Its unfortunate that schools must depend on local funding from property because when cuts are made in that tax, it directly affects the schools.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/23 10:57:37
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +2
    I understand what you are saying...I had an excellent education..but I am a product of a different Society as well...
    Yes the Prop Tax did hurt, But Not that Much for the Schools...Not in the Beginning, due to Developer Taxation per Acreage and the Lotto fees paid to Education...They Off set the Prop Tax Cuts...That was the Purpose of the Lottery....But Over the years..Developr Fees Went Up and Lottery Monies were Used Elsewhere, Thatnks to Our LIB Gov Here in CA. Lottery Money was to be useded Only for Education...Not anymore...It is a Sacramento Slush Fund for Other Programs...
    Yet the Prop Tax cuts are Permanent...and Developer Fees cannot make up that difference...
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/23 11:23:44
    Sissy
    +2
    The lottery winnings here in Wis were SUPPOSED to do the same thing here....go to education. That was the main selling point to bring the lottery here in the first place. "If we can fund education without property taxes, then its a win-win". But just like California, it wasn't long before the monies were diverted elsewhere, the difference is, we had a Republican governor at the time. lol.

    We are pretty much in the same boat only with different characters.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/23 11:41:36
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    So did we, when Prop 13 and the Lottery came into existance...they Were, to be a win win...then the Lottery got diverted, by the Dem Legislature and the Following DEM Gov...Brown...who all these years later...is Gov again...
  • Sissy ReconMa... 2012/06/23 12:00:49
    Sissy
    +2
    Trouble is for all the states, is that when Washington cuts off revenue thru tax breaks where little money is going into the states for infrastructure, etc., that building roads, bridges and other needed things to operate, the legislatures cast about for any source and who or what suffers the most, (and shouldn't be anything but the top priority)? Its been education and it doesn't matter which Party is in power.
  • ReconMa... Sissy 2012/06/24 04:16:52
    ReconMarine~PWCM*AVA*BTTB*JLA*
    +1
    That is the Old Dodge..Use that tactic all the time, when those Monies actually go elsewhere...otherwise, since those Taxes have not been cut yet...why is Our Infrastructure so Lousy and roads a Mess...
    They are here in CA...so the Monies they say they will lose...Why aren't they already using them...
    THINK...

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