Marine Sgt. Given Less Than Honorable Discharge For Anti-Obama Remarks. Fair or Foul?

The policy since the Civil War is not to have Military personnal to be political. A few years ago a couple of service members were tossed from th Military for wearing their Uniforms to a Gay parade. The Sarge should have know the rules he was a NON COM

Its hard for me to decide on this issue. One hand he was expressing his right to free speech in his off time. Its not like he made those statements while on duty. On the other hand he did disrespect the highest link in our chain of command, The Commander and Chief (even though i dont like it I still have to respect the position). But a lot of amnesty has been given to the left side of this with DADT. Before its repeal, people in the armed forces violated direct orders and policy and appeared in uniform at gay parades, marches, protest and rallies and were granted amnesty. Even allowed to reenlist after being discharged by court martial. They were granted this under the right of "freedom of expression" now a marine has been kicked out because of the same thing.

I think someone was just trying to get out of serving.

One cannot criticize his employer, no matter how despicable he/she may deem that employer and not expect to be fired. Unfortunately, the former Sgt. Stein will have a blot on his record that will follow him for the rest of his life. The short-term punishment is fair. The long-term punishment is not.

That's stupid if you ask me. How can you get a less than honorable discharge for just something you said on Facebook. That's ridiculous!

It's not stupid, at all. There are a lot of Americans who have lost their jobs over idiotic things they said on Facebook. Why should the military be any different?

Who cares what you say on Facebook? It's a free world, you know? If you ask me, that means we're being policed even over the internet. The internet should be free, and you shouldn't be reprimanded for what you say on Facebook.

I don't care what a person says on Facebook, but I know for a fact that people have indeed lost their jobs over stupid things they've said while on Facebook. This idiot failed to follow the orders of a direct superior officer. He was treated justly (and very leniently, if you ask me) under military law.

Yes. I do see what you mean. Maybe there's more to it than what he posted on Facebook. :)

We warriors do not enjoy the freedom of speech that civilians do. We know that and do not complain about it. We thrive pursuant to our oath of service and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Yep. I know. I was in the Navy. Military justice is a lot different from civilians justice.

well i say foul but with a stipulation that as being a former member of the armed forces....it is your fault if you get a gig from posting what you think

People need to understand the Military has its own laws. Thats why its called Military Justice.

Guess free speech is not American value anymore...bark

Not in the military it isn't. They have their own code of conduct, This guy blatantly disregarded it, even after being warned.

I served for six years... so it is true what you say...BUT... it is still american way to have free speech.... regardless of one's career.... bark

Given that a lot of Americans have lost their jobs because of some ridiculously stupid things they've said on Facebook, why should those in military be treated any different?

Face what? bark

Then you should know that the guy violated the oath he took and disobeyed orders.

Truth matters...aha..bark

Fair.

(Sorry no evil meaning. They just look alike and I had to say it. Somebody had to say it.)

These young marines are still human and can see what is happening in the Country they love and have promised to protect...It is just as frustrating to them as to us, maybe even more..Seems we Americans are held at a higher standard then the rest of the world..

But ONLY because he did so AS a U.S. soldier. Using is position as a member of active duty member of the military as he did was over the line.

He spoke the truth.

It's harsh but he knew before he ever posted that this could happen.

Obama is his commander and Chief. He deserved what he got.

Obama is a terrible excuse for a leader, so why repect the turkey!

Well I'm sure that if this guy had spouted off about not wanting to follow orders, and included crap about "Allah is great!", he would've been given a free pass, just like the murderer who infiltrated the military at Ft. Hood.

They give there lives so we can have free speech.What are they getting for it?
Obama can knock this country.He shouldn't even be President.

I unfortunately had to put down Fair in this case since it is in their code of ethics....not that Barry follows the constitution at all or anything resembling ethics. I feel for the guy....he only put something on his Facebook page. I do understand though...the military can't be partisan.

The good thing is he is out. who wants to be in the military now ? you will be thrown around by Barry's liberal causes and now that he has an "atrocities czar" they'll be whipping boys for his whims. Barry doesn't appreciate his military.

You talk crap about your boss and bad things happen.

Go find a job in the private sector, and Shut UP

Broke his oath taken when he entered the service, goodbye.

Not much doubt in my mind that orders from above made this decision.

I understand what the UCMJ says but if that Marine makes a statement on Facebook and does not declare that He is a Marine, then He is making a statement on his own and not that of a Official Marine statement.

Obama hates the Military anyway and i know the Secret Service don't much like him either. If I was active Military now, I would feel the same and say the same things too about Obama but use a different name.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh but now that I am Retired Navy, I can call Obama a Scum Bag and be glad that He was Never, My Commander In chief.

Your dinosaurs walking the earth with man will never make it to the Funk and Wagnalls swabbie.

Actually I have some Books on Creation that say they did and that is good enough for me anyway

You seem to think that your gullibility is a super power.

NO, I know for sure that the Super Power I trust is alive and well and his name is Jesus Christ

Keep dreaming, Skippy.

Y a Well I dream that the JACK ASS IN CHIEF YOU LOVE GETS SCREWED IN NOVEMBER