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MI Secretary of State: 4K noncitizens on voter rolls, the federal government won't give her access to more citizenship data.

Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/19 17:16:31

Lansing — One day after being sued over a controversial ballot box citizenship question, Secretary of State Ruth Johnson said Tuesday there are an estimated 4,000 noncitizens on Michigan's voter rolls.


The estimate is based on the state's access to citizenship information for one-fifth of the population, Johnson said, adding the federal government won't give her access to more citizenship data.


Johnson said the results of a "very tedious" analysis of 58,000 driver's licenses and state-issued identification cards found 963 noncitizens registered to vote.


Department of State employees cross-referenced those noncitizens with voting records and found 54 have a voting history and have voted a total of 95 times, Johnson said.


Using census estimates that 305,000 noncitizens live in Michigan, Johnson's office extrapolated that 5,064 could be noncitizens and then lowered its estimate to 4,000 to account for children, spokeswoman Gisgie Gendreau said.


Johnson said the discovery justifies her insistence that Michigan's 7.34 million registered voters be asked to affirm their citizenship if they vote at the polls in November. The daughter of a Canadian immigrant, Johnson said the citizenship question is necessary because over the years noncitizens have been automatically registered to vote while legally obtaining a driver's license.


"We have a problem. We need to fix it," Johnson told The Detroit News. "Denying and minimizing it doesn't get the job done."


A group of voting rights advocates, labor unions and citizens sued Johnson in federal court Monday, challenging her authority to ask voters to affirm their citizenship after Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed legislation adding the question to absentee and in-person voting applications.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120919/POLITICS01/209190...
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  • ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM 2012/09/19 17:33:59
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +10
    OUR Voting System has Become So Corrupt Since 2000, When Gore Was Beat in FL, not once on Recounts but Twice on Recounts...Get Over It Gore and LIB's...YOU LOST.
    Since then we have had Military Absentee Votes Blocked for Counting, Dead Voting, Entertainer's Voting in Multiple States, Double and Tripple Voting of Citizens, States Posting More Votes, than Citizens In Those States....1100 Federal Inmates Voting and Frankin winning by 300 Votes, Making Him the Deciding Vote on ObabaCare..

    And All This HAS BEEN ALLOWED...Not One of these Illegal Voter Fraud Cases By State, Has been Overturned..Votes were Allowed...."They Would Not Have Made A Difference"...Oh Yeah,,,How about Frankin..???

    We Call Ourselves a Democracy and We Vote Like a Democracy.....Yeah Right....
    Our Voter Laws and The Way The LIB Gov allows These Frauds to Exist....We are No Better, Than A Dictator State of Corruption...Africa Ring a Bell...????

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  • texasred 2012/09/20 10:07:09
    texasred
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    And the Dems keep saying there is little to no voter fraud. They're frauds.
  • redhorse29 2012/09/20 06:26:35
    redhorse29
    +1
    The wealthy liberal progressive elitist machine owns the court and media. Why not the the ballot box?
  • kevjon 2012/09/20 03:13:24
    kevjon
    +1
    Unbelievable that this kind of thing could happen here in the United States. Once again the liberals are exposed of their dirty cheating ways. How many times do criminals stay loyal to their own people?....never so why would liberal followers blindly put their faith in a cheating party.
    This should be dealt with on a national level but I highly doubt it will.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/09/20 00:00:59
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
    The federal government wants to vote the cemetery. Not to mention voting Dearbornistan in duplicate, triplicate, and quadruplicate.
  • exhon2009 2012/09/19 23:50:01
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    I understand how dead people are on the rolls. They were living, they voted and then they died and weren't promptly removed. But non-citizens? Sounds like criminal intent to me.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/09/19 22:52:47 (edited)
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    +1
    4k Non Citizens due to vote? God Forbid

    What the Hell are we ? Rome
  • exhon2009 jackola... 2012/09/19 23:48:58
    exhon2009
    I don't think Rome gave any rights to non-citizens.
  • jerry 2012/09/19 22:23:41
    jerry
    +1
    Fight the good fight. Anytime I see a labor union lining up on one side, I know I'll end up on the other.
  • ThickAzABrick 2012/09/19 22:07:42
    ThickAzABrick
    +1
    We are dying from a thousand paper cuts here in Michigan and one HUGE arterial bleed. If this awesome woman can sew these cuts up, GOD BLESS HER!
  • Pedalpusher 2012/09/19 21:13:53
    Pedalpusher
    +1
    Oh Gee, does this come as a surprise to anyone? I'm sure it's not the only state either, probably all of Obama's 57 states (7 extra just to make sure he wins) have registered illegals! Why do you think they want her to stop getting into the records?
  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/09/19 20:52:45
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    +1
    Good for Michigan and its Sec State. Now if they could find a way to disown Dearborn...

    I don't understand how the federal government (you remember, the one WE the People supposedly hire to work for US) can refuse to give a state official information bearing on a legitimate -- and legal -- issue of citizenship.
  • Louisa - Enemy of the State 2012/09/19 20:35:33
    Louisa - Enemy of the State
    +4
    The entire government should be shut down until the states get their rights to verify their voter roles. Virtually everything going on in government today is sick and twisted. I'd sooner have a revolution and set up a new government! You can smell the corruption in DC from coast to coast Bury this administration and Congress.
  • Walt 2012/09/19 20:28:32 (edited)
    Walt
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    The liberal corruption machine doesn't want anyone to have the authority to secure the vote. Liberals think there is nothing exceptional about being American and they want to make sure such is the case by allowing every non-American Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote in our elections.
  • intolerantrwj 2012/09/19 20:11:47
    intolerantrwj
    +6
    ..... " those noncitizens with voting records and found 54 have a voting history and have voted a total of 95 times "

    .................... arrest them and make a very public display of their prosecution.
  • Pedalpu... intoler... 2012/09/19 21:18:41
    Pedalpusher
    +3
    That is if they can even find them, they are probably all being well hidden by Obama! At least till the elections, they move them to another state where the Secretary of State isn't interested in doing their job!
  • intoler... Pedalpu... 2012/09/20 15:11:30
    intolerantrwj
    +2
    ..... reason I say in order to Vote you not only present I D, but it must be swiped .... instantly they know who you are, if you're Legal and if they put someone in handcuffs.

    Similar to your Pop smackin' your butt when you did wrong, if you aren't supposed to be voting and take the risk of doing so, the penalty is coming.
  • Pedalpu... intoler... 2012/09/20 23:28:23
    Pedalpusher
    +2
    I'll go along with that!!
  • tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA 2012/09/19 19:56:47
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    +4
    I just sent this link to the news station in Detroit (the Paul W Smith Show) to ask if he thought it was worth discussing on his show. We'll see...
  • Pedalpu... tommyg ... 2012/09/20 23:28:50
    Pedalpusher
    +1
    Let us know if you hear anything!
  • tommyg ... Pedalpu... 2012/09/21 00:24:21
    tommyg - POTL- PWCM-JLA
    Will do.
  • DavE 2012/09/19 19:35:52
    DavE
    +7
    Anyone who supports the Obama administration's continual disregard of voter fraud is anti-American, just like Obama.

    supports obama administrations continual disregard voter fraud anti-american obama
  • American Girl 2012/09/19 19:29:53
    American Girl
    +7
    They will stop at nothing to stuff the ballot boxes. Corruption is what these people are all about.
  • No nonsense NanC...don't BS... 2012/09/19 19:27:34
    No nonsense NanC...don't BS me!
    +8
    " group of voting rights advocates, labor unions and citizens sued Johnson in federal court Monday, challenging her authority to ask voters to affirm their citizenship after Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed legislation adding the question to absentee and in-person voting applications."

    Does anyone else think these objections to Voter ID are people who are on the
    Democrat voter base? 0bama needs all those illegal voters to win... all the ones
    ACORN, SEIU, and other Democratic leaning groups signed up who are
    illegal non citizen, residents of Pine Lawn (may they RIP) and those entertainment workers like Mickey and Donald at Disneyland to win. Does anyone think those voters should determine who is the POTUS and all the people who are legal voters of this
    county?
  • RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/09/19 19:14:24
  • goatman112003 2012/09/19 18:09:47
    goatman112003
    +8
    This administration in DC doesn't want an honest election on any circumstances.
  • Pedalpu... goatman... 2012/09/19 21:21:06
    Pedalpusher
    +2
    Do you think the last one was legal?
  • goatman... Pedalpu... 2012/09/19 22:17:57
    goatman112003
    +1
    not really in some states
  • Dee 2012/09/19 17:35:52
    Dee
    +7
    The Governor won't support it because he knows it will open a huge can of worms. Let Johnson do the job she is being paid to do. I want to know my vote counts and will not be negated by illegal shenanigans.
  • Pedalpu... Dee 2012/09/19 21:21:40
    Pedalpusher
    +2
    Amen!!
  • ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM 2012/09/19 17:33:59
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +10
    OUR Voting System has Become So Corrupt Since 2000, When Gore Was Beat in FL, not once on Recounts but Twice on Recounts...Get Over It Gore and LIB's...YOU LOST.
    Since then we have had Military Absentee Votes Blocked for Counting, Dead Voting, Entertainer's Voting in Multiple States, Double and Tripple Voting of Citizens, States Posting More Votes, than Citizens In Those States....1100 Federal Inmates Voting and Frankin winning by 300 Votes, Making Him the Deciding Vote on ObabaCare..

    And All This HAS BEEN ALLOWED...Not One of these Illegal Voter Fraud Cases By State, Has been Overturned..Votes were Allowed...."They Would Not Have Made A Difference"...Oh Yeah,,,How about Frankin..???

    We Call Ourselves a Democracy and We Vote Like a Democracy.....Yeah Right....
    Our Voter Laws and The Way The LIB Gov allows These Frauds to Exist....We are No Better, Than A Dictator State of Corruption...Africa Ring a Bell...????

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