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LOL...this is so weird: As a Ron Paul supporter I no longer count as a conservative, according to some here on SH. How is this possible?

the_old_coach 2012/02/09 18:10:26
Come on, man...seriously, how do we Dr. Paul supporters no longer count as conservatives? That's dumb...
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  • Freedomwatcher 2012/02/09 20:23:46
    Freedomwatcher
    +9
    Self proclaimed Conservatives can't even give you a meaning of what the definiton of "Conservative" is, and usually any postitions they claim are conservative are big spending positions such as Strong National Defense, but in essence when you call them out that the majority of the 800+ billion dollar a year foreign policy includes massive waste that has nothing to do with National Security they just murmur that you are a liberal, which makes no sense when we as Libertarians are the most fiscally conservative amongst all RINO er I mean Republicans. I can name numerous examples but this is the first that comes to mind, and in my mind if you are not fiscally conservative, then you are not a conservative PERIOD!!

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  • LAAD Gunner - USMC 2012/02/15 02:28:52
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +1
    Well...apparently none of these...







    ...are desirable conservative qualities.

    Or MAYBE those so called "conservatives" really have no idea what the hell a conservative really is.
  • James 2012/02/12 02:38:33
  • Libertarian Right 2012/02/10 20:57:41
    Libertarian Right
    +2
    Neocons hijacked the term "conservative" in much the same way as progressives hijacked the term "liberal."
  • Someone Else 2012/02/10 12:47:14
    Someone Else
    +3
    Ron Paul is one of only two candidates competitive with Barack Obama. He’s one of only two candidates who will be on every state ballot. Of course, he’s the ONLY candidate with a 100% limited government conservative voting record.
  • A Founding Father 2012/02/10 07:02:18
    A Founding Father
    Why don't you define clearly here what a "Conservative" is and then we will decide if you and Ron Paul are being unfairly denied inclusion. Go ahead now, just tell us how we can recognize you as one of "them".
  • the_old... A Found... 2012/02/11 02:56:00 (edited)
  • A Found... the_old... 2012/02/11 03:20:59
    A Founding Father
    Thanks. You really don't know do you? There are a lot of RWNJs out there in the same condition, so you aren't alone in your miseries.
  • the_old... A Found... 2012/02/12 20:16:31
    the_old_coach
    +1
    I actually DO know and have given you examples of how I define the term and how others of similar persuasion define it.

    The definition you are looking for is here:

    http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu...

    which I agree might be what the far, far right still clings to, but by which most Americans would rise up in revolt at.

    Keep it up and you folks might just get the revolt you seem to want.
  • I am me 2012/02/10 05:33:34
    I am me
    +2
    Oh and don't worry, there are quite a few of us that support Ron Paul. Hell, even the conservatives "baby" the military loves Ron Paul. So much so most of his donations come from service members.
  • MrsJJS I am me 2012/02/10 06:09:05
    MrsJJS
    +2
    People should be taking heed of the activities of their relatives in the armed services. They’re at the “business end” of all this and if they’re sending their money that they had to put their life on the line to earn to Ron Paul, they obviously know something that a lot of folks back home seem to be unware of. You know the old saying, Actions speak louder than words.
  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/02/10 03:19:50
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    a conservative will admit when they are wrong...a paulistinian scrubs his question when they are PROVEN to be full of it right up to their little brown eyeballs
  • Steve ☮... Ballade... 2012/02/12 17:42:01
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    LOL. What a crock!
  • Ballade... Steve ☮... 2012/02/12 19:09:09
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    it happened ace to me by one of you
  • Steve ☮... Ballade... 2012/02/12 20:01:29
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    OK. So that justifies your statement whereby you absolutely insinuate that ALL Ron Paul supporters will "scrub his questions" when proven wrong on something?
  • Ballade... Steve ☮... 2012/02/12 20:04:50
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    talk to the guy that claims to be a 'sane one' he screwed up and then scrubbed his statement to cover it up when corrected..
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • Steve ☮... Ballade... 2012/02/12 20:07:51
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    Why don't you talk to him? I don't have to defend his statements simply because he supports the same candidate that I do. Grow up and realize that you're going to run into some boneheads in life but you can't find them guilty by association.
  • Ballade... Steve ☮... 2012/02/12 20:09:19
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    chuckle it shows the same drooling fanatical koolade drinking that seems to be the hallmark of Paulistinians, Weedbaggers, Paulbots and Paulsys
  • Someone Else 2012/02/10 03:03:47
    Someone Else
    +4
    Who care's
    If you like Ron Paul vote for him I do and I will. It's called independent thinking something the hard right and left thinks crazy. Many of us have learned to stand on our own feet and convictions. Something the sheep will never understand
  • Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/02/10 02:50:10
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +4
    You're not a conservative for supporting the person with the most conservative voting record in the past century?
    What is this world coming to?
  • Swany 2012/02/10 02:46:20
    Swany
    +4
    Trying to stop Ron Paul reminds me of the little Dutch boy trying to plug holes in a breaking damn. A voice speaks the truth and they attempt to silence it, then 10 more voices speak out, and say "We want Our Constitution back." The rats fear the truth, but they can't shut us all up. Not this time. Ron paul hero
  • I am me 2012/02/10 02:11:44 (edited)
    I am me
    +3
    Meh. I agree he is libertarian and I would rather be libertarian to be honest because I'm tired of this whole socialist/fascist back and forth we have now. :-/
  • H H 2012/02/10 02:00:00
    H H
    Paul is a Libertarian, not a conservative. He is conservative on economics but as far to the left as one can get on immigration. A country with open borders loses its character and what defines it as a country. Once the immigrant demographic becomes large enough, no conservative will ever be elected again. Paul's policies would be political and social suicide for America.
  • Swany H H 2012/02/10 02:49:37
    Swany
    +4
    DR Paul wants to close our boarders. So I don't know where you got your info at?
  • Dan ☮ R... H H 2012/02/10 02:51:19
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    Romney and Gingrich being for Amnesty isnt left, when Paul wanting to cut of the illegal alien welfare is left?
  • Steve ☮... H H 2012/02/12 17:44:53
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    I think you should do even a shred of research on RP's stance on our borders before you make statements like this.

    As for Libertarians not being conservatives, that's hilarious!
  • Wolfman 2012/02/10 00:34:50
    Wolfman
    +2
    Paul is not a conservative. Paul is a Libertarian, a conservative/liberal mixture. Ask Paul.
  • Someone... Wolfman 2012/02/10 02:59:33
    Someone Else
    +1
    Liberal Conservatism now there's an idea
  • Wolfman Someone... 2012/02/10 03:10:26
    Wolfman
    They are a peculiar lot. Part Barry Goldwater and part Teddy Kennedy.
  • the_old... Wolfman 2012/02/10 03:28:29
    the_old_coach
    +1
    For what it is worth, I AM Libertarian, but I identify as a conservative. I'm certainly not as socially conservative as some, but I am a fiscal conservative and I am a Constitutionalist.
  • Wolfman the_old... 2012/02/10 03:39:51
    Wolfman
    +1
    For what its worth, I have voted Libertarian although there's not a Liberal thought in my head.
  • Someone... the_old... 2012/02/10 12:44:30
    Someone Else
    +2
    Ron Paul is one of only two candidates competitive with Barack Obama. He’s one of only two candidates who will be on every state ballot. Of course, he’s the ONLY candidate with a 100% limited government conservative voting record.
  • Steve ☮... the_old... 2012/02/12 17:48:14
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    There is nothing conservaive about the people who call themselves "social conservatives". The fact that they want the government involved in pushing their beliefs on others takes the conservatism right out of them.
  • Steve ☮... Wolfman 2012/02/12 17:47:09
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    LOL. The funniest thing in all of this is that fact that you can't see the irony in the group known as "social coservatives". They are the ones who want the government to impose their beliefs on others. There is nothing conservative about these people. But keep believing there is.
  • Wolfman Steve ☮... 2012/02/12 18:04:57
    Wolfman
    uh-huh.
  • 9th of 9 2012/02/10 00:17:51
    9th of 9
    +2
    They probably think it a compliment, them, knowing, they are not one. Not even close.
  • Cal 2012/02/10 00:12:14
    Cal
    +2
    You can be anything you want to be. Ron Paul is a libertarian however, which does not translate to conservative. YOU can be whatever you want, but stop with the belief mix matching, it's annoying as all hell. You certainly can't deny Paul is a libertarian, he admits it, proudly! As he should - there's nothing wrong with that. However it's a different way of political belief.
  • Semper Fi 2012/02/09 23:44:57
    Semper Fi
    +3
    I wouldn't lose a moment of sleep over it my friend.
  • sbtbill 2012/02/09 23:10:18
    sbtbill
    +3
    Ron Paul is not a conservative. He has a radical economic policy and radical social policies. Some of his policies are very good, much better then his competitors.
  • Lee The Hybrid Snowflake 2012/02/09 23:07:43
    Lee The Hybrid Snowflake
    +2
    LOL Funny stuff right. I like when they call me RINO like that means anything to me, maybe they woulld prefer I vote Democrat.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/02/09 22:46:36
    Kane Fernau
    +3
    You have to decide for yourself. Paul supporters seem to range from very Conservative to anarchists.

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