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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/08/17 19:04:13
Israel will win
Egypt will win
Iran will win
War will not come
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The war drums are beating all the time.

In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood has removed most of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. In Mohammed Mursi, you see another Jamal abd al-Nasr ("Nasser").

In Iran, they're celebrating Al-Qods Day. That's "Jerusalem Day." And they mean to take Jerusalem for themselves.

Syria is a total basket case, but you've got Al-Qa'ida operating there, and looking for the chemical weapons.

Lebanon and Gaza have tons of missiles, ready to let fly.

And in Israel, the people are lining up for their gas masks and antidote kits.

So once again: who will win?

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  • Adam 2012/12/09 15:12:10
    Undecided
    Adam
    Define, "Win". All players will continue to act in a way that benefits them the best, while making concessions that there opponents can force upon them because not conceding will be too costly. Israel will remain in place because they have powerful friends. Other countries can't afford open war. A lot of collateral damage will be done, and lives ruined, while all the players try to squeeze a better position, but a straight up boots on the ground war seems not impossible, but unlikely. Of course, that's not a lot on consolation for the people in a metaphorical stranglehold, or the people killed or wounded in acts of terrorism. Israel are hardly immaculate saints, and they know it, but the whole region is going to keep circling the drain as long as we have extremist elements like Hamas out there, representing the innocent and the desperate by manipulating them into acting against their self-interest.
  • Pedalpusher 2012/08/19 19:16:52
    War will not come
    Pedalpusher
    +3
    My first choice is for peace without war. But if they go to war I think Israel will show them that Iran and Egypt underestimated their adversaries! And I would hope by then Obama is out of office and they will have our full support! Obama claims to be a Christian, well this would tell, as the Bible says we are to stand behind and support Israel as they are the chosen people.
  • jcadla 2012/08/19 17:33:56
    Undecided
    jcadla
    +4
    Actually, I'm not undecided but I had to choose to make a comment. The Middle East is a real quandary for the US. Our only friend there is Israel but we have ourselves embroiled in a real mess with almost all the other nations there. We did what was necessary in Iraq and we did what was necessary in Afghanistan,-that was the right thing to do...then we stayed there,-that is the wrong thing to do. Israel is in the worse position it has been in for many years. The reason it is so bad is because Israel has always known it could count on it's staunchest ally, (only ally) the US, for support. With Barack Obama, there is no longer that assurance. OK, are you ready for this?????

    The United States should bring all our troops home, cut off all financial aid to ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES, and put the world on notice: "Any attack or threat of an attack on Israel will bring Immediate retaliation from the US,-In force and absolute. Remember, folks, that area is ALL MUSLIM AND THEY WANT US DEAD! ...The Pakistani police, our 'friends,' are killing American soldiers as I speak, using weapons we gave them. We have no friends in the Middle East except Israel.

    We need to be energy self sufficient, no more oil from our enemies, the Muslims. If we begin to produce our own oil and etc right now, we ca...


    Actually, I'm not undecided but I had to choose to make a comment. The Middle East is a real quandary for the US. Our only friend there is Israel but we have ourselves embroiled in a real mess with almost all the other nations there. We did what was necessary in Iraq and we did what was necessary in Afghanistan,-that was the right thing to do...then we stayed there,-that is the wrong thing to do. Israel is in the worse position it has been in for many years. The reason it is so bad is because Israel has always known it could count on it's staunchest ally, (only ally) the US, for support. With Barack Obama, there is no longer that assurance. OK, are you ready for this?????

    The United States should bring all our troops home, cut off all financial aid to ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES, and put the world on notice: "Any attack or threat of an attack on Israel will bring Immediate retaliation from the US,-In force and absolute. Remember, folks, that area is ALL MUSLIM AND THEY WANT US DEAD! ...The Pakistani police, our 'friends,' are killing American soldiers as I speak, using weapons we gave them. We have no friends in the Middle East except Israel.

    We need to be energy self sufficient, no more oil from our enemies, the Muslims. If we begin to produce our own oil and etc right now, we can be once again a POWERFUL, FEARED NATION as we should be. Right now we bow to the Muslims and cringe back in fear from China and Russia. This is crazy and our President is doing his best to see we continue to be subservient to the world. Muslims are killing Christians at will the world over and we need to STOP IT RIGHT NOW before it gets to our own country. THEY CELEBRATE EVERY TIME A CHRISTIAN OR AMERICAN IS KILLED,-RIGHT HERE IN THIS COUNTRY...JUST AS THEY CELEBRATED ON 9/11 RIGHT HERE IN THE STREETS OF THE US!
    We need to stop being cowards and resume our rightful place in the World, at the top, without question. We need to remove all Muslims from our nation...their Koran says they are in an eternal jihad with us and MUST CONVERT, SUBDUE OR KILL US ALL!

    Now, before some of you go off the deep end about my comment, study the Koran for yourself. They hate us and want to kill us, the great Satan and Israel. Prove me a liar (you can't) and I will never comment again. Now, Wake up and be a patriot!!!
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  • S* 2012/08/19 15:48:54
    Undecided
    S*
    No one will win.
  • Kat 2012/08/19 14:23:22
    Israel will win
    Kat
    +3
    They pray for peace and prepare for war......God's chosen people
  • MusicMan 2012/08/19 13:43:35
    Undecided
    MusicMan
    War is most definitely coming soon, but where and how it will end - who knows?
  • GrooVy 2012/08/19 12:40:11 (edited)
    War will not come
    GrooVy
    +4
    Look what we can do in just 6 days!

    I love being Jewish

    Israel would seriously kick Iran off the planet, except we are just too polite to be rude! =)
  • kfallslady 2012/08/19 02:54:29
    Undecided
    kfallslady
    We need to pull all our troops from there, they are turning against us as we speak, killing 10 or more of our people each day, now they say all military need to carry guns on base or not duh! lets just bomb them all, they know not peace and never will, till the end of time then God will take over
  • Deere Guy 2012/08/18 19:17:15
    Israel will win
    Deere Guy
    +7
    One can be rest assured Netanyahu WILL NOT allow Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon....either they will attack or possibly send commandos in the wee hours of the morning and take over their nuclear facilities....Israel will win......
  • GrooVy Deere Guy 2012/08/19 12:46:54 (edited)
    GrooVy
    +2
    I love the thought and idea but I doubt it will go to war. Us Jews are too good at solving complex problems, quietly. I think we would send in some of our top commandos 1st.

    Iran is too stupid to be much more then an annoying bother.
  • Deere Guy GrooVy 2012/08/19 17:55:54
    Deere Guy
    +1
    I agree, but nuclear black mail is another issue....the commandos I agree on........
  • meme14 2012/08/18 16:49:20
    Undecided
    meme14
    I wish there could be a peaceful resolution but It seems like all of those efforts have repeatedly failed. I worry about weapons of mass destruction...there are no winners only losers -
  • GrooVy meme14 2012/08/19 12:54:34
    GrooVy
    When you die, you win. =D
    While you're alive, you work to make the correct decisions that shape the next generation!
  • jimmie 2012/08/18 15:50:26
    Undecided
    jimmie
    Israel has Nukes and they won't hesitate to us them, They are a very cold and calculateing people. World war 2 taught them well, They have become the very people they hate. That is why they can't forgive the few war crimanals left. I,ve learned one thing, Don't turn your back on them. Israel will be the end of the world I fear.
  • GrooVy jimmie 2012/08/19 12:51:39
    GrooVy
    +1
    It is not cold and calculating to look out for your civilians own best interest. Just look at the response of America after 9-11!

    We don't forgive war criminals, because they are WAR CRIMINALS!

    Israel is not the end of the world, but the beginning! =) [Check your bible if you doubt it!]
  • fuzzy K... jimmie 2012/08/20 20:10:37
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    +2
    What makes you think that Israel "won't hesitate to us them" (nukes)?
    They were attacked by 11 countries and the PLO in 1967 and four countries' armies backed by six different countries including the USSR in 1973 and yet they NEVER even threatened, let alone used nukes.

    History proves you to be a dumbass.
  • voice_matters 2012/08/18 15:18:00
    Undecided
    voice_matters
    +1
    all depends on who the usa backs
  • jimmie voice_m... 2012/08/18 15:56:11
    jimmie
    +1
    We spend Billions of dollars to keep Israel in check, You want to end the deficet , Stop sending them money not to start wars. and see how long they go without useing there Nukes, Why do you think Iran wants Nukes so bad. They can;t attack without a balance of power.
  • voice_m... jimmie 2012/08/18 15:57:58
    voice_matters
    +4
    another ignorant lib blocked. thanks for showing your ignorance prevents you to read what people write. at no time did i say to start a war.
  • GrooVy jimmie 2012/08/19 13:11:54 (edited)
    GrooVy
    +1
    Seriously, "jimmie" try using F7 for a spell check for your typos and maybe an encyclopedia for your facts! We support our friends and ALLIES! This has always been the way countries work. What has Iran done for America ever? We don't even nearly send Israel all the funds that is just taxes on Jewish investments.

    Jews helped build America!
    Iran tried to destroy America.
    It's not really a difficult choice who the USA will side with!

    Sorry to have to tell you but my dog wins!
    I bought him this classic 3 story, 36 ton yacht just for his friendship!
    My Dog Gets a 3 Story Yacht for his Service
    What did you get yours, a George W. speech printout on newspaper to chew on? LOL.
  • GrooVy voice_m... 2012/08/19 13:19:19
    GrooVy
    +1
    Jews helped build America!
    Iran tried to destroy America.
    It's not really a difficult choice who the USA will side with!
  • voice_m... GrooVy 2012/08/19 14:39:10
    voice_matters
    blah blah blah
  • Indepen... voice_m... 2012/08/23 17:38:16
    Independent Thinker
    +1
    Very constructive and definitely contributes to the debate - yipes!
  • voice_m... Indepen... 2012/08/23 17:43:57
    voice_matters
    what debate? notice you are not offering anything to debate
  • Indepen... voice_m... 2012/08/23 17:50:40
    Independent Thinker
    +1
    My comment is below. My response is to the original question.

    Your comment is gibberish. It offers no solution (or opinion).

    It speaks to who you are - someone who is about attack and unable to offer insight other than respond in childish fashion.
  • voice_m... Indepen... 2012/08/23 18:14:01
    voice_matters
    notice you are not offering anything to debate
  • Indepen... voice_m... 2012/08/24 00:13:46
    Independent Thinker
    A debate is when someone like myself (see comment below) offers an opinion and you accept or refute my argument.

    The original question was about war in the middle-east (specifically when).

    Your back/forth with the person above me (e.g., groovy) was the gibberish, but I'm sure you understand all that.

    I do realize many come on sodahead to vent frustration and contribute to mean-spirited talk. Obviously you are one of them.
  • voice_m... Indepen... 2012/08/24 16:54:20
    voice_matters
    notice you are not offering anything to debate
  • Indepen... voice_m... 2012/08/24 19:01:59
    Independent Thinker
    If you want debate reread my original comment (no cutting and pasting here.....all you need to do is slide up your cursor) and comment on a point. I will respond with courtesy and not with "blah" vocab words.

    Of course if you want to keep sharing the same old, same old, comment the verdict is in and your actions have spoke.

    If that is the case please move on. I would prefer to talk with serious people, not mockers.
  • voice_m... Indepen... 2012/08/24 19:10:37
    voice_matters
    notice you are not offering anything to debate
  • Indepen... voice_m... 2012/08/24 19:29:20
    Independent Thinker
    Your voice has spoken. It is clear. This conversation of foolishness is over.
  • voice_m... Indepen... 2012/08/24 19:31:01
    voice_matters
    as long as you are posting the foolishness will continue.
  • Independent Thinker 2012/08/18 14:51:07
    Israel will win
    Independent Thinker
    +6
    I know the region first-hand.

    Israel understands their existance is determined by the outcome. They will fight to the last breath.

    Egypt is radical and makes mistakes because as a group they do not plan, they react.

    Iran is extreme (bullies). They have ego (making bold comments); they remind me of radicals like Ceausecu or Idid Amin. In they end they make a lot of noise but are their own worse enemies.Iran is an island unto itself.

    Syria does not understand the bigger picture. In the end they will be defeated because they are weak because they do not understand their own failings.
  • Cat 2012/08/18 14:24:19
    Israel will win
    Cat
    +4
    So long as God looks favorably upon the behavior of Israel, they can't loose.
    The US should provide no more help than Russia and China are providing Iran, which usually only amounts to satellite images, intel reports and sometimes more ammo.
    If Iran or anyone else attacks our assets, bases ships etc, or attacks merchant shipping or closes the Hormuz Strait, we must react appropriately.
  • jimmie Cat 2012/08/18 15:58:29
    jimmie
    What about all the Nukes we gave them. Do you think they won't use them.
  • Cat jimmie 2012/08/18 16:52:35
    Cat
    +2
    As a last resort, if they have some. Are you sure that they do?
  • Defend ... jimmie 2012/08/18 17:01:51
    Defend Western Civlization
    +3
    we did not give them any nukes
    what ever Israel has will be used as a last resort to fend off the savages at the gates
  • Deere Guy jimmie 2012/08/18 19:20:03
    Deere Guy
    +3
    Only the Neutron bomb......maybe tactical nuclear weapons.....they would never use an A bomb unless absolutely backed in the corner.....only if it meant their ultimate survival....Israel is not dumb by any means......
  • akhippie 2012/08/18 13:06:33
    Undecided
    akhippie
    +3
    When, not if, this war starts their will be no winners only losers. If it happens after Jan. 2013 Isreal and it's #1 ally will prevail, if it happens before that Isreal will have to prevail on their own because I do not think obama will show the support for our #1 ally in the region that he should. When the war starts it needs to be a swift and thorough project and not to be altered until all objectives are met. Can Isreal do it alone, I am not a military strategist so I don't know. I say let's put someone in the White House so they don't have to go it alone. The #1 objective is Iran shall not have nuclear weapons!
  • jimmie akhippie 2012/08/18 16:02:26
    jimmie
    Because Isreal allready does have Nuclear weapons that the U.s. Meaning George Bush, Gave them.
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