McCain is cheap in using distorted ads to boost his self-image. Has McCain sunk to a dishonorable and pathetic, clueless old man with a mental block.

If you know any history , this is the way of war and american politics as you should know this happened in the sixties. some things never change until the people change it. Hardy McCains doing in Iraq, and Kennedy was a young man would you have called him senile no probably inexperienced for that is what he was. we lost 63,000 american lives in nam and 58,000 soliders, the cost of inexperience



President Kennedy came into office with a belief that America could and should shape the destiny of the world's developing countries. Vietnam, however, was not primarily what he had in mind. Vietnam was not on the president's list of priorities nor was it discussed as key issues at the transition meeting between Kennedy and President Eisenhower. Indeed, Kennedy remarked in the middle of his administration, after Vietnam had become a more urgent issue, "You know, Eisenhower never mentioned it, never uttered the word Vietnam."

President Kennedy believed that the instability of developing countries demanded new approaches. Kennedy was especially taken by the analysis of MIT economist Walt W. Rostow, who believed that all nations followed the same general path of economic and social development. He argued that nations became unstable as the reached the phase he called "modernization."

The Kennedy administration was guided in part by this modernization model as it considered a way to protect South Vietnam while help it throughout the stages of economic growth. Most of Kennedy's advisers believed that South Vietnam was not in danger. As Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense said once, "North Vietnam will never beat us. They can't even make ice cubes."

Only one of Kennedy's key advisers spoke against the war. Secretary of State for Economic Affairs George Ball, warned the president that Vietnam would not easily bent to America's will. To maintain the independent South Vietnam, Ball insisted, would mean that in "five years there will be 300,000 American soldiers fighting in Vietnam." To this prophecy, Kennedy replied, "George you're crazier than hell."

In May 1961, President Kennedy sent 500 more American advisers to Vietnam, bringing American forces to 1,400 men. The military wanted more men saying that with 13,000 troops they could wipe out the Vietcong. Kennedy didn't know what to do; as men he trusted argued both sides of the issue.

Kennedy was not deciding the fate of Vietnam with a worry free head. Cuba, Berlin, Laos, and the Soviet Union all weighed on the President. Kennedy believed that the real issue in Vietnam was the effectiveness of the South Vietnamese government but whether the US would allow Communist aggression to stand in Vietnam. Apparently, Vietnam had turned into a test of American resolve; Kennedy hated the idea of failing the test. Slowly, over the next year, Kennedy escalated American involvement in the war.

By the end of 1962, the military had received what they wanted. The US had 11,300 officers operating in South Vietnam. Kennedy was told in early 1963 that the war was fast being won and that he could begin withdrawing troops by the end of the year. The war was far from being won.

South Vietnam was a mess. The Diem regime had become a nightmare. Either by the stealing of American aid and military supplies, it's refusal to implement land reform programs, or the continued attack on the Buddhist community; Diem had to go it the war was to be won. Kennedy agreed for the CIA to assist in a South Vietnamese army coup against Diem. On November 2, 1963, Diem was assassinated.

Kennedy still did not know was policy to pursue in Vietnam. He had already begun to speak to his advisers about pulling out. He had announced that he was pulling out 1,000 men from Vietnam at the end of the year. Kennedy, however, left no doubt that he will see the war through until he won reelection in 1964. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963. The only thing certain about Kennedy's role in Vietnam before he died was that he had escalated America's military, political, and maybe psychological commitment to Vietnam.

Yet another in the oh-so-long-line of factually skewed and biased polls.

It is difficult to gage the level of violation of trust the MSM have engaged in over these recent campaign cycles. It’s not your fault and I don’t blame you. The American public deserve nothing more than the straight delivery of news, not the editor’s take on the news to color the opinion of the receiver!

I certainly will agree with your assessment that, "The Iraqi Government has to lift up their fat butts and unite its people".

However, that opinion is not new. It has been the hallmark of the Bush Administration’s Iraq policy that “when they stand up, we will stand down”! It’s amazing that this is actually staring to occur, but you won’t hear about it from the MSM without their snide comment about the administration.

You will not get straight news from any of the darlings in the media since they’re wholly in the tank for “their” candidate. And YOU SHOULD BE TOO! (According to them.) And if you don’t vote that way, there must be something wrong with you! It’s the same thing with the Hollywood set. Just because they’re on TV that makes them more politically aware than the American public? How elitist is that?

I do my own research since the MSM have abdicated their integrity as demonstrated by their promoting of the Op-Ed to a full-fledged front page news story!

"Slanting the facts is the most basic took in and editor's stock of techniques to bias a story in favor of the publisher's editorial point of view. Facts may be slanted in four basic ways: omission, distortion, falsification, and emphasis."

ref: Bob Kohn, Journalistic Fraud, (Nashville: WND Books, 2003), 91.

I was in that place for a while ...having voted for and campaigned for Hillary....but when I realized what a disaster McCain was....I embraced Obama as the only logical choice.

Oh and speaking of kicking dogs....
McCain's national finance co-chair, when drunk in college, looked on and did nothing as dog was killed, then barbecued.

http://www.correntewire.com/m...
I swear I’m not making this up! And it saddens me, just a little, truly. I would have thought that McCain, having been tortured, would be the very last Republican candidate to throw his hat in this particular ring:
arrested about 2 a.m. and held in the county jail all day after sheriff’s deputies found a blood-spattered, unoccupied car about 1:15 a.m. at the entrance to Vicary’s Park on Kickapoo Creek Road near Peoria, Ill.

Joined by Sheriff Harry P. Backes, two deputies had found two men walking toward the park entrance; the two men told the deputies that they had struck a dog and were going to bury it.
Further investigation revealed three others hiding in some weeds, the sheriff said. Because the men’s car was saturated with blood and they gave conflicting stories at the time of their arrest, Sheriff Backes thought there might have been a connection between the dog incident and a strong-arm robbery earlier in the evening.

After checking the blood-spattered pants of one of the men at the state crime laboratory in Springfield, it was determined that the stains were animal and not human blood. Backes said the men then changed their story and said they had “caught a dog and were barbecuing it.”

I told you I wasn’t making this up.

Police then found the skinned animal on a spit in the park. The insides of the dog had been removed, and a bottle of liquor was found on a nearby park table. Backes said the men told him they had been drinking earlier in the evening at a West Bluff tavern.

One of the men arrested in the incident, in which a dog was killed, skinned, gutted and barbecued on a spit, was Frederick V. Malek, 22, of Berwyn, Ill.

Charges of cruelty to animals were later dismissed against Malek and three other men after Andrew P. O’Meara testified that he had struck and killed the dog with a piece of 2-by-4, and that he alone had skinned the animal and tried to cook it. O’Meara said he was trying to show Malek and the others something about living off the land.

This account is based on two 1959 news articles, one on Aug. 8 and one on Aug. 11, in the Peoria Journal Star newspaper.
“Living off the land,” eh? Sounds like these guys were real Boy Scouts. Well, Republican Boy Scouts, anyhow.

Before obtaining the articles from the Journal Star, I spoke with Malek by phone yesterday. He said he and O’Meara went to Peoria in the summer of ’59 to visit friends at Bradley University. They got drunk out of their minds at the time. [Malek] said he didn’t know why O’Meara had killed the dog, that he was not a participant and that he was in no position to stop it.

Really. Malek couldn’t say No? Malek was bound and gagged? Malek was on the moon, observing the events through a powerful telescope? Jesus told Malek it was OK to kill this dog, because it was a stray? Barbecued dog is a pleasing odor to the Lord? (Leviticus 1:9)

What’s wrong with these people? I did plenty of things in college while not completely sober, but watching a dog get f*cking barbecued was not fu*king one of them.

Of course, there seem to have been plenty of other strange events that Malek was in “no position” to stop. Colbert King:
The SEC charged that in 1998 the Connecticut treasurer, Paul J. Silvester, used state pension investments in Malek’s company to reward a friend and political supporter, William DiBella, former majority leader of the Connecticut Senate.
Fred Malek and his company, for their failure to disclose to the pension fund (and pensioners) the side deal to retain and pay DiBella nearly $375,000 — and without admitting or denying the SEC’s findings — consented to the issuance of a cease-and-desist order censuring him and his company. Malek’s company was ordered to pay a civil penalty of $150,000, and he was personally made to pay a civil penalty of $100,000.

That wasn’t ancient history or a youthful indiscretion [Oh, snap!]. The year: 2004. Malek was 67 years old.

And now, of course, Fred Malek is John McCain’s Finance Director.

Nice.

NOTE Here’s the list of Republican animal abuses and kinkiness that I’ve been able to collect so far. Readers, feel free to pass along any tips!
Abuse
1. George Felix Allen: “shoved” a severed deer’s head into a black family’s mailbox;
2. George W. Bush: Blew up frogs by shoving firecrackers up their ass and lighting the fuse, while a child;
3. Bill “Hello Kitty” Frist: Stole cats from the pound, treated them like pets, and only then dissected them;
4. Rudy Giuliani’s current wife, Judy: Used puppies to demonstrate surgical staplers on sales calls, then had the puppies put down;
5. Mike Huckabee’s son, David: hanged a dog, slit its throat, then stoned it to death while a Boy Scout;
6. Willard Mitt Romney: Strapped his dog Seamus on top of his car during a long car trip, until a “brown liquid” ran down the back window.http://time-blog.com/s...

We’ve got three Senators, two Governors, three Presidential candidates, one putative President. These are not “isolated incidents.” We’re looking at the Republican aristocracy here, and animal abuse is pervasive among them and their families. It’s no wonder that they turned us into a nation of torturers.
What’s wrong with these people?

Fred Malek, a Dog and the SEC
By Colbert I. King
Saturday, March 11, 2006; Page A19
http://www.washingtonpost.com...

On a Friday in August 1959, five men in their twenties were arrested about 2 a.m. and held in the county jail all day after sheriff's deputies found a blood-spattered, unoccupied car about 1:15 a.m. at the entrance to Vicary's Park on Kickapoo Creek Road near Peoria, Ill.

Bill,you are so full of crap it must be coming out your ears.. do you just make this up as you go.. how about using some facts..some truth. Of course in these countries where they are glorified for bombing themselves and others.. martyrs.. there will always be someone doing that.. but then they also stone people for being unfaithful, for a woman not covering her face etc.. not what we would call normal behaviour.. so that will always be there..nothing to do with leaving the country with a government that can manage the business from day to day and police that can keep control over the radical factions so that peace can be maintained.. that is why we will need people there for some time in order to keep the peace until those issues can be managed. The surge has made a big difference..it has worked and everyone has acknowledged that except for mr smartass obama who would not admit that it has worked if it was his last words..
We are talking ridiculous now.. Obama knows nothing about military matters.. He said he had to talk to General Patraeus first.. so he did.. then he said the opposite of what the General said.. like he KNOWS BETTER THAN A GENERAL!!! how ridiculous..he is so arrogant that he assumes that he knows better than those in charge..that is a dangerous attitude to have. He is so inexperienced in every field that this is a perfect example of how he would have our country so screwed it would not take long to hit the skids. Speaking of that.. if you think that the factions in Iraq will unite.. ever.. you can think again.. at most they might call a truce but unite.. no more than the democratic party will unite.. that is how much chance they have. For you to say that Obama is right.. shows how much knowledge you have as well.. and to call down McCain for his ads that are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON .. Obama dissed the vets..and the whole trip was nothing more than a photo op.. the only reason there were so many people in Berlin to be at the gathering was because of the rock concert.. just like he pulled in Oregon.. same thing..Obama is phoney.. he lies and pretends that things are other than what they are.. who the hell wants a president that is an obvious liar and a greenhorn that doesn't know red from green, yes from no .. ??