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Midnight Movie Massacre: set up?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/07/21 18:28:54
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Three issues about the Midnight Movie Massacre of July 20, 2012:

1. Why were the media so quick to identify someone without even trying to make sure they had the same James Holmes? ABC-TV found someone with the same first and last names, but a different middle name, and said, "Here's your man!" And ABC-TV's man was a Tea Party guy. How convenient. And now that man is "set up" for death threats.

2. Why were all those politicians ready to roll with more calls for gun control? Did anyone stop to think that maybe--just maybe--if the theater owners let CCW permit holders carry their weapons inside, the Midnight Movie Massacre need never have happened?

3. Can you believe this guy? Where'd he get all those weapons? They cost $20,000. Where'd he get that kind of money? Why did he stop just because one of his guns jammed? (He had other guns; why didn't he use them?) Why'd he set up a music program to play LOUD MUSIC in his apartment from midnight to 1:00 a.m., and even leave his door unlocked? Why did he surrender, when he was armed and armored for a real fight, or even to shoot his way out of there?

Maybe this is what he had in mind...

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/07/21 18:32:08
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +15
    Think about it. The UN Arms Trade Treaty is coming up for signature. We now know that Operation Fast and Furious was all about planting throw-downs in Mexico. Here's another such episode.

    Only his gun jammed. And the tenant who might have barged into the apartment (to say "TURN THAT %&^&% STEREO DOWN!"), didn't. Result: no explosions.

    At the time of posting, the bomb squad has defused the worst of the booby traps. Maybe now the local cops can tell us something. (Whoever else I suspect, I don't suspect them.)

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  • us 2012/08/07 16:34:40
    Undecided
    us
    +2
    but is it possible, yes, so they can push for more Gun control. Shame on them.
  • Geenie Nabottle 2012/07/26 04:37:23
    Undecided
    Geenie Nabottle
    For Shame, Temlakos..... FOR SHAME!
  • Not Einstein 2012/07/25 03:40:23
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    Not Einstein
    +2
    Seriously? Is everything a conspiracy?

    What about the pick up truck with over 2 dozen Hispanics that crashed into not one, but TWO trees, killing at least, what? 13?

    They all had toothbrushes and tooth paste on them, but not one had any ID.

    Conspiracy? Damn right, but who perpetrated it and for what nefarious reason? Rightists, leftists, centrists, Libertarians, tea partiers, jihadists, dentists? Since I'm left of center, I say it was the Tea Party. They wanted all these Hispanics with good dental hygiene killed, so they purposely put two trees in the path of that very overcrowded truck.

    Jesus H Christ, get a life.
  • NYCbrit 2012/07/24 20:07:11
    Undecided
    NYCbrit
    +2
    Doubtful, but anything's possible... now more than ever.
  • Sweet-N-Sour 2012/07/24 18:41:06
    Undecided
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +1
    I'm not ready to say it was a set up, but I am not ready to dismiss the possibility either. It is possible that he did this purposely during certain political crossroads like the UN Arms Treaty for what he thought would help along the process. There are some odd questions surrounding his actions though like the money, the fact that he had no odd behavior before a year or so ago, and certainly no criminal behavior at all. If this guy mysteriously ends up dead at the hand of a cop or especially an FBI agent, we should all start watching more closely.
  • AGPhillbin 2012/07/24 06:09:26
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    AGPhillbin
    To answer your questions:
    1) TV news operates on a very rapid pace, and they often simply get things wrong. Also, the news media generally operates on much slimmer budgets than they used to, and that cuts down on the fact-checking.
    2) Because that's usually when the public is most receptive to calls for more gun control -- when some gun-toting loon kills a bunch of people. Also, what makes you believe the theater didn't allow people with CCW permits carry their weapons inside? I have never been searched at a movie theater. Have you? Maybe no CCW permit holders were there, or they all figured they didn't need it at the movies.
    3) Where did he get the money? Ever heard of credit cards? Why are you asking why a nutcase who says he's the Joker does what he does?
  • Temlako... AGPhillbin 2012/07/25 01:09:16
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    What graduate/medical student has a credit line of twenty thousand dollars? I'm a middle-aged adult and even *I* do not have a credit limit that large!
  • AGPhillbin Temlako... 2012/07/26 03:51:06 (edited)
    AGPhillbin
    I have several credit lines, totalling more than that. And a grad student could easily have a $20,000 bank account, depending on how much he gets from his family (perhaps an inheritance?), plus student loans and grants. He also had work at a day camp, which probably doesn't pay much, but it's something. I don't know what other jobs he's done, but $20,000 combined cash and credit doesn't sound like much for a grad student from an upper middle class family. I know nothing about his family, of course.
  • Scully+... Temlako... 2012/07/31 05:47:01 (edited)
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    You must have missed the memo. The approximate value of the weapons and ammo is $3,000, not the wildly inflated figure you keep throwing out.
  • aneed2know 2012/07/24 05:54:55
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    aneed2know
    +1
    i have one question for you. Are you a NRA conspiracy nut, or lone conspiracy nut?
  • Temlako... aneed2know 2012/07/25 01:10:02
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    I'm just looking at the inconsistencies, and seeking whom the crime would profit.
  • aneed2know Temlako... 2012/07/25 05:44:22
    aneed2know
    +1
    It profits the man who committed the act.
  • AGPhillbin aneed2know 2012/07/26 03:52:57
    AGPhillbin
    How does this senseless crime profit the loon who committed it?
  • aneed2know AGPhillbin 2012/07/26 04:00:23
    aneed2know
    +1
    and that is question now isn't it. Why, what for and what ever W questions you can think of. Maybe he just wanted to see what it would be like to kill, i dont know. But he is a nut case. But hey when you find out call the authorities and let them know.
  • sean 2012/07/24 01:15:21
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    sean
    +2
    OUR GOVERNMENT WOULD NEVER HARM ITS CITIZENS..REALLY ? JFK..RFK..MLK..911..AND HB 15090 was the Appropriation for 1970, 10 million federal reserve notes, to the department of defense to create the hiv, aids virus
  • us sean 2012/08/07 16:38:45
    us
    that interesting about aids virus, I know we made anthrax here.
  • sean us 2012/08/08 00:58:19
    sean
    +1
    i have read where the government has developed a new type of hiv, aids, that is air bourne, the list is too long to post http://www.freerepublic.com/f...
  • us sean 2012/08/16 03:50:37
    us
    +1
    that sad, when people think of things hurt others.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/23 12:37:13
    Undecided
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    +2
    There is definitely more to this story than we know. But the "gun control" issues ring loudest, as "they" (gun haters in office) have already been caught with their pants down trying to rig public perception of gun rights. Eric Holder, our Attorney General, has made it clear throughout his life that his vendetta against guns is his life's work.

    WATCH:
    http://youtu.be/0nM0asnCXD0
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/07/22 23:58:44 (edited)
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    **StarzAbove**
    This was a psycho killer bent on killing others and he did it. No consipiracy here at all. It is what it is.

    It just amazes me why people jump to conclusions and make something like this a conspiracy. This jerk needs to take the blame himself.
  • cc 2012/07/22 23:03:31
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    cc
    +3
    It's very possible that the government had some knowledge and perhaps even active support in this. It's also very possible that he acted alone. It's hard to amass that much ammo, guns and explosives and not attract the attention of the ATF or FBI.
    We'll learn more as time goes by though. We do know that the government enabled weapons to be sold to Mexican drug cartels. I am convinced that the government was complicit in both World Trade Center attacks, Oklahoma City, and the USS Cole to some extent.
    Remember that Yassir Arafat spent more time in the White House than any other foreign diplomat in US history. That is a lot of time to communicate and pass messages back and forth from White House to middle east contacts.
    Don't put anything past the Clintons. They have a long sordid past with hundreds of mysterious deaths haunting their history.
    This event happening just days before a vote on a UN resolution does not surprise me in the least.
  • Dan 2012/07/22 22:39:17
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    Dan
    +3
    I usually never fall for gimmicks or wild conspiracy theories BUT Obama scares the hell out of me.
  • Ken 2012/07/22 22:12:40
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    Ken
    +2
    The media entices these actions by glorifying them with coverage.
  • CHUCK 2012/07/22 21:41:50
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    CHUCK
    +2
    STUPID PEOPLE EXPECT STUPID PEOPLE TO BELIEVE..

    911 GUN
  • Rusty Bubbles 2012/07/22 21:03:54
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    Rusty Bubbles
    +2
    Too early to really pin this tail on the donkey.....but the possibility has crossed my mind
  • XQNP 2012/07/22 20:22:35
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    XQNP
    1. Because they're the media, and thrive on blaming people they disagree with politically. Every network does it.

    2. Because these politicians honestly believe that gun control will stop the problem. It's also worth noting that many government officials, including Colorado governor John Hickenlooper, oppose a further increase in gun control due to this tragedy.

    3. 20,000 is a lot for most people, but if you're literally blowing all of your life savings on something (which you can reasonably expect this guy to have done, as he can't have thought he'd get away with it) you can afford to splurge. And he didn't stop when his first gun jammed, but instead switched to a second, much less effective one. He left loud music on and his door unlocked because his apartment was booby trapped to kill anyone who tried to enter, which means he was hoping to kill even more. And let's face it, he was only shooting unarmed civilians up to that point. Firing at the cops would have been a death sentence.
  • Scully+... XQNP 2012/07/31 06:01:28
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    Looking at your 3rd point: The actual value of his weapons is more like $3,000, not the crazy inflated figure given in the original post.
  • XQNP Scully+... 2012/07/31 07:49:06
    XQNP
    Thanks! I appreciate the help.
  • Scully+... XQNP 2012/07/31 08:26:15
    Scully+MulderWereRight
    Glad to help. (I've got your back! ;-/ )
  • DISCO 2012/07/22 20:01:07
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    DISCO
    +1
    Sure is ironic that the United Nations is about to pass a small arms treaty. I think the government gave this killer some drugs that made him want to kill. I know it sounds crazy but it is well known fact that Obama wants to get rid of weapons so when chaos and mayhem hiits the streets the military will have a easy time placing people in concentrattion camps
  • munda 2012/07/22 19:26:57
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    munda
    The media is always quick to jump just so they can be the first to report or get that exclusive scoop. They don't care about reporting facts only getting viewers.
    Politicians are always waiting for something they can bang their drums for, they are snakes after all.
  • jeepster4 2012/07/22 19:26:08
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    jeepster4
    +1
    Even the other true believers think that this is the silliest conspiracy theory yet.
  • tom 2012/07/22 17:45:10
    No set-up; he did this on his own, including the weapons training.
    tom
    +3
    I figured it would only be a matter of time before people started crying conspiracy.
  • Lady Wh... tom 2012/07/22 19:46:43
    Lady Whitewolf
    Yup
  • Lee 2012/07/22 15:03:29 (edited)
    Undecided
    Lee
    +2
    Come on, the guy is most likely just one more Right Wing Nut Job piece of garbage on a murder spree.

    Nothing new about that.

    There was no set up, unless you're talking about the rhetoric of the Right Wing, which advocates the liberal availability of weaponry to everyone.

    And then of course, there is the Right Wing propensity for harming this nation.

    Maybe James Holmes figured he could harm the nation more efficiently by just skipping the process of voting RWNJ scum into office, and just shoot people down instead of letting Right Wing politics kill us off slowly.

    James Holmes is probably just one more RWNJ "Patriot" out to harm America.

    There are millions of them out there.
  • mach Lee 2012/07/22 15:43:36
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/22 15:01:18 (edited)
    Yes, and the government set this up to plump for more gun control.
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    12 murders MS Clinton; is it worth their lives to scare The Congress to sign away Constitutional Powers to an entity like the UN?

    This had sure better not be connected. Could The "Boy" have gotten his hands in that special "Fast and Furious" Ammo. Like Lee Harvey Oswald the police who were hovering close by had a target drawn on "Holmes" from the top.

    20 K and more is a lot of cash for a guy living on Unemployment to be spending on killing people.ideas , You guys have a LIAR. in your midst, the numbers don't jive and the Special Military AMMO is a dead giveaway. Finally, why did the US Government send 100 plus agents to Aurora in less than an hour?????????????????????????...
  • Lee jackola... 2012/07/22 16:18:55
    Lee
    As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

    An AR-15 was his primay weapon, and it's easy to get military ammo for it.

    It's .223 caliber, like my ruger Mini-14, and I can pick up 5.56 millimeter NATO rounds at my local army surplus center, and I use them strictly for targtet practice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Those rounds aren't very good for killing in my opinion, at least not for killing game.

    They are steel jacketed, and they punch a whole right throgh the animal, and a deer can run for miles with a wound like that.

    The best for killing game are .223 rounds that flaten out on impact, thus making a big gaping wound, and not a neat little puncture only .223 inches in diameter.

    The steel jacketed military rounds are pretty fun though, because they can punch right through fence posts. I think the military uses them because they can pass more easily through obstacles, like a car door, without flattnening out.

    Im guessing the RWNJ thug, James Holmes, would have had a much higher kill ratio if he had forgone the military 5.56 NATO ammo, and instead bought some .223 rounds designed for hunting.

    If he had, many more of those wounded people would have died.

    So although he may have been brilliant for a Right Wing Nut Job, he still wasn't smart enough or experienced enoug...

    As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

    An AR-15 was his primay weapon, and it's easy to get military ammo for it.

    It's .223 caliber, like my ruger Mini-14, and I can pick up 5.56 millimeter NATO rounds at my local army surplus center, and I use them strictly for targtet practice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Those rounds aren't very good for killing in my opinion, at least not for killing game.

    They are steel jacketed, and they punch a whole right throgh the animal, and a deer can run for miles with a wound like that.

    The best for killing game are .223 rounds that flaten out on impact, thus making a big gaping wound, and not a neat little puncture only .223 inches in diameter.

    The steel jacketed military rounds are pretty fun though, because they can punch right through fence posts. I think the military uses them because they can pass more easily through obstacles, like a car door, without flattnening out.

    Im guessing the RWNJ thug, James Holmes, would have had a much higher kill ratio if he had forgone the military 5.56 NATO ammo, and instead bought some .223 rounds designed for hunting.

    If he had, many more of those wounded people would have died.

    So although he may have been brilliant for a Right Wing Nut Job, he still wasn't smart enough or experienced enough to know what ammo kills best.

    Dumb A$$ Right Wingers can't do anything very well . . . Can they?
    (more)
  • D D 2012/07/22 14:49:13
    Undecided
    D D
    I really don't know. It sure is funny though.

    funny
  • jackola... D D 2012/07/22 15:12:21
    jackolantyrn356
    +1
    How staged it really looks

    If the UN and Ms Clinton really wanted "real Gun Murder to stop" they would assign every Man/ woman etc to having a firearm strapped o their hips every day. The statistics are more than convincing that an "Armed Public is a Safe and Free Public." It is obvious Ms Clinton and the UN as well as he who is called "Obummer" have not so free plans" for America.
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