Man jailed for holding bible study at home. Does he deserve jail?
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2012/08/06 14:03:51
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The married father of six is an ordained pastor of Church of God in Christ and founder of Harvest Christian Fellowship. He and his family believe he has the right to worship at home on his private property.
"The only people who came to our home were family and friends," Salman said in a video posted online before he reported to jail this week. "Our home was not open to the public; it was private."
His wife, Suzanne Salman, said her husband's constitutional rights have been violated.
"Christians deserve the right to gather at their homes privately just like every other American has the right to gather for their reasons," she told FoxNews.com.
Read More: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/05/arizona-man-s...
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cmdrbnd007 2012/08/06 14:12:53Yes.
+19There would be as many as 80 people there in his Bible study. I'm sorry that is not a Bible study that is a worship service. Imagine all the cars parked in the streets and imagine you live on that street. He was not jailed because of the Bible study he was jailed because of the number of people. He needs to find a separate building if there are going to be that many people attending. This was a zoning code violation and my guess is it was also a fire hazard.
For example , Mr Salman first came to the attention of The North Glen neighborhood at large (1 sq. mile) 4 or 5 years ago when he, first intentionally, and with out proper permitting, built outside of his property lines and in to the public "Right of Way" and proceed to file for an abandonment and "taking" of ROW that had already been dedicated for the future extension of an existing street.
The neighborhood resisted, with the support of the Phoenix City Council.
I would not want to be neighbors with someone who had Bible Studies of up to 80 people. All the Bible studies I have attended were up to 12 people at the most. He was having church not Bible study in his home. He collected tithes.
He had been warned previously, yet did not take the warnings to heart. Maybe the sentence was too long, but he needed a wake-up call. What was going to make him realize having 80 people in your home, whether friends or family could be dangerous?
As I said I have been to Bible Studies in the home before. This man was performing church services, not a Bible Study. I was never asked for tithes at Bible Study, but in Church I was.
Again, I do believe in the Freedom of Religion.
The tax-exempt has some framer work in Acts like say.. The Homestead Act of 1862.. thus for The courts to carry out a arrest warrant with out any real danger to him self or person or Country as a whole..thus would be a rejection of due processes of law -exaggerated false pretence for arrest---pro thus would be unconstitutional based on not limited to what could be constitued as a taxble matter. the Sales Tax on things sold was to be the truth of taxs Thus part of the Voluntary tax system history..the federal enforement would not or could be forced unless there was a war being fought on American Soil...declared by the houses of congress--thus I would fight it for seeking to conspire to derpive..thus out lined Civil rights Acts 1871--
Take a look at Salman's attorney.
Building a Movement
Right Wing 101
"The Rutherford Institute - John W. Whitehead
John W. Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, has gone to great lengths to conceal the ideological leanings of his Christian Right legal center in statements to the mass media. He told the New York Times that "Oh, gosh, no," he had no political agenda in representing Paula Jones, and that he had founded the Rutherford Institute by himself. The New York Times reporter described The Rutherford Institute as "a kind of evangelical Christian civil liberties union."118
Whitehead's claims misrepresent the group. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, is blunt, "Our files on the Institute go back 10 years. After examining the material, we can safely say Whitehead is not being honest in his description of his organization."119
From its founding, the Rutherford Institute has pursued a highly-politicized ultra-conservative agenda. A review of Rutherford Institute newsletters, reports, and direct mail appeals going back seven years shows a long pattern of attacks on liberals in government and President Clinton in particular. Whitehead consistently puts forward an apocalyptic...
Take a look at Salman's attorney.
Building a Movement
Right Wing 101
"The Rutherford Institute - John W. Whitehead
John W. Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, has gone to great lengths to conceal the ideological leanings of his Christian Right legal center in statements to the mass media. He told the New York Times that "Oh, gosh, no," he had no political agenda in representing Paula Jones, and that he had founded the Rutherford Institute by himself. The New York Times reporter described The Rutherford Institute as "a kind of evangelical Christian civil liberties union."118
Whitehead's claims misrepresent the group. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, is blunt, "Our files on the Institute go back 10 years. After examining the material, we can safely say Whitehead is not being honest in his description of his organization."119
From its founding, the Rutherford Institute has pursued a highly-politicized ultra-conservative agenda. A review of Rutherford Institute newsletters, reports, and direct mail appeals going back seven years shows a long pattern of attacks on liberals in government and President Clinton in particular. Whitehead consistently puts forward an apocalyptic conspiracist vision of devout Christian activists under concerted attack by corrupt and repressive government officials in the service of godless and immoral secular humanism.
That is the REAL issue...Not the Bible study!
I have watched this story unfold for several years now and it is my opinion that it has always been about creating an opportunity to sue this, selif insured, city.
Watch for the inevitable lawsuit that will follow this arrest.
They most definitely would have a hate on with him if he tried to get a permit to build a game room when in fact he was trying to build a church. Now that was a complete lie.to also re-enforce his bid for tax free status.
the real problem that i have if he was able to educate about tax exempt, he should be able to educate ab out zoning and building code
Michael Salman is serving a 60-day sentence in Maricopa County's notorious Tent City jail for allegedly violating his probation by holding religious services on his property in violation of zoning and building codes. He was arrested July 9, after authorities charged the one-time gang member hosted Bible sessions for as many 80 people on his 4-acre property, which he tried to claim as a tax-exempt church.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/201...
http://phoenix.gov/news/07121...
Don't be so insulting. I haven't insulted You.
As for the obstruction of traffic what if a emergency service truck such as the fire brigade or police had to ho through there? What if on of the neighbours had an emergency? Too many factors for that simplistic answer.