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MI Lottery Winner (Amanda Clayton) Charged with Welfare Fraud

sglmom 2012/04/18 05:28:55
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Link to the previous poll ..
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/out-of-mi-another-lotto...


Out of Lincoln Park, MI ..
(Detroit Area)

Seens that Amanda Clayton .. the Lottery Winner from Michigan ..
The one who pocketed $735,000 BEFORE Taxes ..
in one SINGLE Lump sum ..

Ms Clayton .. who was in receipt of Food Stamps, Medicaid, Public Welfare Funds ..

Was ARRESTED, spent the Night in Jail ..
And ..
Finally ..

Heard the charges in court on 17 Apr 2012
-- " failing to inform the state that her income had changed as a result of the lottery prize and a job"
(Accusations include collection of about $5,475 in Food Stamps and Public Medical Benefits for the months between her Lotto Winnings and when they were finally cut off)

With a PLEA of Not Guilty ..
Next Hearing is scheduled for 24 Apr 2012 ..

Now Ms Clayton's MOTHER (Euline Clayton) Weighs in on this Arrest/Charges ..
-- "The charges "are very extreme. ... They arrested her like a vulture," the elder Clayton said. "She didn't steal $1 million.""

It was the quick thinking Reporter who asked Euline why her DAUGHTER didn't just write a check to repay the state weeks ago (to solve this problem) ..

And here's Euline's (Clayton's mother) response ..
"It's not that easy. Come on."


(suspicious indeed .. NOW how HARD is it to write a check for your bills when you've pocketed about $500K after taxes from the Lottery?)
(or .. is this a forewarning of things to come .. has the FORTUNE already been spent in such a short time?)


Link to the articles
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57415309-504083/amanda...
http://www.sentinel-standard.com/newsnow/x1105740936/Michigan...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/amanda-clayton-michi...
http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?ps=1011&rip;_id=%3CD9U...
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/lottery_winner_ar...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/michigan-million-lotto-winner-...



NOTE that last week .. Governor Rick Snyder signed into law a REQUIREMENT That the Lottery Commission must notify Michigan Human Services when anyone wins at LEAST $1,000 in the Lottery.



This begs these questions ..

1. WHY is a law needed to apply common sense and have the Departments within one state TALK To each other and share information?
2. WHY couldn't Ms Clayton write that check .. is there some REASON here that we will find out once the case proceeds?



PLEASE feel free to add your thoughts below ..



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  • Amy ...AKA Dudess 2012/04/18 12:02:06
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    Amy ...AKA Dudess
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    The mother of this woman said that her daughter tried to call and report it but no one called her back, but I dont understand why she even used the foodstamps when they was not needed. She could have went into the office and returned the card and explained that they was no longer needed

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  • Texas Gal 2012/04/22 18:49:22
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    I have no sympathy for her. She needs to be penalized to the full extent of the law for fraud.
  • goatman112003 2012/04/20 17:54:44
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    When she won and was asked about it she stated I am still out of work and entitled to it. It never dawn on her you have a pile of money and can live off of that.
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/04/18 22:57:33
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    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    This is exactly the type of entitlement society Obama and the left wish to expand. Mindless drones sitting on their ass with their hands out and always voting democrat to keep the gravy train running.
  • SoCalEx-Dem 2012/04/18 15:39:51
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    SoCalEx-Dem
    +4
    Wonder what her Mother thinks the charges should be? Welfare fraud seems to be the right charge to me. How is the charge extreme? She would prefer we call it petty theft?
  • bluejacket 2012/04/18 14:47:16
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    +2
    This is why we need higher taxes, to pay for this selfish crap. It is a lot easier for the Democrats to screw the hardworking citizens than to go after the lawbreakers. After all, the Democrats might get caught up in their own traps to catch theives.
  • SA 2012/04/18 14:35:47
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    SA
    +2
    I can see where this young woman received her morals from....her Mother. Yes, parents need to protect their young, but her daughter isn't in need of protection. Her daughter IS a vulture, that feels entitled.
    She pleaded "not guilty" because in her twisted mind she did no wrong. smh
  • bettyboop 2012/04/18 14:35:38
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    +2
    She did not write a check because of greed. She has reasoned within herself that she was entitled.
  • Seonag 2012/04/18 13:33:37
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    Seonag
    +3
    IF convicted, all money should be refunded. I don't know Michigan's Medicaid laws, but the state's I've lived in all have required that eligibility must be met annually. If that's the case in Michigan, she may have falsified her eligibility.
  • Amy ...AKA Dudess 2012/04/18 12:02:06
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    Amy ...AKA Dudess
    +5
    The mother of this woman said that her daughter tried to call and report it but no one called her back, but I dont understand why she even used the foodstamps when they was not needed. She could have went into the office and returned the card and explained that they was no longer needed
  • SA Amy ...... 2012/04/18 13:25:44
    SA
    +2
    Exactly!!
  • chaoskitty123 2012/04/18 12:01:24
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    +1
    It's always a tough call because many in the government don't listen even when you try to report changes in income... but of course, the key there is the word "try". When people become dependent on government, they just can't break the dependency.

    Examine wealthy people who receive Social Security or even Republicans who condemn the Social Security system yet will be damned if they won't get theirs. Social Security is a retroactive program meaning not one dime you pay in is for your own Social Security. When the system began, it went into immediate use giving money to people in need during the Great Depression so that working Americans were providing the money that was paid out. When you retire, it's the people still paying in for your retirement Social Security payments... you pay nothing for it.

    Yet how often have we seen Republicans attack government programs and then be first in line to get the benefits when they are in need or simply want to get back what they feel they paid in?

    While Republicans may be hypocrites... that's better than breeding support for the dependency in the first place which is where Democrats go wrong.

    The problem with Capitalism is Plutocracy and ironically enough, that was just as true with Communism.

    Plutocracy is rule by the wealthy direct...



















    It's always a tough call because many in the government don't listen even when you try to report changes in income... but of course, the key there is the word "try". When people become dependent on government, they just can't break the dependency.

    Examine wealthy people who receive Social Security or even Republicans who condemn the Social Security system yet will be damned if they won't get theirs. Social Security is a retroactive program meaning not one dime you pay in is for your own Social Security. When the system began, it went into immediate use giving money to people in need during the Great Depression so that working Americans were providing the money that was paid out. When you retire, it's the people still paying in for your retirement Social Security payments... you pay nothing for it.

    Yet how often have we seen Republicans attack government programs and then be first in line to get the benefits when they are in need or simply want to get back what they feel they paid in?

    While Republicans may be hypocrites... that's better than breeding support for the dependency in the first place which is where Democrats go wrong.

    The problem with Capitalism is Plutocracy and ironically enough, that was just as true with Communism.

    Plutocracy is rule by the wealthy directly or indirectly as wealthy people use their wealth to become political leaders or will use their wealth to gain control over political leaders.The key word there is "control" because that's where Plutocracy comes in.

    With Communism, the promise was a redistribution of wealth and yet, to achieve this meant having the power to control the economy and all financial resources... no different than the Capitalist system in this regard.

    The difference is simple enough to understand as Capitalism allows everyone to achieve what they can from a free market system meaning an imbalance as some will achieve greatly and others little at all. Communism offers a redistribution of wealth so everyone basically gets the same with the difference being the more people you add, the more your economy must grow as if it doesn't grow then adding more people to the system means everyone gets less.

    But within each system, todays America vs the old USSR, there is an element of blind support given by the people always with an us vs them mentality and in most cases it's externalized as foreign enemies. In the US, the system breaks down because of it's two party system where each side blames the other without taking responsibility for what their own side contributes to the problem as both sides have been dumbed down into blind sheep who can't do anything but blame the other side until they reach a point where neither side is electing leaders based on leadership ability... but the ignorant stupidity of voting to keep the other side from winning even if their candidates are better qualified than your own.

    To a degree, the US system is now no better than the old USSR before it's collapse because the American people have willingly given away the authority they possess which Capitalism has to offer. It's not just the political left... it's both sides. The left is, however, more pronounced because they support the federal government in it's growth of federal spending where the political right opposes more spending... yet, the political right isn't choosing leaders based on ability anymore than the left meaning that they're no different as the problem isn't which side has more power... it's that both have been so dumbed down they don't realize that they have have no power but are giving power to leaders who only represent themselves and the control they have to do whatever the hell they want with no real leadership ability to do anything but manipulate the media and the American people.

    Look at the Republican victory in 2010 and ask did they honor their promises to their voters... the answer is no they haven't and, in fact, Obama did more to reduce Obamacare than the Republicans even tried to do at the federal level as it's state Republicans taking action against Obamacare. And what about the Democrats in 2008... again, nothing as all they did was blame Republicans when it was the political left within the Democratic Party attacking everyone on the right who split their own party against itself and pushed rightwing Democrats to work with rightwing Republicans against Obama and by telling Republicans to get on board to blindly support Obama or get out of the way, leftwing Democrats guaranteed a repeat of 1992 when they did the same thing leading Republicans to unite to say no to everything Clinton wanted telling Liberal Democrats to prove they could do what they wanted without Republican support.

    Neither side is worth a crap in that regard.

    Amanda Clayton should have paid the money back but likely was so caught up in her wealth she didn't think to contact anyone to tell them to stop sending Food Stamps and the system itself just kept on sending the Food Stamps as an automatic payment. If you were required to send in a form every month to continue receiving Food Stamps or they'll be cut off, this probably wouldn't have happened.

    Apparently, Clayton actually didn't do anything wrong as the FS kept accumulating on her Food Stamp card and from what I read on the story, she actually didn't continue using the card. If true, then she committed no fraud because the FS weren't spent and are still on the card. If she did use the EBT card, then yeah... she be in big trouble as she knowingly continued to spend the benefits rather than just merely receiving them.

    If people ant to make something political about it, then observe the politics first.

    If you want to talk right and wrong because she used the Food Stamps, she's guilty if she used them... she's not guilty if the welfare system kept adding the FS on her EBT card not noticing they weren't being spent which would have been a sure sign something was wrong.
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  • carlene 2012/04/18 11:59:30
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    +3
    While I am glad to hear Clayton will face consequenses, this doesnt even scratch the surface of welfare abuse and bureaucratic government stupidity and wastefulness (of tax payer money). We pay for this.
  • wolf sloan 2012/04/18 11:49:43
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    +3
    She aspired to be one of those limo democrats but $735,000 doesn't even cover the application fee.
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/04/18 11:47:43
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    +4
    Not only should she have to pay back the money....there should be significant jail time!
  • Broken 2012/04/18 11:33:39
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    Broken
    +3
    Typical welfare mentality. She should have the book thrown at her - max possible punishment!
  • true american 2012/04/18 10:07:51
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  • betz 2012/04/18 08:16:12
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    +5
    What a shame. This is a perfect example of entitlement. The woman became so used to being given everything that she continued to take, take and take some more. Throw the book at the little crook.
    It sounds like she came by her beliefs honestly as her mother doesn't seem to have a brain in her head either. ***I type as I shake my head in disgust.***
  • Arizona... betz 2012/04/18 12:27:08
    Arizona1950
    +2
    One of the commentors mentioned that it is a card that the gov kept putting money on ... she neglected to let them know she won a large sum ... it remains to be proven yet if she was still actually using the Food Stamp card.
  • betz Arizona... 2012/04/18 12:54:15
    betz
    +3
    Still she is in the wrong as far as I am concerned.
  • Arizona... betz 2012/04/19 01:23:55
    Arizona1950
    +2
    She should have spoken up ...
  • SA Arizona... 2012/04/18 13:54:29
    SA
    +2
    In some states they put money and stamps on the same card. They continued to put whatever money or foodstamps on because she did not take the card back.
  • Arizona... SA 2012/04/19 01:24:42
    Arizona1950
    +2
    I agree she should have been more diligent in notifying them and returning the card.
  • David Lindner 2012/04/18 05:51:24
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    +2
    go figure. its not hard under this administration
  • Arizona... David L... 2012/04/18 12:25:34
    Arizona1950
    +3
    Well our public workers have never been known for efficiency ... sad to say.
  • David L... Arizona... 2012/04/18 16:29:19
  • Doreen 2012/04/18 05:47:13
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    +5
    Can't write a check? Does she have hands? Were they cut off? Just write the damn check you thieving....um....um....uh you know what I want to say to her. It is people like her who make the people hate those who REALLY need temporary help.
  • Arizona... Doreen 2012/04/18 12:24:50
    Arizona1950
    +2
    I really don't begrudge her winning. What a dream come true ... but I think it only right with that large sum that she at least pay back a percentage of what society has given her in her time of need.
  • Arizona1950 2012/04/18 05:39:06
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    Arizona1950
    +4
    I hope she's made to pay is all back and with interest.
  • betz Arizona... 2012/04/18 08:17:54
    betz
    +3
    Can one buy lottery tickets with welfare checks? If so that, in itself, is so very very wrong.
  • Arizona... betz 2012/04/18 12:19:50
    Arizona1950
    +2
    Precisely why I think she should pay every time back. Not that I begrudge her a dream but because its the right thing to do.
  • chaoski... Arizona... 2012/04/18 12:07:30
    chaoskitty123
    +2
    In reading other sources, it may be she didn't even spend the money. She's apparently being accused of collecting the Food Stamps but she may not have even used them. in other words, the system kept putting the money on her EBT card but her only guilt was forgetting to report she didn't need them anymore. If she didn't actually use the FS then there's nothing to pay back... it's still on the card and it's the system itself that's to blame not noticing the FS were not being used.

    If she did spend the FS... it's not about paying it back as there are heavy fines for this that could cost her up to $250,000.00 if I remember correctly (or $25,000.00 and I just added a 0 lol).

    Food Stamp fraud isn't something to take lightly unless you are poor. If you are wealthy, then you'll usually be hit heavy.
  • Arizona... chaoski... 2012/04/18 12:22:50
    Arizona1950
    +3
    I don't begrudge her a dream but she's won a lot of money and I think the right thing to do to pay back to society what they did for her even if its only a percentage.
  • SA chaoski... 2012/04/18 14:01:31
    SA
    +1
    When one first applies for assistance they have to sign a form that says if their income goes up they need to send in the form saying so.
    She could have even taken the card and form back to Social Services, if nobody returned her calls.
    She wouldn't have to worry that way.
  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2012/04/18 05:35:30 (edited)
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    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +3
    Finally, maybe others that are pocketing funds will think twice but I doubt it. It would be nicer if they went after Gueitner and others that are defrauding much more.
  • Arizona... Hula gi... 2012/04/18 12:23:37
    Arizona1950
    +2
    I would be happy if they just investigated why Obama's secretary paid more in taxes than he did.
  • Hula gi... Arizona... 2012/04/18 18:39:39
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +2
    Well when you move $48,000 dollars over to your children's trust both Michelle and Barry then that lowers your income and it just taught us all how to do it. So move $12,000 each to each child to a trust that you control then opps....there's a great tax deduction.
  • Arizona... Hula gi... 2012/04/19 01:25:58
    Arizona1950
    +2
    Thank you.

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