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Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval

rdmatheny 2012/06/18 18:11:16
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Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval

Like President Obama, he proposes circumventing the Constitution. What will his anti-war endorser Senator Rand Paul say?

On Face the Nation on Sunday, Mitt Romney said that if elected president
he wouldn't have to get congressional permission for a military strike
on Iran.

[...]






I can assure you if I'm president, the Iranians will have no
question but that I will be willing to take military action if necessary
to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world. I don't
believe at this stage, therefore, if I'm president that we need to have a
war powers approval or special authorization for military force. The
president has that capacity now. I understand that some in the Senate
for instance have written letters to the president indicating you should
know that a containment strategy is unacceptable. We cannot survive a
course of action which would include a nuclear Iran we must be willing
to take any and all actions.




All those actions must be on the table. Romney stated.

If a President Romney waged war without Congressional approval, it would
be the first time a sitting president violated the Constitution's
separation of powers and the War Powers Resolution since President Obama
did it in Libya.




Says Daniel Larison:








The United States survived decades of containing Soviet power.
America outlasted what may have been the greatest security threat in our
history partly because of a policy of containment. Iran is far weaker
than any threat the USSR ever posed. If the U.S. could not survive a
nuclear-armed Iran, a President Romney would be powerless to change
that. On the other hand, back in the real world, if the U.S. has little
to fear from a nuclear-armed Iran and is more than capable of deterring
any threat from Iran, there is no reason to listen to anything Romney
has to say on this subject.


Romney obviously does not believe war is a last resort, and he clearly
doesn't believe that the Congress has anything to say about attacking
Iran. According to Romney, it is something that the president could do
tomorrow if he believed it necessary. The Constitution is completely
irrelevant to Romney, and so is the consent of the American people
expressed through its representatives. No one should have any illusions
about how Romney would conduct foreign policy if he is elected.









Read More: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/0...

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  • DeeB 2012/06/18 20:23:56
    All of the above
    DeeB
    +10
    Now will the neocons get the big picture of what they are going to vote for? I can't understand how the Obama freaks are giving the usurper a pass on everything he has done to us, but for the republicans to actually elect Obamas equal or even worse,is simply mind boggling. The insanity is just endless. Hello, is anyone out there with a functional brain? RON PAUL needs to win that seat so we may rid ourselves of all the psychopaths.

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  • TheCouchF*cker 2012/06/23 06:00:49
    Why don't Romney and Obama just run on the same ticket together?
    TheCouchF*cker
    At least then the pretense that they're different would be destroyed.
  • Racefish 2012/06/19 16:06:44
    None of the above
    Racefish
    +2
    That was "NOT" what he said. Payattention.
  • rdmatheny Racefish 2012/06/19 16:39:31
    rdmatheny
    +2
    Oh, from now on when he is quoted on something he says, we are just to ignore it, because it's not what he really said?
  • Racefish rdmatheny 2012/06/20 17:14:08
    Racefish
    No, just don't pull an MSNBC and do selective editing.

    "I can assure you if I'm president, the Iranians will have no question but that I will be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world. I don't believe at this stage, therefore, if I'm president that we need to have a war powers approval or special authorization for military force. The president has that capacity now. I understand that some in the Senate for instance have written letters to the president indicating you should know that a containment strategy is unacceptable. We cannot survive a course of action which would include a nuclear Iran we must be willing to take any and all actions. All those actions must be on the table."

    Where does it say he'd bypass Congress? Under the War Powers act, the President has 90 days to get Congressional approval or withdraw.
  • 9th of 9 2012/06/19 10:07:24
    Why don't Romney and Obama just run on the same ticket together?
    9th of 9
    +3
    If Obama loses to Romney the plan stays in effect. It's time to end this game of "RISK" they are playing with our lives.
  • Arizona1950 2012/06/19 06:29:37
    Why don't Romney and Obama just run on the same ticket together?
    Arizona1950
    +3
    I've been telling you and telling you ... same direction!
  • *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg' 2012/06/19 03:16:43 (edited)
    All of the above
    *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg'
    +4
    Obama/Romney 2012! That's one ticket that could save this country. Just think: higher taxes for everyone (equality). Not cuts in Government spending (charity). Unbalanced budgets adding to the National Debt (carrying on the tradition of America's greatest Founder, Alexander Hamilton). Free money from the printing presses (Free Money, people! Are you going to pass that up?). War, War, and More War (Glory is a virtue, right?). War is such fun. Nationalize all resources during emergencies (its only fair, especially during times of hardship, that we all have the same access to every resource, whether we worked for it or not). Assassinate civilians (who likes gun toting freedom lovers anyways. We should kill them all). Suspension of Habeas Corpus (Habeas Corpus just sounds kind of old and nasty, don't it? We don't need such archaic pieces of the English Common law in the year 2012!). Bailouts (yeah Baby!). For failed corporations (so the whole economy doesn't collapse in a matter of seconds), failed states (Californians are people too!), failed nations (except for those mean nasty arabs), and failed confederations of nations (the EU is a model for the US). Getting raped in airports before the whole world's eyes (the TSA employers are just lonely. They were sexually repressed during...
    Obama/Romney 2012! That's one ticket that could save this country. Just think: higher taxes for everyone (equality). Not cuts in Government spending (charity). Unbalanced budgets adding to the National Debt (carrying on the tradition of America's greatest Founder, Alexander Hamilton). Free money from the printing presses (Free Money, people! Are you going to pass that up?). War, War, and More War (Glory is a virtue, right?). War is such fun. Nationalize all resources during emergencies (its only fair, especially during times of hardship, that we all have the same access to every resource, whether we worked for it or not). Assassinate civilians (who likes gun toting freedom lovers anyways. We should kill them all). Suspension of Habeas Corpus (Habeas Corpus just sounds kind of old and nasty, don't it? We don't need such archaic pieces of the English Common law in the year 2012!). Bailouts (yeah Baby!). For failed corporations (so the whole economy doesn't collapse in a matter of seconds), failed states (Californians are people too!), failed nations (except for those mean nasty arabs), and failed confederations of nations (the EU is a model for the US). Getting raped in airports before the whole world's eyes (the TSA employers are just lonely. They were sexually repressed during childhood. They deserve to stick their hands down our pants. How could you begrudge them a little harmless pleasure?). Every Special interest group you can name, including the one for the kitchen sink industry getting subsidies (because without the government there to prop everything up, everything would fail). Surrendering of Sovereignty to the UN, NATO, and IMF (Kumbaya my LORD! Kumbaya!). Teaching children to worship flags and pictures of past presidents (except for the laissez-faire and noninterventionist ones, of course. They caused both World Wars and the Great Depression after all!). AMERICA needs these two men or none of these things will happen. Only non-timid Thomas Jeffersons don't "prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty."
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  • mwg0735 2012/06/19 02:36:43
  • rdmatheny mwg0735 2012/06/19 02:39:51
    rdmatheny
    +3
    I guess you didn't watch Face The Nation this past Sunday.
  • mwg0735 rdmatheny 2012/06/19 02:43:25
  • rdmatheny mwg0735 2012/06/19 03:17:00
    rdmatheny
    +4
    You are absolutely 100% correct, it will cost countless lives down the road.
    -----------------------------...

    Iran is no threat, and has been peaceful to us since 1980.

    Everyone knows they aren't developing nuclear weapons or we would have proof of it, and we have none. Iran is not so closed off a society that we don't have spies there, how do you think those viruses got on their nuclear enrichment computers? It wasn't the Internet, they had no connection with the Internet. We had someone inside there working for us! We know everything about their nuclear program and yet no proof emerges that they are even trying to build a nuclear bomb.

    There has to be some other real motive for wanting to attack Iran, and it isn't just Israel either. Israel is not really concerned about Iran with their stock pile of nukes. Iran appears to be a target precisely because they are a nation that sits on a ton of oil. And it is not really their supply of oil so much but what they are trading for it, anything but dollars! The petro-dollar could bite the dust if other oil producing nations do as Iran is doing, and if it bites the dust so does what is left of the US economy.

    But even though that is at least some motive to attack Iran, it is not the real reason the elite want to attack Iran. The real reaso...
    You are absolutely 100% correct, it will cost countless lives down the road.
    -----------------------------...

    Iran is no threat, and has been peaceful to us since 1980.

    Everyone knows they aren't developing nuclear weapons or we would have proof of it, and we have none. Iran is not so closed off a society that we don't have spies there, how do you think those viruses got on their nuclear enrichment computers? It wasn't the Internet, they had no connection with the Internet. We had someone inside there working for us! We know everything about their nuclear program and yet no proof emerges that they are even trying to build a nuclear bomb.

    There has to be some other real motive for wanting to attack Iran, and it isn't just Israel either. Israel is not really concerned about Iran with their stock pile of nukes. Iran appears to be a target precisely because they are a nation that sits on a ton of oil. And it is not really their supply of oil so much but what they are trading for it, anything but dollars! The petro-dollar could bite the dust if other oil producing nations do as Iran is doing, and if it bites the dust so does what is left of the US economy.

    But even though that is at least some motive to attack Iran, it is not the real reason the elite want to attack Iran. The real reason is to purposely start WW3. These are mad men that want to rule the whole world and reduce the world's population down to 500 million so they can better control the serfs and keep them in line. They know Russia and China are allies with Iran. They also know Pakistan would side with Iran in a war against the USA, especially since Pakistan explicitly said they would recently. Pakistan already has nuclear weapons. This "little" war with Iran could quickly escalate into a much larger war.
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  • *K'eim*... rdmatheny 2012/06/19 03:23:50
    *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg'
    +3
    They also don't like the US Dollar (which is why we went after Saddam and Kaddafi). Who can blame them? Its little better than TP.
  • Michael... mwg0735 2012/06/19 03:45:46
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +2
    and that is EXACTLY what they want you to believe...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    yeah yeah its youtube, but you can also find the movie documentary on netflix. the youtube video is just a bootlegged copy. I hope you take the time to watch mwg.
  • Jackie ... mwg0735 2012/06/19 13:42:57
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    He hasn't - they are twisting his words to suit them.
  • mwg0735 Jackie ... 2012/06/19 14:44:30
  • Jackie ... mwg0735 2012/06/19 14:53:11
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    It is Paul supporters who want Obama back in office to "prove" Paul was a better choice - it has become a sickness
  • mwg0735 Jackie ... 2012/06/19 14:57:39
  • Dodgerfan mwg0735 2012/06/21 21:29:30
    Dodgerfan
    +2
    There's nothing to get over other than we are done with Obamney.
  • mwg0735 Dodgerfan 2012/06/22 01:58:30
  • Cognito22 2012/06/19 01:51:45
    None of the above
    Cognito22
    +4
    War Powers Resolution?

    The War Powers Resolution was disregarded by President Reagan in 1981 by sending military to El Salvador, by President Clinton in 1999, during the bombing campaign in Kosovo, and by President Obama in 2011, when he did not seek congressional approval for the attack on Libyan forces, arguing that the Resolution did not apply to that action, and again when troops entered Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden. All incidents have had congressional disapproval, but none have had any successful legal actions taken against the president for violations. All presidents since 1973 have declared their belief that the act is unconstitutional. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Did he say 'wage war' or 'kinetic military action'?
    He didn't use either term.

    But President Obama used the term 'kinetic military action' for this and everyone seemed to buy in.
    What is it about a Republican President that proposes the same thing but suddenly it's considered 'waging war'?
  • Jackie ... Cognito22 2012/06/19 13:41:23
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    Well said -
  • redhorse29 2012/06/19 00:24:38
    None of the above
    redhorse29
    +1
    This is all a bunch of bunk.
  • rdmatheny 2012/06/19 00:19:35
    What the hell is this country doing now? Electing Dictators?
    rdmatheny
    +3
    From the article:

    Doug Mataconis says it's even worse than Obama's Libya actions.

    If anything this an even more brazen thumb in the eye of Separation of Powers and Congressional War Powers than Obama’s decision to intervene in Libya, which was limited mostly to Americans acting in a support role while the British and French conducted most of the combat operations. What Romney is saying is that he, as President, to decide on his own to commit and act of war on behalf of the United States that nearly every analyst who has looked at the issue concludes poses an extremely high risk of exploding into a wider regional war and/or inspiring acts of terrorism against the United States, Israel, and American interests abroad. Economically, the consequences of such a decision could be catastrophic if it results in the explosion in oil prices that most experts in that field expect would come out of any attack against Iran. And Romney believes that, under the Constitution, he would be perfectly free to make the decision to take that down that road all by himself.
    [...]
    He’s essentially claimed the powers of a dictator, and someone needs to ask him why in the world he thinks an American President should ever have such power.
  • Jackie ... rdmatheny 2012/06/19 13:44:38
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +3
    Oh BS - he never said wage war or that dip sh*t Kenetic junk Obama said, - Nothing even close the speculation in this article
  • MarinerFH 2012/06/18 23:39:30
    None of the above
    MarinerFH
    +3
    We are obligated by treaty. As such, Romney is correct.
  • Jackie ... MarinerFH 2012/06/19 13:44:47
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    Exactly
  • Wild Dog 2012/06/18 23:20:08
    What the hell is this country doing now? Electing Dictators?
    Wild Dog
    +2
    I think the draft dodging POS should take up arms, and do his own dirty work.
  • Wake The Sheeple 2012/06/18 23:03:00
    All of the above
    Wake The Sheeple
    +3
    He said this back in 2007 and yet the sheeple keep falling in line behind him. It doesn't matter which one you vote for, their policies are that of their Bilderberg masters.
  • Steve J~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/18 23:02:12
    None of the above
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    Well, I guess if one like to take statements out of context, then one can come to any conclusion.
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/18 23:05:01
    Wake The Sheeple
    +4
    Look up the video of the 2007 debate where he said twice that he wouldn't consult with Congress and instead he'd consult with the White House lawyers.
  • Steve J... Wake Th... 2012/06/20 00:06:43
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    Of Course. That is what RP would do. If one needs to make a decision NOW! You do as President, and deal with the repercussions later. Because not to do so, could kill Millions of Americans.

    That would be a fail for you.
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/20 00:58:48
    Wake The Sheeple
    +2
    So when do we dare the line on what part of the Constitution is ok to ignore and what part isn't ok to ignore?...
  • Steve J... Wake Th... 2012/06/20 01:15:56
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    When ALL of America is at risk. But, I guess having a Doctor of Medicine as President, would be good, when triage is necessary. I would prefer triage not to BE NECESSARY.

    Just saying.
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/20 01:59:03
    Wake The Sheeple
    The Constitution wasn't only put in place to protect ALL of America, it was written to protect the individual's rights from the majority who would be willing to rob the minority.
  • Steve J... Wake Th... 2012/06/20 16:30:49
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    What does that have to do with waging a war on Iran, especially if they try to launch a nuclear weapon?
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/20 16:40:13
    Wake The Sheeple
    +2
    There is still no proof, even the Pentagon and CIA has admitted such. This is the same scaremongering that led to Vietnam, Iraq, and will it seems inevitably lead to war with Iran. Imperialism is driving the war effort, not fear of nuclear attack.
  • Steve J... Wake Th... 2012/06/20 22:26:02
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    Of course. Now run along.
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/21 03:04:36
    Wake The Sheeple
    +2
    This is my question. Debate the facts & issues or "run along."
  • Steve J... Wake Th... 2012/06/21 14:17:48 (edited)
    Steve J~PWCM~JLA
    When one has convinced themselves they know all, they refuse to listen to facts. So providing them to you is a waste of time and effort.

    You say there is "no proof" what do YOU consider as proof? A nuclear explosion?
  • Wake Th... Steve J... 2012/06/21 21:13:50
    Wake The Sheeple
    +2
    Images, manifests, video, etc, Otherwise its all here say or propaganda.

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