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Möpvytöϟ 2012/11/18 16:40:10
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  • Rebel Yell 2012/11/18 17:28:24
    Rebel Yell
    +9
    He's still p*ssed. He fell for the fiery FOX rhetoric that said Romney would win by a landslide this country has never seen before. McCain doesn't like Romney, but what has his wrinkled old butt in a sling is that Republicans did not take the Senate like FOX and Karl Rove and Dick Morris promised. Quite the opposite, Dems picked up seats. They only have the House through gerrymandering.

    So it doesn't matter what he thinks or who he does not approve. He is one example of why Republicans lose and will continue to lose... voters get tired of the nonstop whining and redundant beetching.

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  • Möpvytöϟ 2012/11/19 13:49:36
  • bmacklowe 2012/11/19 06:01:42
    bmacklowe
    He said he'd feel better about considering Susan Rice if she owned up to what she did by going on TV and saying she was wrong about the information she gave the American people on 5 TV shows about the Benghazi attacks. He also says in this clip that he will not support any nominee until we have all the facts about what happened. He didn't say he would never support any nominee. You misinterpreted and then misrepresented his statement.
  • A Founding Father 2012/11/19 04:28:30
    A Founding Father
    +1
    Honestly now, does anyone really care what John McCain will support or not? The complaining old men of the Republican Party are a breed of dying buffaloes who cause
    the partry more problems than they solve. McCain is one of them, appearing on Faux network every week or two to be "against" something or "opposed to" some other thing, making himself part of the problems and not much of any solutions.
  • wamcalif 2012/11/19 03:38:52
    wamcalif
    +1
    How 'presidential' of him! He's such an inspirational leader (lol).
  • VoidSeed 2012/11/18 21:35:06
    VoidSeed
    +2
    America 1st?
  • ehrhornp 2012/11/18 20:59:47
    ehrhornp
    +2
    Poor McCain. He just wanted the republicans to hang onto another senate seat. Give it up already. You lost. Disgusting that old man McCain would stoop to such pettiness.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/19 06:04:37
    bmacklowe
    Lying about how 4 Americans were killed is not a small thing. This is not being petty.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/19 06:43:21
    ehrhornp
    No evidence anyone lied. Perhaps you desire to out another CIA operative? You might have remembered sweet Valerie. You republicans I think have more in common with Bin Laden than with America.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/20 01:51:40
    bmacklowe
    Saying the attack was about the video when they knew it was not. That's the lie.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/20 03:02:02
    ehrhornp
    So the communications were a bit chaotic. They said it was a terrorist attack the very next day. Mitt looked like a fool when he tried to catch Obama during the debate. What an idiot.

    A lie is when someone says a country has atomic bombs when it doesn't. A lie is when they say a country could launch chemical weapons at a moments notice. Now these are lies.

    And how do you know that video didn't play at least some role in it? Sounds to me it could have been a motivating factor. But you know what? Who cares. It pisses me off however that republicans may be trying to out another CIA operative. I mean what is with these commies? Whose side are they on?
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/20 06:49:35 (edited)
    bmacklowe
    Ah, but he DIDN'T say the Benghazi attack was a terror attack. He said no terror activities would be tolerated, but he was talking about the original 9/11 when he said it. He didn't mention Libya until a couple paragraphs after he said that. So Mitt Romney was not an idiot to push on that point. In fact, he should have pushed harder, but he hadn't read the transcript and backed down. Had he read that transcript, he could have caught the president misleading the American public in the middle of a presidential debate. Oh, and by the way the Iraq info was not a lie...that was the intel we had at that time.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/20 16:51:57
    ehrhornp
    Intel that was obviously wrong. Scott saw it was wrong and he wrote a book on it. Shame he was ignored. He was right, the Bush administration was 100% wrong.

    Poor Mitt was smack down during the debate. Accept it.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/22 17:41:44
    bmacklowe
    Smacked down with a falsehood.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/22 17:48:01
    ehrhornp
    lol, I know, within the bubble there is a different reality.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/22 17:52:32
    bmacklowe
    There's no bubble here. The president was being misleading with that bit about the transcript. Just because he won the election doesn't mean everything he said was right.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/22 18:59:34
    ehrhornp
    Doesn't mean what he said was wrong either or perhaps like sweet Valerie, info was left out. This is such a non issue and it really appears that republicans don't care if they out a CIA operation. Way to go republicans. Miss supporting Bin do we?
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/27 15:51:28
    bmacklowe
    A non-issue? 4 people died and they tried to say it was the result of a video, which they knew it wasn't. Director of Intelligence James Clapper admitted that the words "al Qaeda" and "terrorism" were taken out of her talking points before she went on the 5 TV shows. This is definitely not a non-issue, but the Obama administration would like it to be, while some in the media are trying to create the impression that it is. It won't go away, because somebody lied, someone didn't want people to know an al Qaeda affiliate attacked America on the anniversary of 9/11 in the middle of a presidential election year.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/27 15:55:25
    ehrhornp
    Like I said, republicans don't care if they out a CIA operation. Way to go. So does it make you proud to have outed sweet Valerie?
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/28 02:53:47
    bmacklowe
    Who outed anyone? We're talking about the administration trying to fool the people into thinking that there's no al Qaeda anymore so the president could be re-elected. Their whole story was "Bin Laden Dead, GM Alive" and that would have been jeopardized if people realized that just because he's dead it doesn't end anything. This is about lies and cover-ups. Remember, Clinton didn't get impeached for having an affair, but for lying under oath and obstructing justice. Richard Nixon didn't resign just because underlings broke into the Watergate, but because he helped orchestrate a cover-up. Sometimes it's better to just come clean and tell the American people the truth, but they get afraid for their political futures and pile on the trouble. That's what I think happened here.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/28 04:03:06
    ehrhornp
    Well this situation could have been a CIA operation. Ever thought of that? No of course not.

    I don't agree with a lot of what Obama does including continuing the wars. But it is silly to say that the president is week on terrorism. Just tell that to GW's buddy Bin. Oh that is right. He is dead and fish food. Tell that to all the other terrorists that have been eliminated. Obama unfortunately has killed too many people.

    Clinton got impeached because the republicans were on a witch hunt. No values, just a determination to get Clinton on anything. What jokes the republicans are. I think you might be on your way out as it appears you are not willing to get with the program. Shame you dumped your past leaders like Eisenhower and even Nixon. At one time republicans used to respect their past leaders. Now they are just called RINOs. Pathetic, really pathetic.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/11/30 19:33:39 (edited)
    bmacklowe
    You like to rant on Republicans, but the fact is the Obama administration would not have gotten Bin Laden without intelligence gathered during the Bush years.

    Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice. There's an excellent behind-the-scenes book called "Catching Our Flag" that reveals what actually happened throughout that ordeal. Clinton signed a deal at the end of his term, admitting what he had done. He was barred from ever practicing law in front of the Supreme Court, and had his law licenses revoked. Doesn't sound like a simple "witch hunt" to me.

    Richard Nixon was an extraordinarily intelligent man, but he was always fearful of being taken down by enemies, and that is why I think he helped cover-up Watergate. He eventually took the fall, because everything got out of hand and the party was under pressure to throw him overboard. My point was that he could have saved himself the trouble by just being honest about what happened and the whole thing would have been over within weeks. But he was afraid that news of lowly GOP operatives breaking into Watergate would hurt his re-election campaign (which is interesting, because he was way ahead of his challenger George McGovern, and went on to win in a massive landslide carrying 49 states).

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    You like to rant on Republicans, but the fact is the Obama administration would not have gotten Bin Laden without intelligence gathered during the Bush years.

    Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice. There's an excellent behind-the-scenes book called "Catching Our Flag" that reveals what actually happened throughout that ordeal. Clinton signed a deal at the end of his term, admitting what he had done. He was barred from ever practicing law in front of the Supreme Court, and had his law licenses revoked. Doesn't sound like a simple "witch hunt" to me.

    Richard Nixon was an extraordinarily intelligent man, but he was always fearful of being taken down by enemies, and that is why I think he helped cover-up Watergate. He eventually took the fall, because everything got out of hand and the party was under pressure to throw him overboard. My point was that he could have saved himself the trouble by just being honest about what happened and the whole thing would have been over within weeks. But he was afraid that news of lowly GOP operatives breaking into Watergate would hurt his re-election campaign (which is interesting, because he was way ahead of his challenger George McGovern, and went on to win in a massive landslide carrying 49 states).

    Similarly, Clinton covered up his affair for political purposes by lying under oath in a separate inquiry about sexual harassment, and otherwise trying to cover his tracks. Remember, the woman he was having the affair with basically worked for him. That affects the office of the president. But what was worse was the lying and dodging. He brought it on himself. What is pathetic is the people who make excuses for him and blame Republicans. Do you know who appointed the special prosecutor? Janet Reno, Clinton's Attorney General.
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  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/11/30 21:10:06
    ehrhornp
    lol, dream on. Fact is GW was too lazy to get him. He knew where he was but Bin was his buddy.

    Clinton was impeached because the republicans were nothing but hypocrites. They tried anything to get Bill Clinton and had to settle on Monica because nothing else worked out. Pretty pathetic when the speaker of the house was doing the same thing. Love your hypocrisy.

    I agree with you to a large extent on Nixon. He was very paranoid and he was intelligent. Shame today's republican party wouldn't allow him into the party. lol

    Fact is the republicans by making Clinton an issue got smashed in the end as his approval ratings soared. Clinton remains the best conservative president we have had in decades. He did what republicans only promised. He balanced the federal budget. Why can't republicans balance anything. First principle of being a conservative.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/12/01 09:36:26 (edited)
    bmacklowe
    Yes Clinton won the PR war, but he lost legally. The whole "G.W. and Bin Laden were buddies" thing loses you a lot of credibility. The Bin Laden family cast out Osama a long time before. President Bush did not deal with Osama Bin Laden, you conspiracy-monger. Publicly Bush downplayed the efforts to get Bin Laden, because it was a distraction from the larger War on Terror. Behind the scenes, though, they were working hard to find him. They interrogated many people, and were led to the site where Bin Laden was. I credit President Obama for making the order, but just about any president would have done the same. The real credit goes to the SEALS for completing the mission.

    The difference between Newt's indiscretions and Clinton's was that Newt never lied under oath about it in a sexual harassment case. For a lawyer, that was a pretty dumb thing to do. Clinton thought he could get away with that, and then he tried to cover his tracks. That's obstruction of justice. At the end of his term, he signed an agreement admitting what he'd done, so he wouldn't have to deal with anymore legal inquiries. Newt has tried to amend his ways in his personal life, and even converted to Catholicism. In the end Clinton's legacy did take a hit in one major way: Al Gore lost the presiden...

    Yes Clinton won the PR war, but he lost legally. The whole "G.W. and Bin Laden were buddies" thing loses you a lot of credibility. The Bin Laden family cast out Osama a long time before. President Bush did not deal with Osama Bin Laden, you conspiracy-monger. Publicly Bush downplayed the efforts to get Bin Laden, because it was a distraction from the larger War on Terror. Behind the scenes, though, they were working hard to find him. They interrogated many people, and were led to the site where Bin Laden was. I credit President Obama for making the order, but just about any president would have done the same. The real credit goes to the SEALS for completing the mission.

    The difference between Newt's indiscretions and Clinton's was that Newt never lied under oath about it in a sexual harassment case. For a lawyer, that was a pretty dumb thing to do. Clinton thought he could get away with that, and then he tried to cover his tracks. That's obstruction of justice. At the end of his term, he signed an agreement admitting what he'd done, so he wouldn't have to deal with anymore legal inquiries. Newt has tried to amend his ways in his personal life, and even converted to Catholicism. In the end Clinton's legacy did take a hit in one major way: Al Gore lost the presidency in the electoral college. He should have been way ahead considering how popular Clinton was. But Gore distanced himself somewhat from Clinton because he knew the impeachment hurt the administration. So, while Clinton had a high job approval (a result of a good economy), the voters didn't like the dishonesty.

    Clinton balanced the budget with the Republicans, including Newt Gingrich. He worked with them to make it happen. Obama doesn't really want to work with the Republicans. He wants to try to embarrass them politically to get what he wants. But this tactic tends not to work in a practical sense. If a deal doesn't happen it will be his fault, and will cripple his 2nd term. And the proof is that this happened before, as described in Bob Woodward's book, The Price of Politics.
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  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/12/01 16:36:11
    ehrhornp
    I'm sorry but if a person is doing the same thing, I don't care if he testified or not. He is a hypocrite and a slime ball. Clinton did not lie. He said he did not have sex after he got a definition of sex as being intercourse. Republicans succeeded in impeaching Clinton but that is all they got. I certainly would never vote for such a corrupt party ever again. And to think I joined them to support McCain in 2000. I will never make that mistake again.

    Clinton balanced the budget with little republican help. If republicans played any meaningful role, the budget would have stayed balanced after Clinton left. As everyone knows it didn't thanks to the voodoo practiced by republicans.

    Republicans are just jokes today as they have no core values except big intrusive government.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/12/02 14:22:57 (edited)
    bmacklowe
    He didn't lie? Yeah, right. And let's find out what the meaning of "is" is, shall we? What planet are you living on? If you seriously think they didn't have intercourse over all that time, you really put your blinders on. But while cheating in such an awful way is disturbing, it is not why he was impeached. Having an affair is not illegal. Lying under oath is. Lying to the people is also a bad thing, which he blatantly did on national TV. Consider "I did not have sexual relations with that woman...Miss Lewinsky." Sexual relations, he said, not sex. However you wanna say it, he lied.

    You also forget that the person he negotiated with on those budgets was Newt Gingrich, who left the Congress in 1999. He could not have passed the budgets without Republicans, who had control of the House. At least I give Bill Clinton credit for working with the Republicans. You won't even give them credit for working with Clinton. That's how divided we are as a nation. Too many people are unwilling to give credit where it's due.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/12/02 16:07:58
    ehrhornp
    I don't think they had sexual intercourse. Actually sweet monica gave Bill something like a dozen blow jobs, some of them didn't even result in a climax. Shows how involved he was.

    Clinton was impeached for one reason and that was because he was a democrat. If he was a republican, no way would he have been impeached. Republicans were pissed off that they got their butts kicked. Sexual relations obviously meant sexual intercourse so he didn't lie. Now he wasn't fully truthful and that is why he was debarred.

    Yes newtie negotiated but only after Clinton kicked his butt over the closure of the government. More things change the more they stagy the same. We may be going through the same thing as it appears the republicans have not learned anything.

    But I can see them doing this as if the democrats are allowed to do what they want, the economy would soon be booming and no one would vote republican.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/12/04 17:18:55
    bmacklowe
    You forget, the Democrats were in power in Congress for four years, two of which they also had the White House. They didn't get the economy booming then, either.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/12/04 18:37:41
    ehrhornp
    Economy is booming now compared to when Obama first came in. Are you proud of the fact that after 8 years of republican leadership, the stock market lost 30% of its value? I will never vote for such a party that has such a record.
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/12/04 19:00:02
    bmacklowe
    We could go back and forth forever, but I think that would get boring.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/12/05 02:45:23
    ehrhornp
    hard to argue with the truth. :-)
  • bmacklowe ehrhornp 2012/12/08 17:18:17
    bmacklowe
    Or smug people who think they are always right.
  • ehrhornp bmacklowe 2012/12/08 17:30:46
    ehrhornp
    Especially when they are right. What is with you republicans? Amazing even you you to filibuster your own proposal. Priceless.
  • unclepat 2012/11/18 20:58:01
    unclepat
    +3
    Bitter old irrelevant fool. How long before he stops supporting his daughter who makes the rounds on MSNBC?
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  • the spoiler 2012/11/18 20:54:28
    the spoiler
    +3
    Anybody that would pick Sarah Palin for VP should go away and never be heard from again
  • Lonzo 2012/11/18 19:59:34
    Lonzo
    +5
    curmudgeon

    Alas, an elder curmudgeon
  • SABLE 2012/11/18 19:56:50
    SABLE
    +4
    He needs to go away!!!! Yo Arizona, stop voting for him.
  • EdVenture 2012/11/18 19:16:24
    EdVenture
    +2
    Just attempting to create a potential favor (making her appt more valuable), that he can call in. Lindsay G did the same thing, both these guys kept a low profile during the campaigns.
  • kitkat42 2012/11/18 18:52:32
    kitkat42
    +7
    He needs to retire and get over his loss in 2008. What a giant doofus he is. AZ must be sooooo proud of him. ;)
    retire loss 2008 giant doofus az sooooo proud
  • sjalan 2012/11/18 17:54:59
    sjalan
    +7
    McCain shows his total disconnect from reality in this manner and didn't even bother to be at the Congressional briefing.

    Screw him. We will replace him in 2014 with a Democrat here in AZ anyway.

    Arizona has gone PURPLE!! Folks. People like McCain need to wake up to that fact and smell the roses. Bigotry, racism and prejudice just don't cut it any more from the party of the "angry old white men"

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