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Makes you wonder what Mitt is hiding in those tax records don't it? Why won't Romney release more tax returns?

BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/07/18 12:31:16
Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
No, it's ok for him to hide his finances from the people he will represent.
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So, what are the issues?

The first is Romney's Swiss bank account. Most presidential candidates don't think it appropriate to bet that the U.S. dollar will lose value by speculating in Swiss Francs, which is basically the rationale offered by the trustee of Romney's "blind" trust for opening this account. What's more, if you really want just to speculate on foreign currencies, you don't need a Swiss bank account to do so.

The Swiss bank account raises tax compliance questions, too.

The account seems to have been closed early in 2010, but was the income in fact reported on earlier tax returns? Did the Romneys timely file the required disclosure forms to the Treasury Department (so-called FBAR reports)?

The IRS announced in 2009 a partial tax amnesty for unreported foreign bank accounts, in light of the Justice Department's criminal investigations involving several Swiss banks. To date, some 34,500 Americans have taken advantage of such amnesty programs. Did the Romneys avail themselves of any of these amnesty programs? One hopes that such a suggestion is preposterous, but that is what disclosure is for -- to replace speculation with truth-telling to the American people.

Second, Romney's $100 million IRA is remarkable in its size. Even under the most generous assumptions, Romney would have been restricted to annual contributions of $30,000 while he worked at Bain. How does this grow to $100 million?

One possibility is that a truly mighty oak sprang up virtually overnight from relatively tiny annual acorns because of the unprecedented prescience of every one of Romney's investment choices.

Another, which on its face is quite plausible, is that Romney stuffed far more into his retirement plans each year than the maximum allowed by law by claiming that the stock of the Bain company deals that the retirement plan acquired had only a nominal value. He presumably would have done so by relying on a special IRS "safe harbor" rule relating to the taxation of a service partner's receipt of such interests, but that rule emphatically does not apply to an interest when sold to a retirement plan, which is supposed to be measured by its true fair market value.

Third, the vast amounts in Romney's family trusts raise a parallel question: Did Romney report and pay gift tax on the funding of these trusts or did he claim similarly unreasonable valuations, which likewise would have exposed him to serious penalties if all the facts were known?Fourth, the complexity of Romney's one publicly released tax return, with all its foreign accounts, trusts, corporations and partnerships, leaves even experts (including us) scratching their heads. Disclosure of multiple years' tax returns is part of the answer here, but in this case it isn't sufficient. Romney's financial affairs are so arcane, so opaque and so tied up in his continuing income from Bain Capital that more is needed, including an explanation of the $100 million IRA.

Finally, there's the puzzle of the Romneys' extraordinarily low effective tax rate.

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  • Southern Man 2012/07/18 12:35:21
    Undecided
    Southern Man
    +8
    Can we see 0bama transcripts or anything about him ?? ... you talk about Mitt well lets see 0bama has shown us nothing ...

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  • Jenna 2012/07/18 23:49:10
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    Jenna
    Occupy people take note: Romney's reported income in 2010 was $21.6 million. He's worth at least a quarter billion. He made money in his Bain company in a way similar to that popularized in the film Other People's Money--by stripping companies of value and allowing them to go bankrupt. He hardly represents the common American. I'm sure his election committee does not consider it useful to put this information in everyone's face just before the election.
  • BobbyOdd 2012/07/18 21:50:49
    Undecided
    BobbyOdd
    traditionally they release 2 years, not 12 as they keep demanding.
  • Reggie☮ 2012/07/18 18:55:39
    Undecided
    Reggie☮
    We know a lot more about Romney than we do about Obama. Romney's loaded........ so what.
  • Kiosk Kid 2012/07/18 15:32:24
    Undecided
    Kiosk Kid
    He released what is was suppose to release in accordance with the law.

    I wonder why Obama hasn't released his school records. Is he hiding something?
  • Starman 2012/07/18 15:25:25
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    Starman
    His tax returns will show the lie of his involvement with Bain well past 1999. I doubt it will show anything illegal, just his willingness to deceive the American people.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/07/18 15:17:44
    No, it's ok for him to hide his finances from the people he will represent.
    jackolantyrn356
    gEE YOUR HAPPY ASS WAS SO PROUD OF TH SKULL; DRUDGERY OL Kenyan DID IN HIDING HIS bIRTH rECORDS AND THE AMPOUNT OF REAL EDUCATION HE HAS HAD. (as LIE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM...... THE ULTIMATE EMPTY SUIT) get HIM FROM THE white House BEFORE HE DECIDES TO DESTROY T HE ART TREASURES THERE
  • Don 2012/07/18 15:09:45
    Undecided
    Don
    +1
    This will come as a shock to you libs - He's fabulously RICH!
    He has provided the 2010 return and will release the 2011 return when it's finalized. This is more than is required for a canidate.
    Why would he provide 20 years of returns for liberal thugs to nit pick and raise more false charges.
    "Swiss bank account raises questions" - only to liberal frauds. It's legal and even limousiine liberals like Pelousy do the same thing. And he paid taxes on it.
    Romney is an amazing success, and failures like Empty Suit that couldn't run a lemonaide stand have to try to tear him down. Good luck with that.
    Democraps are frauds.
  • Racefish 2012/07/18 15:08:43
    No, it's ok for him to hide his finances from the people he will represent.
    Racefish
    +1
    No more-so than Obama even hiding his college transcripts. Get real. Pelosi has more money over seas than Romney in all likelihood.
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/07/18 14:15:28
    Undecided
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    If he evaded taxes and did something illegal the IRS would have come after him. By the way we still don't know much if anything about Obama's history do we?
    Did ya ever think that maybe the majority of all tax regulations,laws and rules are unconstitutional?
  • Bronar 2012/07/18 14:02:27
    Undecided
    Bronar
    +1
    I don't wonder any more than I do about Obama's college records, his closed door meetings while coming up with the med program, or the lack of transparency of Obama's administration. I want to know about what the two candidates will do to move our country and the world's economy ahead and out of this tax, spend and coddle socialism that is pulling Europe and the rest of the world into the abyss.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/07/18 13:51:05
    Undecided
    Kane Fernau
    +1
    It's not Romney's money. He didn't earn that! The Government decided he'd be one of the chosen ones. It's the government's money. If Romney's tax returns show he was doing something illegal wouldn't the IRS go after him?
  • MandaLynne 2012/07/18 13:50:40
    Undecided
    MandaLynne
    +2
    He has released the past two years.

    I am more concerned with all the records Obama is hiding. We know less about President Obama than perhaps any other president in American history and much of this is due to actual efforts to hide his record.

    Obama’s high-priced lawyers have built walls around various records or simply made them disappear. It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

    The president who campaigned for a more “open government” and “full disclosure” will not unseal his medical records, his school records, his birth records or his passport records. He will not release his Harvard records, his Columbia College records, or his Occidental College records—he will not even release his Columbia College thesis. All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate are missing and he claims his scheduling records during those State Senate years are lost as well. In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

    This concerns me far more than a few years Romney's of tax records.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/07/18 13:45:14
    Undecided
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    He has already released more information, tax forms included, than obaaaaama has. obaaaaama sealed much of his background, Romney has not.

    OBAAAAMA CAN'T RUN ON HIS OWN RECORD

    obama can t run on his own record
  • wildcat 2012/07/18 13:40:46
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    wildcat
    +1
    What he is hiding would probably cost him this election. Kind of runs to the whole "character of the man" issue doesn't it?
  • fuzzy K... wildcat 2012/07/18 13:59:26
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    You could say the same for Obama.
  • wildcat fuzzy K... 2012/07/18 14:03:56
    wildcat
    What is he hiding in any offshore accounts? Why nothing, he has none.
  • fuzzy K... wildcat 2012/07/18 16:25:32
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    I guess he's hiding the same thing as many politicians on BOTH sides do. Money.

    Remember the UBS scandal two years ago? Most people never heard of it because it affected BOTH high ranking Republicans and Democrats.

    So what's Obama hiding in his college transcripts and papers? Why has he spent millions to hide them?
  • wildcat fuzzy K... 2012/07/18 18:47:58
    wildcat
    what's to hide, just request a transcript.
  • fuzzy K... wildcat 2012/07/18 19:26:38
    fuzzy Ken "In G-d We Trust"
    You're kinda uninformed, aren't you?
  • Waldorf 2012/07/18 13:32:27
    No, it's ok for him to hide his finances from the people he will represent.
    Waldorf
    +1
    This stuff is irrelevant and just an attempt by The Left to control the dialogue with stuff that doesn't matter, but which gets blown up by THEIR media to somehow be big issues. Romney isn't responding, nor should he, because he is not taking the bait to get drawn into the swamp of slinging poop, at which The Left seems to excel.

    media issues romney responding bait drawn swamp slinging poop excel
  • Rebel Yell 2012/07/18 13:32:23
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    Rebel Yell
    +1
    David Cay Johnston is a well-known former New York Times reporter, Pulitzer Prize winner, and the author of the major books Perfectly Legal and Free Lunch. He wants to ask Mitt the following questions:

    1. Did you buy any illegal or gray area tax shelters?
    2. Did an IRS audit ever uncover serious problems with any of
    your tax returns?
    3. Did you make use of offshore vehicles to defer, or avoid paying, federal income taxes?
    4. Did you take advantage of any tax strategies that the IRS did not uncover in audits?
    5. Did you fully tithe to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints every year and take a deduction on your tax return that shows that?

    There is the possibility that maybe not everything Romney has done tax-wise has been legal. A story told by a former Bain employee tells about how Romney encouraged him to lie to get secret information on competitors. It is a slap in the face to take a $77,000 tax deduction for his 1/3 interest in a Dressage Horse EVERY Year as a business expense. If you or I took a deduction like this, we would find ourselves in prison for tax evasion
  • wtw 2012/07/18 13:27:10
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    wtw
    +3
    What is Obama hiding with his college records--Romney should say you show me your, I show you mine~
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/18 13:26:32
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    Trying to hide his GREED?
  • Souther... Lady Wh... 2012/07/18 13:56:44
    Southern Man
    0bama is spending Millions to hide his past let's see his then we can get to Mitt first things first
  • Mr.Steve 2012/07/18 13:15:52
  • PJ Sweet Cheeks 2012/07/18 13:07:49 (edited)
    Undecided
    PJ  Sweet Cheeks
    +1
    Big Bad John.....The GOP has not even appointed him yet! When that happens I'm sure he will, but not until the Convention!

    Hell I'm still waiting to see Obama college records....still sealed!

    In fact here is an interesting video I just seen that I want to share;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • Cirsten Hahn 2012/07/18 12:51:24
    No, it's ok for him to hide his finances from the people he will represent.
    Cirsten Hahn
    +1
    I could care less! & besides - even if he showed ALL of them - someone, somewhere would find a sure negative on one - and run it for all its worth!
  • mwg0735 2012/07/18 12:43:24
  • Torchma... mwg0735 2012/07/18 13:46:49
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Amen to that. Show us the Fast and Furious documents that would get obaaaama impeached.
  • mwg0735 Torchma... 2012/07/18 13:55:46
  • Bob, the reasonable one 2012/07/18 12:43:16
    Undecided
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +4
    Where was the concern over Obama's sealed records? Voters in 2008 voted for an empty suit and an empty resume and the dems/press couldn't have cared less...yet McCain was forced to disclose his entire medical records, his financials, his voting record, and then the press printed every innuendo, false claims against Palin they could think of...We the American people had to endure the tsunami of irresponsible press releases that were pro-Obama and anti-McCain
  • BrianD3 2012/07/18 12:37:09
    Undecided
    BrianD3
    +4
    that is mighty decent of you to attack Romney for not sharing ALL of his private info when our current president has shared almost none of his.

    Dont you even get sick of the double standards?
  • BIG BAD JOHN R. 2012/07/18 12:35:41
    Yes, it sure makes you wonder what he is hiding.
    BIG BAD JOHN R.
    +3
    It sure does, He wants to be President and in that position he sure could make a lot more money by causing the nation to change in financial conditions and betting against or for the US economy. Why does he need a Swiss Bank account. Romney is in this for the money and his rich friends to get richer and to hell with the rest of the nation. romney romney romney romney
  • Kat ♪ BIG BAD... 2012/07/18 12:58:20
    Kat ♪
    +2
    Obama has foreign accounts and hasn't released his documents even though he is in office. Where is your concern over his wrongdoing? You are implying a private citizen has to show you all his records, but a government official doesn't.
    This hypocrisy is why I un-friended you and rarely respond to your drivel anymore..
  • Lady Wh... BIG BAD... 2012/07/18 13:27:37
    Lady Whitewolf
    "Romney is in this for the money and his rich friends to get richer and to hell with the rest of the nation..."

    E X A C T L Y
  • Torchma... Lady Wh... 2012/07/18 13:48:40
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    Romney doesn't NEED money and didn't take his Governors salary. That makes that statement a lie, just leftwing propaganda.
  • Souther... Torchma... 2012/07/18 13:59:13
    Southern Man
    Right on .... Romney is a self made Millionaire ....
  • Souther... Lady Wh... 2012/07/18 13:57:44
    Southern Man
    0bama is in this for the money and if you can't see that your blind
  • Southern Man 2012/07/18 12:35:21
    Undecided
    Southern Man
    +8
    Can we see 0bama transcripts or anything about him ?? ... you talk about Mitt well lets see 0bama has shown us nothing ...
  • R. Souther... 2012/07/18 12:43:21 (edited)
    R.
    +4
    Can we see Tim Geithner's tax returns or Charlie Rangle's ? Mitt is a candidate,
    obama is already elected and spending my money. I'd like to see some of the
    things he's hiding.

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