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Mitt Romney says the Iranians released hostages in 1981 because they feared Ronald Reagan's approach to foreign policy.

Sinpac 2012/04/13 18:25:29

This is the way i remembered it! But the right will see it a different way, for some reason the Republicans have rewritten history on this matter.

First, a reminder of what the hostage crisis was all about. In 1979,
the Shah of Iran -- who had been installed and supported by successive
United States administrations -- was overthrown by Islamic
revolutionaries. Militants took over the American embassy and held
hostages from Nov. 4, 1979, until Jan. 20, 1981 -- the day President
Jimmy Carter passed the reins to Reagan, who had defeated him amid
widespread public disapproval of the incumbent’s handling of the crisis.



"Iran contacted the Carter administration in September 1980 with a
proposal to end the hostage crisis," said Gary Sick, a Columbia
University professor who has written two books about the Iran hostage
crisis. "The U.S. made a proposal. Iran responded with an unacceptable
offer just a day or two before the election. Afterwards, they nominated
the Algerians to act as intermediaries. Those valuable discussions went
on until literally the day or two before the inauguration, and they were
settled by the Iranians caving in on a number of issues that were
extremely costly to them. By my calculations, the Iranians ended up
paying about $300,000 per hostage per day of incarceration."



The agreement that led to the release, as described by the New York Times
11 days after it occured, revolved around $11 billion to $12 billion in
Iranian assets that Carter had frozen 10 days after the seizure of the
U.S. embassy. It had been negotiated over the course of several months
before Reagan's inauguration.



The Times, in its account of the inauguration, reported that
"no one on the speaker's stand knew of the latest developments in Iran.
Word quickly spread among the governors, Congressmen and Reagan friends,
family and aides as they left the platform."



Carter informed Reagan at 8:31 a.m. that the release of the hostages
was imminent, "but the onetime bitter rivals for the presidency told
reporters as they entered the speaker's area separately, to the flourish
of trumpets, that the hostages had not yet taken off from Tehran. The
President got his first chance to announce the news at 2:15 p.m. at a
luncheon with Congressional leaders in Statuary Hall in the Capitol."



So Reagan, not Carter, got to bask in the glow of the hostages’ safe
return. However, we contacted seven scholars of the period, and their
consensus was that neither Reagan nor his philosophy played any
significant role in freeing the hostages.



"Well before Reagan became president, the deal for releasing the
hostages had already been worked out by the Carter administration's
State Department and the Iranians, ably assisted by Algerian diplomats,"
said David Farber, a Temple University historian and author of Taken Hostage: The Iranian Hostage Crisis and America's First Encounter with Radical Islam.



"No Reagan administration officials participated in the successful
negotiations," Farber added. "The Iranian government waited to
officially release the Americans until Carter had left the presidency as
a final insult to Carter, whom they despised. They believed Carter had
betrayed the Iranian revolution by allowing the self-exiled Shah to
receive medical attention in the United States and then had threatened
their new government by attempting, unsuccessfully, to use military
force in April 1980 to free the hostages."



"By doing this, Iran thought they were showing the world that they
could meddle in our affairs, just as we had done to them in 1953," added
Dave Houghton, a political scientist at the University of Central
Florida and author of U.S. Foreign Policy and the Iran Hostage Crisis.
Houghton suggested that Iran had a relatively unsophisticated grasp of
U.S. politics, and said he thinks it’s possible that the Iranians
"didn’t even know what Reagan had said on the campaign trail."



"I don't think they were scared into the release," Houghton said. "In
all likelihood, they released the hostages because they needed the
sanctions we'd placed on them lifted so they could finance their war
with Iraq."



The one scholar who entertained the possibility that Iran was taking
heed of the future president’s philosophy was Michael Gunter, a
political scientist at Tennessee Tech University and the author of
several papers about the crisis. Still, Gunter added, the "main reason
for the release" was that "the mileage the Iranians had gained by
holding the hostages had been used for everything it was worth and there
was no further advantage in continuing."



Several other experts agreed that the Iranians’ focus was on Carter, not Reagan.



"If it was related to the occupant of the White House, it certainly had
more to do with Carter than Reagan," said Stephen Kinzer, a former New York Times reporter who now teaches at Boston University and authored the book, Reset: Iran, Turkey, and America’s Future.
"My guess is that the hostages would have been released even if someone
else had been inaugurated -- anyone but Carter. The Iranians had come
to hate Carter and didn't want to give him a triumph. Giving it to
someone else was fine with them."



Sick, the Columbia University professor, said that "those who wish to
believe that the final flurry of activity was out of fear of Reagan have
a right to their opinion. Those closer to the events believed that the
Iranians, who had clearly decided months earlier that the hostages were a
wasting asset, feared that they would have to start the whole laborious
process of negotiation over from scratch with a new administration,
which obviously had no great appeal."

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  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:57:01
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:50:50
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:47:20
    Cut and paste king
    +1
    coronels hung in lebanon
    twa hijacking twa hijacking
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:44:20
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:41:58
    Cut and paste king
    +1
    iranians werent afraid of ronald reagan ther proof was the the oil tankers crossing the strait of bermuz escorted by us military ships the lebanon fiasco the twa hijacking the cruise ship hijacking the hanging of a us coronel etc etc the lebanon airport bombing
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:36:51
  • Cut and paste king 2012/04/13 21:35:27
    Cut and paste king
    that rumor was passed around as i remember but it was later clarified that in Jan 19, 1981 Financial complications delay the release of the hostages. Jan 20, 1981 Hostages are released as Ronald Reagan becomes President , however reagan did a lot of shady deals with iran
    reagan iran
  • ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/04/13 19:48:15
    ὤTṻnde΄ӂ
    +1
    The hostages' fate was determined before Reagan was ever president. He did ask Carter to hold off bringing them home until he was president. Hostages were on their way home even at the time Reagan was being inaugurated. (Wonder why Reagan wanted them to remain captive a little longer.)
  • Sinpac ὤTṻnde΄ӂ 2012/04/13 19:50:43
    Sinpac
    Thank You Tunde
  • Fred 2012/04/13 19:43:43 (edited)
    Fred
    Sinpac and Eddie are trying to say that Carter was going to freee the hostages. Lets look at facts:
    From and including: Sunday, November 4, 1979
    To, but not including : Tuesday, January 20, 1981

    It is 443 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

    Or 1 year, 2 months, 16 days excluding the end date

    Carter had all this time to do something. Lets see he ordered an assult at one time which turned out to be the worst coardinated attack in american history. Why because he gutted the armed forces in his attempt to be the second worse president ever. His book discribes how he was up burning the mid night oil to get them release. What happened the other 442 days. Carter was a loser and the iranians knew it. They knew Reagan wasnt there to play their game so they released them

    Reagan beat Carter by 8,423,115 votes

    Reagan won 489 electorial votes 90.9%

    Carter won 49 electorial votes 9.1%


    Landslide ....
  • Sinpac Fred 2012/04/13 19:52:00
    Sinpac
    +1
    Did I say that Fred? The deal was already in place. For the love of God go read your history!
  • Fred Sinpac 2012/04/17 15:11:47
    Fred
    Sorry sinpac ... I dont need to read history I was following it in the papers . I was in USMC following it very close. Why because at any moment I could have gone . Twice I found myself on a troop transport getting ready to go and the day Reagan was elected everyone of the people in my company had a celibration because Carter was gone. Carter was hated by the military because he was a weak leader that had gutted the military and used us as pawns. Reagan rejuvinated the military and brought pride back to the United States. The time of Carter was a lot like the time we have gone thru with Obama. Reagan let the generals do the planning and brought back the theory that if you send your military than you will do it right and send a force that will be able to defend themselves . And not a bunch of peace keepers
  • Rebel Yell 2012/04/13 19:26:24
    Rebel Yell
    +2
    The hostages were released as Reagan was being sworn in. There were even rumors that their release was delayed a bit to make sure Reagan was in office and that Carter couldn't get the credit/limelight.

    It is true ,however ,that Reagan parted the Red Sea, wrote the Ten Commandments ,invented the wheel and the cure for polio.
  • Cut and... Rebel Yell 2012/04/13 21:59:32
    Cut and paste king
    +2
    yes definetly that a rumor did go around that reagan had made a deal however it was false .
  • Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz 2012/04/13 18:44:22
    Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz
    +5
    Yup, Carter did the work, Reagan took the glory...
  • Sinpac Eddie_s... 2012/04/13 18:47:21
    Sinpac
    +1
    Kinda the way I remembered it. I was in High School when this was all going down so as you can imagine it was always the current event topic daily. There was way more about this then people remember.
  • Fred Eddie_s... 2012/04/13 19:01:14
    Fred
    Bull ... Carter did nothing. Regan came out in the campainge and said once he is elected he will go get the hostages. Others countries laughed at Carter like they laugh at Obama. Iran knew that Reagan wasnt going to cater to their BS
  • Sinpac Fred 2012/04/13 19:05:41
    Sinpac
    BullSH!T
    bullcrap
  • Eddie_s... Fred 2012/04/13 19:39:45
    Eddie_says_OrlyTaitez_is_nutz
    Amazing he was able to get it done just after taking the oath of office

    Nice try - but Ronnie was not all that.
  • Cut and... Fred 2012/04/13 22:04:27
    Cut and paste king
    reagan catered and went to bed with the iranians to the point that reagan sent the ayatollah a bible reagan deals with ayatollah
  • ProudProgressive 2012/04/13 18:41:58
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    Just add this to the growing list of things Mitt Romney doesn't have a clue about.
  • Sinpac ProudPr... 2012/04/13 18:43:18
    Sinpac
    +1
    Thanks P/P
  • EliteAmongOutcasts 2012/04/13 18:30:46
  • Sinpac EliteAm... 2012/04/13 18:42:42
    Sinpac
    There is a book out there called Jimmy Carter: A Comprehensive Biography from Plains to Post-Presidency. A pretty good read if your looking for the truth instead of all the haters view points.
  • Fred Sinpac 2012/04/13 19:05:07
    Fred
    Got half way through it and it was all lies and 1/2 truth. Carter was the 2nd worst president behind Obama
  • Sinpac Fred 2012/04/13 19:08:06
    Sinpac
    What I posted is what happened. Perhaps you need to stop your Reagan Worship

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