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Michigan passes Right to Work law: Cheers or Boo

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  • sglmom 2012/12/18 09:47:33
    Cheers
    sglmom
    Applause!
  • Zorkon 2012/12/15 00:01:44
    Cheers
    Zorkon
    +1
    Right-to-work laws mean fewer jobs moved overseas. It may mean lower wages, but lower-wage places are where the jobs go.

    High minimum wages and unions do nothing to permanently improve the standard of living. They may improve it TEMPORARILY, i.e. until labor becomes unaffordable and companies have to cut costs by moving production overseas, or at least to a Right-To-Work state, but in the long run, high minimum wages and unions decrease the standard of living by making labor unaffordable, thereby driving it out of the country altogether, which means jobs are LOST.

    Better a low-paying job than NO job at all.
  • dickjones 2012/12/14 15:18:16
    Cheers
    dickjones
    +1
    Everyone has a right to work for any employer who is willing to hire them. They should not be coerced or forced to join a union against their will. Unions collect dues from it's members and then funnel that money right back to a political party that members may or may NOT wish to support. And we all know which party that is.
  • Phantom 2012/12/13 13:06:31
    boo
    Phantom
    +1
    It's just one more step to poverty for the middle class.
  • Zorkon Phantom 2012/12/15 00:10:03
    Zorkon
    +1
    If right-to-work is one step to poverty, then unions are THREE steps to poverty.

    With right-to-work, you may have lower-paying jobs, but at least you still have jobs.

    With unions, the jobs are so high-paying that companies cannot afford them, and so the jobs go somewhere else where they are not as costly to the companies, such as OVERSEAS.
  • Phantom Zorkon 2012/12/15 00:39:46
    Phantom
    It's greed that drives companies overseas, to the sweat shops that pay a dollar a day or less. Most of my life, as a union member I was the sole bread winner. My wife was the home makerand took care of the kids. Now it takes both husband and wife, and still they can't keep their heads above water. Why?? because people like you believe in the right to work, and have been brainwashed into believing unions are evil. Keep it up and soon you'll be forced to get another job just to put food on the table.
  • Chris 2012/12/13 04:24:37
  • jdemme 2012/12/13 03:12:56
    boo
    jdemme
    +1
    Right to Work is really just short for "mooching of unions." This bill basically says that you can be a part of a union and not pay dues, which basically causes moochers who like their union but don't want to pay to support it but want others to, or even go around the unions and work for $10 an hour, which is about $20,000 a year for a 40 hour work week without holidays.

    Either way, it's terrible for the average worker. I'm not saying unions aren't corrupt, but I am saying that it's much better to make $30 an hour plus benefits, which WAS the wage of the GM plants in Michigan, than $15 an hour and no benefits, which was the wage of the same type of worker in the Right to Work state of Tennessee. Again, that's $60k to $30k. Just think about it for a minute.
  • hatter jdemme 2012/12/13 05:46:16
    hatter
    +3
    why should the auto workers get paid good money to do easy jobs. i think if the job is hard then you get paid more. if the job is easy and you can basically train a monkey to do it why should they get paid more.
  • Lefty hatter 2012/12/13 13:39:15
    Lefty
    +2
    So, you don't like unions because the people make a decent living. Shame on you!
  • hatter Lefty 2012/12/14 01:11:22
    hatter
    +2
    No its because there laws suck my blood every day. And I don't like them because they feel entitled to good pay. Shame on you
  • Lefty hatter 2012/12/14 11:59:42
    Lefty
    +1
    Everyone is entitled to a decent pay!
  • Todd~AFCL Lefty 2012/12/15 00:34:07
    Todd~AFCL
    +1
    NOBODY is entitled to anything unless they EARN it!
  • Lefty Todd~AFCL 2012/12/15 01:43:59
    Lefty
    And you have determined if they've earned it?
  • USAISME 2012/12/13 02:30:22
    Cheers
    USAISME
    +3
    You bet. Take the unions down now. Bye, bye thugs that run American jobs out of this country. This includes the public sector unions that are parasites sucking our tax money down the drain.
  • Lefty USAISME 2012/12/13 13:44:21
    Lefty
    +1
    Thanks for standing up for business looking to put this country on an even keel with chinese workers. What is wrong with you people? Can't you see the end game here?
  • Stratweenie57 2012/12/13 00:41:29
    Cheers
    Stratweenie57
    +2
    MAJOR CHEERS!!!
  • kevjon 2012/12/13 00:22:44
    Cheers
    kevjon
    +2
    The liberal mafia is collapsing in front of our eyes, these are historical times in America.
    What do we have: An illegal Muslim elected to the presidency, voter fraud, escalating racial tension, the most lying media in history, the collapse of a criminal organization( the unions and Acorn) voter fraud in a second election, lawsuits against states that tried to defend themselves from illegals and history continues to show just how volatile Obama has lead this country to become.
  • marty 2012/12/12 23:14:07
    Cheers
    marty
    +4
    Unions started off with genuine good purposes but devolved into extortion to work.
  • sneekyfoot 2012/12/12 23:07:48
    boo
    sneekyfoot
    labor union guy will bust some heads
  • TombstoneJim 2012/12/12 22:52:57
    Cheers
    TombstoneJim
    +3
    As shown by the behavior of the "union representatives" and the speech by Mr. Hoffa, the unions have become nothing but strong armed criminals protecting the rights of no one and encroaching on the rights of everyone - unfortunately I think Mr. Hoffa – there will be blood – already has been a drop or two from the most recent “union action” of assault and battery against a man in full public view…
  • burningsnowman 2012/12/12 22:32:46 (edited)
    boo
    burningsnowman
    +3
    Don't get me wrong, I can see both sides. I live in RI, I know how bad some union bosses are and how some people can get ripped off. But the decline of labor has had real consequences in terms of wages, benefits, trade policy, etc. and not to the American public's benefit. Plus there's the free rider problem.
  • Mike 2012/12/12 22:19:30
    boo
    Mike
    +3
    a great step backwards
  • Shifting Piece 2012/12/12 21:43:03
  • Deb 2012/12/12 21:40:40
    Cheers
    Deb
    +6
    KUDOS to Michigan...they finally did something RIGHT!
  • Reggie☮ 2012/12/12 21:09:20
    Cheers
    Reggie☮
  • Don 2012/12/12 21:00:51
    Cheers
    Don
    +4
    Good for MI.
    Bad for democraps. Their gravy train with biscut wheels just jumped the tracks.
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/12/12 20:52:19
    Cheers
    Christopher Kirchen
    +5
    Good deal, Bravo.
  • Simone Seitz 2012/12/12 20:21:54
    Cheers
    Simone Seitz
    +5
    They threatened to fire my Dad if he didn't join them. So i hope that this spreads across america soon. (He left that job and joined a Union free one). Whoo!
  • Squatch 2012/12/12 19:54:30
    Cheers
    Squatch
    +4
    Unions - Mafia - What's the difference? Chalk up one for justice in the workplace.
  • shenendoah 2012/12/12 19:43:45
    Cheers
    shenendoah
    +5
    HIP HIP HOORAY. Here's one for the good guys.
  • Phantom shenendoah 2012/12/13 13:15:51
    Phantom
    So you're calling the wealthy 2% good guys? The middle class sure took a beating in this one. Maybe it's one way of keeping the Mexicans in Mexico.
  • shenendoah Phantom 2012/12/13 17:52:29
    shenendoah
    +2
    What in heck's your problem. You consider the rich man your enemy but you belly up to the scum that runs these unions. These people are not paupers, my friend.
  • Phantom shenendoah 2012/12/13 18:41:08
    Phantom
    +1
    The wealthy are an enemy of the middle class workng person. That's why they've brainwashed you into believing that people who run the unions are scum
  • shenendoah Phantom 2012/12/13 19:10:14 (edited)
    shenendoah
    +4
    I've never been hired by a poor man. I have no problem with those that have money. I feel folks are entitled to enjoy the fruits of their labors. C'mon, don't get mad because they aren't sharing with you. You didn't work for it so you aren't entitled to it. The unions are scum, they are thugs and they have become too powerful because of weak minded folks like you.
  • Lefty shenendoah 2012/12/14 00:25:54 (edited)
    Lefty
    +1
    Unions gave you Holiday pay, vacation pay, sick days, and overtime pay, as well as arbitration. Oh and don't forget your retirement package.
  • shenendoah Lefty 2012/12/14 04:06:47 (edited)
    shenendoah
    +3
    Oh yes unions have been very good at offering perks that keep the workers blinded to their true agenda and their true agenda is more power. Many people don't look beyond their own happiness to see if there is a down side to getting what you want.
  • Lefty shenendoah 2012/12/14 12:04:40 (edited)
    Lefty
    +1
    That power you talk of is your "unionited" power! Suddenly you right wingers don't like the wealthy?
  • shenendoah Lefty 2012/12/14 20:20:01
    shenendoah
    +1
    The wealthy do not bother me. Some of them are grasping, greedy sobs but that also describes most liberals
  • Lefty shenendoah 2012/12/15 01:52:35
    Lefty
    ""Oh yes unions have been very good at offering perks that keep the workers blinded to their true agenda and their true agenda is more power.""
    You're also describing your employer, what's the difference?

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