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Manditary in god we trust license plates gorgia..Is this bill Unconstitutional?

American☆Atheist 2011/12/12 02:24:39
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  • seathanaich 2011/12/20 04:03:56
    yes
    seathanaich
    Of course it is, but then so is your currency.
  • Raven 2011/12/12 19:22:54
    no
    Raven
    Unconstitutional? Get out the printing presses and send in your bills and coinage immediately!

    unconstitutional printing presses send bills coinage immediately

    It's not mandatory! People will not be forced to use this plate. You can buy a sticker for $1 to put over the words or you can use any other specialty plates.
  • America... Raven 2011/12/12 21:19:11
    American☆Atheist
    you have to pay to cover it up. it IS forcing it. you would not like it if it say "bless allah"

    and it is illegal to put on money.
  • Raven America... 2011/12/13 00:27:20
    Raven
    Even the extremely liberal 9th circuit court of appeals disagrees with you about it being illegal to put on money.

    Any legal challenge to the phrase is unlikely to prevail.

    In North Carolina, the Davidson County Government Center had the phrase “In God We Trust” inscribed on its facade. In the legal challenge, Lambeth v. Board of Commissioners, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit found no Establishment Clause violation:

    We have heretofore characterized the phrase, “In God We Trust,” when used as the national motto on coins and currency, as a “patriotic and ceremonial motto” with “no theological or ritualistic impact.”

    The Supreme Court denied cert, so the Fourth Circuit’s ruling stands.

    The case of Aronow v. United States challenged the use of “In God We Trust” by the United States Government on its coinage, currency, claiming an Establishment Clause violation. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit sidestepped the District Court’s ruling that the plaintiff lacked standing and ruled on the merits of the case. The Ninth Circuit held:

    It is quite obvious that the national motto and the slogan on coinage and currency “In God We Trust” has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of a patriotic or ceremonial...


    Even the extremely liberal 9th circuit court of appeals disagrees with you about it being illegal to put on money.

    Any legal challenge to the phrase is unlikely to prevail.

    In North Carolina, the Davidson County Government Center had the phrase “In God We Trust” inscribed on its facade. In the legal challenge, Lambeth v. Board of Commissioners, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit found no Establishment Clause violation:

    We have heretofore characterized the phrase, “In God We Trust,” when used as the national motto on coins and currency, as a “patriotic and ceremonial motto” with “no theological or ritualistic impact.”

    The Supreme Court denied cert, so the Fourth Circuit’s ruling stands.

    The case of Aronow v. United States challenged the use of “In God We Trust” by the United States Government on its coinage, currency, claiming an Establishment Clause violation. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit sidestepped the District Court’s ruling that the plaintiff lacked standing and ruled on the merits of the case. The Ninth Circuit held:

    It is quite obvious that the national motto and the slogan on coinage and currency “In God We Trust” has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of a patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise.

    Again, the Supreme Court denied cert, so the Ninth Circuit’s ruling stands.
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  • America... Raven 2011/12/20 06:03:14
    American☆Atheist
    it does not matter, it is clearly by christian that themselves say it means we are a christian nation.
  • America... Raven 2011/12/20 06:02:04
    American☆Atheist
    thanks for pointing that out, THAT is also unconstitutional. You can not force ppl to buy a sticker to cover it up. why do we have to buy a sticker, why not just cross it out? why not buy a christian sticker? why not just follow the constitution?
  • elijahin24 2011/12/12 17:55:27
    yes
    elijahin24
    +1
    This is totally unconstitutional. But Georgia is among the United States of Jesus.
  • holyheretic 2011/12/12 09:03:04
  • America... holyher... 2011/12/12 18:51:03
    American☆Atheist
    +1
    u mean yes?
  • holyher... America... 2011/12/13 11:37:59
  • seathan... holyher... 2011/12/20 04:06:52
    seathanaich
    +1
    Sorry, but your graphic showing western Canada as part of "Metro Jesus Land" couldn't be further from the truth. British Columbia is the least religious part of North America, with the "non-religious" being a whopping 33% of the population in the 2001 Census. Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba are ALL less religious than Ontario and Atlantic Canada. Thanks mate.
  • holyher... seathan... 2012/01/01 07:18:55
  • seathan... holyher... 2012/01/03 19:30:29
    seathanaich
    +1
    Yes, that division is accurate. Cheers.
  • Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA 2011/12/12 03:30:33
    no
    Pedro Doller ~POTL-PWCM~JLA
    +1
    It's as unconstitutional as using the US Dollar. It's printed on every dollar.
  • America... Pedro D... 2011/12/12 18:50:12 (edited)
    American☆Atheist
    +1
    u mean yes?

    oh you were being sarcastic...but you are right though, minus the sarcasm.
  • Riobhca 2011/12/12 03:30:00
    no
    Riobhca
    Of course not. It's not forcing people to practice any particular religion or to believe anything in particular, but rather it's a commentary on how faith has been a prominent element in our nation's history.
  • elijahin24 Riobhca 2011/12/12 17:56:05
    elijahin24
    +1
    It's forcing them to advertize a particular religion.
  • America... Riobhca 2011/12/12 21:19:42
    American☆Atheist
    but this is for american plates
  • Rebel Uke 2011/12/12 03:25:45
    yes
    Rebel Uke
    +6
    of course it is, im disappointed with my own state!
  • Ty ~ PHAET 2011/12/12 02:54:16 (edited)
    yes
    Ty ~ PHAET
    +3
    So, I have to pay extra to not have other people's views imposed upon me? I sincerely don't think this will pass, but then again, this is the Bible Belt we're talking about. Next we'll look for "Straight & Proud" tags that gays will have to pay to cover up.

    And here I was thinking that my state was better than most others in the Bible Belt.
  • shultzhound 2011/12/12 02:48:37
    no
    shultzhound
    +4
    "In God We Trust" is not a religion, pick your god what ever it may be, money, toys, gambling, mine is:
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    What they have to offer. I pray at the alter of the bedroom every chance I get.
  • Ty ~ PHAET shultzh... 2011/12/12 02:53:47
    Ty ~ PHAET
    +1
    I'm quite fond of chocolate, also.
  • shultzh... Ty ~ PHAET 2011/12/12 03:04:58
    shultzhound
    +1
    Yes but the question is: Do you worship at the alter of the bedroom and what the chocolate has to offer?
  • Ty ~ PHAET shultzh... 2011/12/12 03:14:39
    Ty ~ PHAET
    +1
    Indeed I do. I'm a devout believer, and I hold true to my faith.
  • shultzh... Ty ~ PHAET 2011/12/12 03:17:25
    shultzhound
    +2
    Then enter brother into the order of the Chocolate:
    video vixens video vixens

    You are required one booty call per night.
  • lindsey... shultzh... 2011/12/12 05:14:36
    lindsey.hollands
    +1
    I... I was going to disagree with you, but then the pictures.
  • shultzh... lindsey... 2011/12/12 16:07:48
    shultzhound
    Yes these are my goddess, :)
  • lil crazy 2011/12/12 02:47:01
    yes
    lil crazy
    +3
    It is also a waste of time and money better spent on bills that matter.
  • sheratan 2011/12/12 02:41:54 (edited)
    yes
    sheratan
    +4
    The Establishment clause of the First Amendment:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

    applies to States too by virtue of the Due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    The Supreme Court incorporated the Establishment clause against the states.
    in Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947)

    "The 'establishment of religion' clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between Church and State.'"

    Justice Hugo Black, 330 U.S. 1, 15-16.
  • Saker sheratan 2011/12/12 03:08:59
    Saker
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
    how we get from that to Black's opinion is beyond me..
  • sheratan Saker 2011/12/12 03:10:26
    sheratan
    Black's opinion in Everson v. Board of Education, the case that incorporated the Establishment clause against the States.
  • Saker 2011/12/12 02:31:34
    no
    Saker
    It is a state issue..
  • America... Saker 2011/12/12 02:37:34
    American☆Atheist
    no, states follow the Constitution. what if it said "allah"?
  • Saker America... 2011/12/12 02:43:04
    Saker
    Where in the Constitution does it say you cannot put "God", or "Allah", or "Bhuddah" on state correspondence, commerce, or any other state generated entity??

    Go and look at United States Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights, and pay attention to amendments 1 and 10..

    I hope this helps!
  • sheratan Saker 2011/12/12 02:49:03
    sheratan
    +2
    The Establishment clause of the First Amendment was incorporated (applied) against the State by the Supreme Court through the Due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
  • Saker sheratan 2011/12/12 02:52:31
    Saker
    +1
    Never mistake Supreme Court precedent for constitutionality..
  • sheratan Saker 2011/12/12 02:57:48 (edited)
    sheratan
    +2
    In Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U.S. 1 (1958), the Supreme Court held that:

    The states are bound by the Court's decisions, and cannot choose to ignore them.

    The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land per the Supremacy Clause of Article VI. In Marbury v. Madison, the federal judiciary was declared the supreme authority with respect to Constitutional interpretation.

    Marbury v. Madison has been respected by the Court and the nation as a permanent and indispensable component of the American constitutional system of government.

    The Court noted that its interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment was the supreme law of the land and that it had a "binding effect" on the states.

    By refusing to conform to the Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Constitution and precedent, state government officials violate their oath to support the Constitution. To rule otherwise would make the Constitution a solemn mockery.
  • Saker sheratan 2011/12/12 03:01:29
    Saker
    Again, precedent. Nowhere does it say that states cannot put "God" on states correspondence. What are you referring to that makes the Georgia plates unconstitutional?
  • sheratan Saker 2011/12/12 03:08:09
    sheratan
    +2
    The First Amendment prohibit the Establishment of religion by Congress. This was later applied to states by the Fourteenth Amendment.

    Putting "God" on states correspondence is a State endorsement of a religion and is prohibited by the First Amendment.
  • Saker sheratan 2011/12/12 03:11:32
    Saker
    Yet, on our currency is that same endorsement at the Federal level!

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