
Mark Levin stated that he would vote for an empty can over Obama. Would you?
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SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/06/27 20:57:43Yes






















The Obama Record: May's weak jobs report further confirms the president's policies are failing to help the economy. This is, indeed, the worst recovery since the Depression.
• The share of Americans who've been out of work a long time — now at 42% of the unemployed — is the highest since the Great Depression (source: Labor Department).
• The proportion of the civilian working-age population actually working, at 58%, is the smallest since the Carter era (Labor Department).
• Growth in nonfarm payroll jobs since the recovery began in June 2009 is the slowest of any comparable recovery since World War II (Hoover Institution).
• The rate of new business startups — the engine of job growth — has plunged to an all-time low of 7.87% of all businesses (Census Bureau).
• 3 in 10 young adults can't find jobs and live with their parents, highest since the 1950s (Pew Research).
• 54% of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 are jobless or underemployed, the highest share in decades (Northeastern University).
• Black teen unemployment, now at 37%, is near Depression-era highs (Labor Department).
• Almost 1 in 6 Americans are now poor — the highest ratio in 30 years — and the total number of poor, at 49.1 million, i...
The Obama Record: May's weak jobs report further confirms the president's policies are failing to help the economy. This is, indeed, the worst recovery since the Depression.
• The share of Americans who've been out of work a long time — now at 42% of the unemployed — is the highest since the Great Depression (source: Labor Department).
• The proportion of the civilian working-age population actually working, at 58%, is the smallest since the Carter era (Labor Department).
• Growth in nonfarm payroll jobs since the recovery began in June 2009 is the slowest of any comparable recovery since World War II (Hoover Institution).
• The rate of new business startups — the engine of job growth — has plunged to an all-time low of 7.87% of all businesses (Census Bureau).
• 3 in 10 young adults can't find jobs and live with their parents, highest since the 1950s (Pew Research).
• 54% of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 are jobless or underemployed, the highest share in decades (Northeastern University).
• Black teen unemployment, now at 37%, is near Depression-era highs (Labor Department).
• Almost 1 in 6 Americans are now poor — the highest ratio in 30 years — and the total number of poor, at 49.1 million, is the largest on record (Census).
• The number of Americans on food stamps — 45 million recipients, or 1 in 7 residents — also is the highest on record (Congressional Budget Office).
http://news.investors.com/art...
Obama was the president since Jan 2009. Liberals controlled Congress until Jan 2011.
Every business group in America supports Republicans including the Black Chamber of Commerce. There are fighting that Marxist in the White House.
“Harry Alford, president and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce, blasted President Obama’s anti-business administration in an explosive interview. Alford, a 2008 Obama supporter, labeled the administration “Marxist” and “fanatical.” “They might as well put on the brown shirts and swastikas,” he said.”
http://visiontoamerica.org/35...
Business organizations spent at least 45 million dollars to dump 63 Marxist Liberal from the House into the street in the 2010 elections. Small business owners don't support Obama Liberals. They are not going to create jobs with that Marxist in the White House. It is too risky.
Of course business supports republicans. Big business is in their pocket - they have an interest in the republican agenda of no regulations, no restrictions, exporting jobs, not having to do a damn thing for their employees - duh. And small businesses, well, I guess they are just dumb.
But once in congress, the republicans haven't done a damn thing about jobs. They've spent their time and energy assaulting womens rights - jobs jobs jobs - and by that we mean abortion.
Hopefully they've pissed off enough women to get their worthless asses thrown out, along with their regressive agenda. And since the idiots at your only news source have deluded you into thinking this isn't true, allow me to school you with some facts:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmem...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/20...
this one was extra stupid because federal funding for abortions is already prohibited. Your republican lawmakers out there making jobs!
http://thehill.com/blogs/floo...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/p...
http://bigmedia....
Of course business supports republicans. Big business is in their pocket - they have an interest in the republican agenda of no regulations, no restrictions, exporting jobs, not having to do a damn thing for their employees - duh. And small businesses, well, I guess they are just dumb.
But once in congress, the republicans haven't done a damn thing about jobs. They've spent their time and energy assaulting womens rights - jobs jobs jobs - and by that we mean abortion.
Hopefully they've pissed off enough women to get their worthless asses thrown out, along with their regressive agenda. And since the idiots at your only news source have deluded you into thinking this isn't true, allow me to school you with some facts:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmem...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/20...
this one was extra stupid because federal funding for abortions is already prohibited. Your republican lawmakers out there making jobs!
http://thehill.com/blogs/floo...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/p...
http://bigmedia.org/2011/12/1...
Also every business organiztion in Amerca is fighting that Marxist Liberal's economic policies including the Black Chamber of Commerce.
Obama policies wouldn't create any jobs according to the vast majority of small buisness owners. They are fighting every policy the Liberal has. Of course his policies only buy votes with welfare programs.
Small Buisness owners aren't going to bet their money on Marxist Liberal.
small business owners aren't economists. Running a country is a bit more complicated than running a small business. And I repeat the republicans have done NOTHING about creating jobs as they campaigned on. They have destroyed quite a few, however. Their agenda has been purely obstructionist.
Obviously they have been filibustering in the senate, and they have been doing that for 4 years. I'm not going to retype the paragraph I already wrote. I shouldn't even have to be saying this at all. It falls under the category of "duh".
the epithets are really tiresome. I try not to use them because I find them extremely annoying and childish. Could we try to be a bit more adult and use names?
Obama couldn't run a hotdog stand but he has no problem running the country (into the ground).
When he screws up he doesn't loose any money like small business owners do. Only tax payers get screwed when Obama screws up. So far they have been screwed for over 5 trillion dollars of Obamadebt.
Small business owners can't do anything about Obamadebt except try to dump that Marxist into the street.
Perhaps you would enjoy being better informed.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mi...
http://www.reuters.com/articl...
http://www.frbatlanta.org/cen...
That may keep you busy for a while. And of course it is a matter of public record that the republicans are responsible for the layoffs of federal workers. You know - that jobs, jobs, jobs, by which we mean abortion agenda of the gop.
I am not going on a snipe hunt. Ambiguity is a fallacy, a breakdown in logic. You need to get specific and then I will slam you with facts!
Marxism doesn't work!
Sorry you are too lazy to be informed. But then I guess I already know as much about you as I need to. An intelligent person is willing to learn, and recognizes that no one already knows everything. Have a nice day.
I told you state your point. Provide a quote from you reference that provides facts. Then provide the reference. Let me show you how simple it is.
My Point: Small buisness owners are fighting that Marxist in the White House.
My quote: "Sixteen percent of small businesses approve of the job President Obama is doing."
My Reference:
http://www.uschambersmallbusi...
Argue with my facts with your own facts but you can't!
my references aren't about marxism, genius. I have already stated that pure socialism doesn't work. They are about the economy, since as I recall somewhere you said something about obamas policies destroying business and generally failing.
But of course you would have to look at them to know that.
You have made an extremely narrow point. I am making an effort to educate you on the broader picture of the economy. I'm not really interested in arguing with you because frankly I do not find you to be a worthy opponent. I'm tired of your childish insults, your arrogance,your pompousness, and your tunnel vision. Furthermore, your refusal to open your mind and take in information on a topic you claim to know about and certainly have opinions on shows me that you don't have much of a brain.
Yes, genius, I know how to do what you are asking me to do. I just don't want to do it with you.
You said; "Yes, genius, I know how to do what you are asking me to do. I just don't want to do it with you."
You can't do it because facts never support party line crap. Marxism doesn't work!
No, Liberals can't produce facts to support the party line. If you get specific, I will slam you with facts.
Liberals can only pretend they can produce facts. You can't get specific. Therefore, you try to argue with the fallacy of ambiguity and provide refernces without quotes.
I am about to start belittling your third grade name calling. Name calling is Standard Liberal Operating Procedure (SLOP).
I would also recommend consulting a surgeon about removing the statue of karl marx from your rectum.
No, you should grow.
Well, you’re an idiot.
No, no, you’re an idiot.
Doesn’t that sound like two 3rd grade Liberals in an argument? I am way to intelligent to participate in 3rd grade personal name calling but it seams to work for you.
It is a fact that most investors are capitalist and Republicans are capitalist which is why they are not betting a dime on Obama. Therefore, to say Republicans in the House are killing jobs is absurd. They are stopping Obama from killing more jobs.
Small business owners overwhelmingly support Republicans and want them to stop Obama’s big government regulations. Small business owners, corporations, and investors have this massive Super Pac to fight that Marxist in the White House.
The Supreme Courts decision is just going to get more money contributed to fight Marxism.
Apparently, you couldn't argue and now you are in total personal attack mode but again your reply was also the fallacy of Shooting the Messenger.
You should probably look a little more closely at the money in that super pac - assuming you even can - there are some that they are not required to disclose. I'm thinking you'll find much of the funding comes from not so small businesses and individuals.
Americans for prosperity?
Freedomworks?
to name a couple.
The only thing you have going for yourself is a massive ego. Stop trying to kid yourself. You aren't fooling me.
Here's a topic you've dodged. If your precious republican legislators are so interested in jobs jobs jobs, then why has their legislative agenda been abortion? I made that point a while back, supported with references, and you conveniently ignored it - followed by your usual ad hominems - you know - all the stuff you keep accusing me of doing.
Tell the truth for once - you're just trying to get me to block you, aren't you?
What they spent in 2010 is nothing compared to what they are spending to defeat that Marxist Liberal currently in the White House.
Obamacare puts a tax on small businesses when they hire. Only a Marxist Liberal like Obama would tax an employer for hiring someone. It doesn’t take a mental giant to figure out why small businesses are fighting Obama.
Whether you block me or not is no concern of mine. Marxist Liberals block to protect themselves from facts because facts never support party line crap. Blocking is Standard Liberal Operating Procedure (SLOP).
Let's try facts from surveys of small businesses by the US Chamber of Commerce.
• “Concerns about over-regulation are the highest we’ve seen in the past year, with 42% of small businesses citing it as a major concern and 52% citing regulations as the top threat to their business, increasing 9 percentage points since last June."
• "What do concerns about regulations and policies mean for small businesses? Stalled growth. 80% of small businesses surveyed report the taxation, regulation, and legislation from Washington make it harder for their business to hire more employees. Nearly three-out-of-four (73%) of small businesses surveyed cite the recent health care law as an obstacle to growing their business and hiring more employees.”
Do small businesses support Obama's policies?
"Sixteen percent of small businesses approve of the job President Obama is doing."
http://www.uschambersmallbusi...
Yet you keep ignoring my question. If the republicans care so much about small business, then why are they legislating abortion? You can find my references in one of my previous iterations of this question - that you have also conveniently ignored.
Furthermore, just because small businesses are worried about regulation does not mean those concerns are valid. It is very easy to convince a frightened ill informed and ignorant group of people - like republicans - that big bad scary democrats are going to make them do all sorts of terrible things like not throw their trash in the ocean or not dump their hydrocarbons in the water table and all those awful rules that won't let them do those things will make them lose money which will be a horrible disaster and they will all go broke and then the entire us and then world economy will collapse. Add a few hyperventilating faux commentators and the next thing you know you've got a full fledged, flag flying, tea bagging movement. Based on nothing.
Finally, in case you miss it in the other question - your definition of marxism is flawed and inaccurate. Here is a definition from an online reference:
Marx·ism
[mahrk-siz-...
Yet you keep ignoring my question. If the republicans care so much about small business, then why are they legislating abortion? You can find my references in one of my previous iterations of this question - that you have also conveniently ignored.
Furthermore, just because small businesses are worried about regulation does not mean those concerns are valid. It is very easy to convince a frightened ill informed and ignorant group of people - like republicans - that big bad scary democrats are going to make them do all sorts of terrible things like not throw their trash in the ocean or not dump their hydrocarbons in the water table and all those awful rules that won't let them do those things will make them lose money which will be a horrible disaster and they will all go broke and then the entire us and then world economy will collapse. Add a few hyperventilating faux commentators and the next thing you know you've got a full fledged, flag flying, tea bagging movement. Based on nothing.
Finally, in case you miss it in the other question - your definition of marxism is flawed and inaccurate. Here is a definition from an online reference:
Marx·ism
[mahrk-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society.
This fundamental definition change makes your arguments invalid.
Thanks for playing.
Small businesses are for sensible regulations. You need sensible government regulations for businesses to operate. For the EPA to fine refineries for not using a chemical that doesn’t exist isn’t a sensible regulation.
I didn’t define Marxism, I defined a Marxist.
Below is the results of Obama's big government regulations.
The Obama Record: May's weak jobs report further confirms the president's policies are failing to help the economy. This is, indeed, the worst recovery since the Depression.
• The share of Americans who've been out of work a long time — now at 42% of the unemployed — is the highest since the Great Depression (source: Labor Department).
• The proportion of the civilian working-age population actually working, at 58%, is the smallest since the Carter era (Labor Department).
• Growth in nonfarm payroll jobs since the recovery began in June 2009 is the slowest of any comparable recovery since World War II (Hoover Institution).
• The rate of new business startups — the engine of job growth — has plunged to an all-time low of 7.87% of all businesses (Census Bureau).
What you haven't answered (still) is what your precious republicans are doing about all those terrible awful statistics. Other than banning abortion. Seeing as how they were swept into power in 2010 with promises of jobs jobs jobs, and of course what they actual meant was abortion, abortion, abortion. And other than providing jobs in abortion clinics, and making young women into high school grads and employees rather than welfare moms, you're right, abortions do not have anything to do with jobs. So why are your beloved republicans spending their efforts on abortions, and not on jobs?
Marxist:
"adj. Following the ideals of Marxism." You did not define a marxist. Your definition was wholly inadequate, insufficient, and your conclusions were false.
but once again, thanks for playing.
And of course the reason this is the worst recovery since the depression is because it is the worst recession since the depression.
duh.
Karl Marx decides who is a Marxist with his teachings and ideology. Karl Marx said; from those according to their abilities to those according to their needs.
Marxist Liberals steal from those with abilities and buy votes from those with needs. That is why Karl Marx said; Democracy is the road to socialism.
Marxism has nothing to do with means of productions. It has to do with buying votes with welfare programs, something for nothing. Vote for me and I will transfer wealth to you.
It is the worst recession because Marxism doesn't work! Every business group in America is fighting that Marxist Liberal in the white house. You think they are going to bet their money on him?
No, genius that is not why marx said democracy is the road to socialism. He said that because he predicted the sort of thing that is happening in our country - because of the unrestrained capitalism creating a very wealthy upper class, and a very large poor lower class with a huge distance between them. Marx expected industrialized countries to go socialist. Where did you get your history - the back of cereal boxes?
It is the worst recession since the depression for a lot of reasons, none of which have to do with your beliefs about marx. However, if you want to look at unregulated, unrestrained capitalism and bad behavior by financial institutions, that would be a good place to begin. And if you want to whine about the debt, that big hole started escalating with 2 unfunded wars and a huge unfunded tax cut. It is generally agreed that running a deficit is necessary in a recession, and that the recovery from the great depression was slowed by stoppin...
No, genius that is not why marx said democracy is the road to socialism. He said that because he predicted the sort of thing that is happening in our country - because of the unrestrained capitalism creating a very wealthy upper class, and a very large poor lower class with a huge distance between them. Marx expected industrialized countries to go socialist. Where did you get your history - the back of cereal boxes?
It is the worst recession since the depression for a lot of reasons, none of which have to do with your beliefs about marx. However, if you want to look at unregulated, unrestrained capitalism and bad behavior by financial institutions, that would be a good place to begin. And if you want to whine about the debt, that big hole started escalating with 2 unfunded wars and a huge unfunded tax cut. It is generally agreed that running a deficit is necessary in a recession, and that the recovery from the great depression was slowed by stopping government spending too early.
And as usual you have nothing to say for the legislative record of your precious republicans.
So much for slamming me with facts. No only do you have no facts to slam me with, you don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Stop digging before you hit china.
Let's try facts from surveys of small businesses by the US Chamber of Commerce.
• “Concerns about over-regulation are the highest we’ve seen in the past year, with 42% of small businesses citing it as a major concern and 52% citing regulations as the top threat to their business, increasing 9 percentage points since last June."
• "What do concerns about regulations and policies mean for small businesses? Stalled growth. 80% of small businesses surveyed report the taxation, regulation, and legislation from Washington make it harder for their business to hire more employees. Nearly three-out-of-four (73%) of small businesses surveyed cite the recent health care law as an obstacle to growing their business and hiring more employees.”
"Sixteen percent of small businesses approve of the job President Obama is doing."
http://www.uschambersmallbusi...