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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/10/20 01:29:28
Pull out of the Middle East completely.
Reserve our aid for Israel alone.
Our involvement could be improved but is necessary.
Stay the course.
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An activist with the Constitution Party reminds us sharply: American policy in the Middle East has been a disaster. That disaster predates Obama, though Obama most certainly compounded it.

He asks: what have we gained from intervening militarily in the Middle East? The situation on the ground for Christians and Jews, in Iraq, Afghanistan, and especially in Egypt and Libya, has gotten worse, not better for our adventures in those countries.

The author notes that Mitt Romney wants to arm the rebels in Syria. On the eve of the Third Presidential Debate, it's worth asking: is that wise? Do we even know who those rebels are?

What say you? Better to clear out now, before we make a bad situation even worse?

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  • jean 2012/10/20 02:17:01
    Reserve our aid for Israel alone.
    jean
    +15
    The only country in the Middle East that can be trusted is Israel.

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  • DefendnProtect 2012/10/24 20:56:52
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    DefendnProtect
    +1
    Stop being a puppet of Israhell!

    Stop supporting supremacist fascist Apartheid terrorists.

    fascist supremacist

    Stop supporting people who corrupt US gov, US MSM and US banking.
    corruption to the core

    Stop supporting terrorists
    terrrorr

    911
  • sam123 2012/10/22 23:04:08
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    sam123
    +2
    best option
  • Dan 2012/10/22 01:00:20
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    Dan
    +6
    We need to get out of the Middle East and let it rot. They can drink their oil for all I care.
  • Wally-Molon Labe! 2012/10/21 13:20:10
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    Wally-Molon Labe!
    +6
    Do you think anyone in America is making decisions as to where we are and what we are doing? This is a globalist chess game and countries are dropping like flies. Syria and Iran remain and the former will not remain for much longer.

    What you war monger morons can't see is that America is also in their sights. Our dollar is almost dead and worthless and inflation will bite you all in the arse as the end of the year approaches.

    Take your rose colored glasses off and look around. Does everything seem good to you?
  • irish -... Wally-M... 2012/10/21 15:02:44
    irish -liberty or death!
    +4
    they are draining the u.s. its almost dry!
  • Bureauc 0webama 2012/10/21 03:06:27
    Undecided
    Bureauc 0webama
    +2
    I like Romney's plan for N. American energy independence. I Stand by Israel.
    My policy for the remainder of the mid east is to and make sure both sides have equal number of bullets. Sunis/Sheites, Syria/Rebels and so on.
  • FairLady 2012/10/21 01:37:06
    Reserve our aid for Israel alone.
    FairLady
    +4
    Temlakos, it's indeed a total disaster. No doubt.
    Obama is a total failure , all the way around - internally in the USA and internationally..

    He attracted more enemies and scared away our allies.
  • irish -liberty or death! 2012/10/20 21:06:04
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    irish -liberty or death!
    +5
    this is destroying this country. if mittens wants to go to war lets get him outfitted and drop him in the middle of the fighting. he can get back to us about it.
    the entire attempted take over of the middle east has one goal in mind,control of natural energy sources. it has nothing to do with religions etc . thats obfuscation. our govt has been lying to us for decades!
  • Jack Sprat 2012/10/20 20:19:26 (edited)
    Our involvement could be improved but is necessary.
    Jack Sprat
    +4
    Unfortunately, we have to be there, even among our enemies, but we should cut aid and demand more for our dollar. We kept Egypt 'engaged' by that and there hasn't been a full war for the last 30 years. If w aren't "engaged" in "enemy" countries, intell is harder to come by.

    Sadly we have to play the game by the rules many others make.

    Israel has to be our prime concern though. period.
  • irish -... Jack Sprat 2012/10/20 21:07:20
    irish -liberty or death!
    +5
    what garbage! we don't "have to be" anywhere we don't choose to be. we are occupying,not engaging. think about it.
    screw israel ,its a troublemaker .
  • Jack Sprat irish -... 2012/10/21 01:05:43
    Jack Sprat
    +2
    as as to your opinion, I can find it on any radical terrorist web site in the world. Now go back and wonder why the American people has rejected the pint sized bafoon who may be able to run a check book, but has no soul or a shot at being anything but a laughing stock and the butt of jokes.



    And at some point show how ignorant you really are, show me where we are occupying any where, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Tunis, Egypt, Yemen, Somalia, Lebanon, Syria, just were the hell are we "occupying"?
  • irish -... Jack Sprat 2012/10/21 12:20:56
    irish -liberty or death!
    +5
    hardly . you clueless people seem to have real problems discerning what the truth is and what it isn't.
    the american people didn't reject ron paul ,obtuse maroon! it was the elite that you all seem to like being slaves to.
    america is the laughing stock of the world for their false democracy and govt. only americans,the majority of them,keep thinking that they are superior to everyone else. arrogant and distasteful is how you are seen.

    i suggest you look up what occupation means. having bases in other countries is what occupying forces do. but then you wouldn't understand that ,would you?

    https://nsnbc.files.wordpress...
  • Jack Sprat irish -... 2012/10/21 23:38:44
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    So move to Iran and do the freedom fighting if you don't get killed you'd end up in prison.

    We give massive amounts to foreign aid to maintain those bases, at their pleasure, they can ask us to leave at any time, like the Phillipines and other countries have, or ask us to stay and limit our movement in the countries, like Saudi Arabia, and other arab states have.

    Definition of OCCUPATION
    1a : an activity in which one engages b : the principal business of one's life : vocation
    2a : the possession, use, or settlement of land : occupancy b : the holding of an office or position
    3a : the act or process of taking possession of a place or area : seizure b : the holding and control of an area by a foreign military force c : the military force occupying a country or the policies carried out by it

    We do neither, next time you use a source, please pick a less biased one, like the "daily kooks"

    America is the only representitive democracy left that is some what functional, the laughing is at the "man chile' who would be king.......




    But then this delusional moron has most of the same foreign policy measures Paul has.
  • irish -... Jack Sprat 2012/10/22 11:09:22
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    LOL you air heads always see that as a solution,why? move to another country just because those of us who understand whats going on point it out to those of you who are hysterically clueless??

    well lets see,many countries have said get out ,but the govt doesn't do it.

    Paul Wolfowitz discussed US bases in an interview with the New York Times. "Their function may be more political than actually military," he explained. US bases "send a message to everybody, including important countries like Uzbekistan, that we have a capacity to come back in and will come back in."


    According to the Pentagon, there are approximately 865 US military bases abroad—over 1,000 if new bases in Iraq and Afghanistan are included. The cost? $102 billion annually—and that doesn’t include the costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan bases.

    In a recent Italian documentary Standing Army, the late author and Nation contributor Chalmers Johnson says, “The unit of empire in the classic European empires was the colony. The unit for the American empire is not the colony, it’s the military base.

    just recently the japanese told d.c. they want the military bases out of japan.
    2 reasons the u.s. has over 600 bases occupying other countries :
    1) Control of as much of the world’s economy...
    LOL you air heads always see that as a solution,why? move to another country just because those of us who understand whats going on point it out to those of you who are hysterically clueless??

    well lets see,many countries have said get out ,but the govt doesn't do it.

    Paul Wolfowitz discussed US bases in an interview with the New York Times. "Their function may be more political than actually military," he explained. US bases "send a message to everybody, including important countries like Uzbekistan, that we have a capacity to come back in and will come back in."


    According to the Pentagon, there are approximately 865 US military bases abroad—over 1,000 if new bases in Iraq and Afghanistan are included. The cost? $102 billion annually—and that doesn’t include the costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan bases.

    In a recent Italian documentary Standing Army, the late author and Nation contributor Chalmers Johnson says, “The unit of empire in the classic European empires was the colony. The unit for the American empire is not the colony, it’s the military base.

    just recently the japanese told d.c. they want the military bases out of japan.
    2 reasons the u.s. has over 600 bases occupying other countries :
    1) Control of as much of the world’s economy and financial markets as possible.
    2) The taking over of as many natural resources, that is primary resources and nonrenewable sources of energy as possible.
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  • Jack Sprat irish -... 2012/10/22 19:52:36
    Jack Sprat
    +2
    You do know that Lyndon LaRouche never made it to any substantial position in the government, if any at all, and calling him Ron Paul, won't mak any difference.

    Hey FYI, try decaf, "K"
  • irish -... Jack Sprat 2012/10/22 20:35:09
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    typical hater response. no substance,no knowledge,just nasty remarks.
  • Jack Sprat irish -... 2012/10/23 19:48:08
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    I've given you answers in detail, you keep regurgitating the same crap, no thanks. A base is not "a unit of empire", I don't give a crap what some "reeducated cold warrior" mush head says it is.

    Earth to "well you" ...... this just in

    "U.S. To Hand Over Iraq Bases, Equipment Worth Billions

    ....There were 505 U.S. military bases and outposts in Iraq at the height of operations, said Col. Barry Johnson, a spokesman for U.S. forces in Iraq. Only 39 are still in U.S. hands -- but that includes each of the largest bases, meaning the most significant handovers are yet to come. ....."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    Afghanistan is an "on going" conflict, soon to "wind down" when we get a competent president, even marginally, we will leave behind a stable islamic government, not the one we would want, but one that we won't have to re-invade. Do we need "posts" in europe, not as many as we may have, unless Putin is in fact reconstituting the USSR empire, which was trying to take over the world and create a traditional "land ownership".

    The rest of the KOOKs stuff, tell me when after the '50's, we had "ownership of the japanese economy? They and Germany would not have come close to tanking our dollar in the '80's and early '90's if that were true.

    All I see is an infantil...



    I've given you answers in detail, you keep regurgitating the same crap, no thanks. A base is not "a unit of empire", I don't give a crap what some "reeducated cold warrior" mush head says it is.

    Earth to "well you" ...... this just in

    "U.S. To Hand Over Iraq Bases, Equipment Worth Billions

    ....There were 505 U.S. military bases and outposts in Iraq at the height of operations, said Col. Barry Johnson, a spokesman for U.S. forces in Iraq. Only 39 are still in U.S. hands -- but that includes each of the largest bases, meaning the most significant handovers are yet to come. ....."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    Afghanistan is an "on going" conflict, soon to "wind down" when we get a competent president, even marginally, we will leave behind a stable islamic government, not the one we would want, but one that we won't have to re-invade. Do we need "posts" in europe, not as many as we may have, unless Putin is in fact reconstituting the USSR empire, which was trying to take over the world and create a traditional "land ownership".

    The rest of the KOOKs stuff, tell me when after the '50's, we had "ownership of the japanese economy? They and Germany would not have come close to tanking our dollar in the '80's and early '90's if that were true.

    All I see is an infantile conspiracy rumors from some half pint follower of Lyndon LaRouche, someone I've checked off as a whack job 30 years ago, you seem to think the "benign little Ross Perot 2.0" is a brand new sparkling penny. apparently you are too young to know what you're talking about or too lost in the insanity of the LaRouche bomb bunker mentality. You sure as hell don't show yourself anything but a completely ignorant about Israel and it's importance, you didn't seem to know that it was LBJ who forced the Israeli's to sink our own ship, like the trumpeted up Gulf of Tonkin crap he pulled.

    If you want me to take you seriously, quit the insane posting of redundant lies about the "American Empire", that is a load of crap from beginning to end.

    Now have a nice day and go away, you're only embarrassing yourself.
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  • irish -... Jack Sprat 2012/10/23 19:55:02
    irish -liberty or death!
    +2
    sock puppet alert! you only regurgitate the propaganda.
  • Jack Sprat irish -... 2012/10/23 20:28:35
  • l 2012/10/20 19:38:47
    Our involvement could be improved but is necessary.
    l
    +2
    Our Government/President needs experts on the Middle East and elsewhere and a Government/President that respects and acts on their expert opinions! I believe our involement is necessary and needs to be handled with a very delicate balance! The majority of people in these countries want peace and prosperity just like everyone else!
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2012/10/20 17:06:34
    Pull out of the Middle East completely.
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    +6
    Pull out now. We've wasted enough lives and treasure in that sewer.




    middle east hell
  • mimi 2012/10/20 14:53:16
    Reserve our aid for Israel alone.
    mimi
    +6
    Israel is God's chosen land. We BETTER support them. Obama is proving he is Muslim by showing his hate for them. Romney will not do that.
  • jimmy mimi 2012/10/20 16:41:53
    jimmy
    +4
    ABSOLUTELY
  • ConLibF... jimmy 2012/10/21 00:40:28
    ConLibFraud
    +6
    I would respond to your buddy but she had spit on the 1st Amendment and blocked me.

    Where does it say that Israel is God's chosen land?
  • Israel ConLibF... 2012/10/21 09:35:59
    Israel
    +1
    Bible for a start. And Jews were on the land long before Christ.
  • ConLibF... Israel 2012/10/21 10:05:49
    ConLibFraud
    +6
    I didn't ask you! But since you butted in. Are you referring to that book that was written and rewritten by man? LOL! Jews didn't exist before Christ! LOL!!! I bet you fell for the fake bin laden kill last year too!!!! LMAO!!!
  • Israel ConLibF... 2012/10/21 14:31:19 (edited)
    Israel
    +1
    Yes Jews did exist before Jesus. Not very good on history are you?
    They can prove it archeologically, and historically.
    Take your anti-semitism and shove it up your ass.
  • Jack Sprat Israel 2012/10/23 20:29:11
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    Bigots don't have to be, they just need to hate.
  • jimmy ConLibF... 2012/10/21 13:20:19
    jimmy
    +2
    Gee the last time i check it was in the old testament.
  • ConLibF... jimmy 2012/10/21 14:31:40
    ConLibFraud
    +5
    Are you talking about that book that was written and rewritten by man?
  • irish -... jimmy 2012/10/21 15:04:20
    irish -liberty or death!
    +4
    so,you think a almighty god likes one group of humans it created better than the rest? and this group is a racist,murdering bunch of thugs? some god.
  • jimmy irish -... 2012/10/22 13:22:21
    jimmy
    +1
    I don't think that at all, obiviously you don't believe in god, I do so lets leave it that.
  • irish -... jimmy 2012/10/22 13:38:51
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    you must believe it you cited the OT.
  • Jack Sprat mimi 2012/10/20 20:20:35
    Jack Sprat
    +3
    Amen

    ו שַׁאֲלוּ, שְׁלוֹם יְרוּשָׁלִָם; יִשְׁלָיוּ, אֹהֲבָיִךְ.

    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; may they prosper that love thee.
  • ConLibF... Jack Sprat 2012/10/21 00:41:35
    ConLibFraud
    +5
    Pray for peace? How about you pray that the zionists don't execute another 911 false flag in America and start WWIII !!!!!
  • Jack Sprat ConLibF... 2012/10/21 01:08:46
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    Way to go, moron, maybe you saw the pictues of the two planes which showed Bush and Chenny jumping out of the planes just before they hit the Towers, the Pentagon and hit the dirt in PA. Please, please take your racist rant to the doctor and get some meds, you "kill the Jew is showing."
  • ConLibF... Jack Sprat 2012/10/21 01:18:08
    ConLibFraud
    +6
    I recommend you watch this video then look in the mirror next time you call someone a moron. I bet you are too coward. The video shows the 2nd plane is a gray plane with no windows and has something oblong attached on the bottom. Ever flown in a commercial airliner with that description? NO YOU HAVEN'T!!!

    Now if you continue your unfounded rant, you will be found aiding and abetting the real 911 criminals and obstructing justice.

  • Israel Jack Sprat 2012/10/21 09:39:41
    Israel
    +1
    I see the anti-semites have crawled out from under their rocks. Next they will be telling us, earth quakes, hurracaines... are all caused by the Jews.
  • Jack Sprat Israel 2012/10/21 23:50:53
    Jack Sprat
    +1
    Yea, apparently Joooooooooooos are the proplem, and the 35 muslim countries around them aren't. I've heard this BS of the Joooooooooos bringing down the Towers before, or Chenny and Bush, or anyone but the poor radical murderers who purpetrate 14,000 terrorist events every year and that's only counting from 2006.

    "I will bless them that bless thee, and I will curse them that curse thee." They won't believe that one either.
  • Israel Jack Sprat 2012/10/22 09:34:38
    Israel
    +1
    Libfrau and irish, (irish who should not be using a nation's name to spew his bigoted, anti-semitic rehtoric, I am half Irish, and I find it offensive,) are awful, nasty anti-semitics.
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