LOL. PAUL RYAN as Vice President? Winning Ticket?
captainquiggle
2012/08/11 12:43:29
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This has to be the dumbest idea I've seen floated out of the GOP in the last year, but they've done it. They've gone with a VP that's way worse than Romney and now they think they've got a chance in hell.
See you in four years, guys.
EDIT: New data has emerged from FOX NEWS about the RYAN budget plan.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/14/fact-check-ryan-bu...
"Ryan's proposal calls for cutting the corporate tax rate from 35
percent to 25 percent. It would implement two individual income tax
brackets -- 10 percent and 25 percent.
See you in four years, guys.
EDIT: New data has emerged from FOX NEWS about the RYAN budget plan.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/14/fact-check-ryan-bu...
"Ryan's proposal calls for cutting the corporate tax rate from 35
percent to 25 percent. It would implement two individual income tax
brackets -- 10 percent and 25 percent.
While claims that Ryan is slashing the budget are questionable, there
are studies to back up claims that the Republicans' tax plans benefit
the wealthy more than others.
A June study from the Joint Economic Committee -- which is chaired by
a Democrat -- claims middle-class married couples could pay at least an
extra $1,300 under Ryan's plan, while those earning more than $1
million a year could see a nearly $290,000 cut.
According to an Aug. 1 study released by the Tax Policy Center,
Romney's tax plan would also include cuts that "predominantly favor
upper-income taxpayers."
It projected taxpayers making more than $1 million would see tax cuts
averaging $175,000. Those making between $75,000 and $100,000 would see
an average tax cut of $1,800. And those making under $30,000 would see
an average increase of $130, according to the report."
Ryan is the one that's KNOWN for his budget arguments.
We all know WHY they haven't been able to pass a budget. Who was it that held up EVERYTHING until TAX CUTS were extended? Not the Dems, my friend.
The GOP has been blocked everything that the Dems try to push. It's gotten so bad that the Dems have, on occasion, just decide not to show anything to the GOP because they KNOW it'll be rejected.
The GOP has no willingness to work with the Dems on ANYTHING. That's why this CONGRESS has the worst approval records ever.
1) Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act for Women
2) New Credit Card Legislation
3) FDA to regulate Tabacco Companies
4) Passing Hate Crimes legislation (now protecting Gays)
5) Improving Children's Health Insurance
6) Taking Banks out of College Loans
7) Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
8) Cash for Clunkers (boost Auto Sales)
9) Auto Bailouts
10) The Stimulus Bill (single largest tax cut EVER, largest investment in clean energy EVER, the single largest investment in education EVER)
11) Universal Health Care (improving health care for MILLIONS of Americans, controlling health care costs)
12) Financial Reform Bill (curbing excesses on Wall Street, protecting consumers)
13) Approved most funding EVER for VA
14) Extended VA access to Veterans
15) Additional Assistance for Caregivers of Veterans AND Female Veterans (more was done in the 21 months of that Congress for Veterans services in ways of funding than anything done beforehand)
16) 25 separate tax cuts
17) Most significant Land Conservation Bill in the last two decades.
18) Created a Consumer Financial Protection Agency
19) Shrank US Deficit Spending in 2010
( http://www.rawstory.com/rs/20... )
What has the GOP done since?
NOTHING. They can't even let a budget pass. Obviously, the Democrats wer...
1) Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act for Women
2) New Credit Card Legislation
3) FDA to regulate Tabacco Companies
4) Passing Hate Crimes legislation (now protecting Gays)
5) Improving Children's Health Insurance
6) Taking Banks out of College Loans
7) Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
8) Cash for Clunkers (boost Auto Sales)
9) Auto Bailouts
10) The Stimulus Bill (single largest tax cut EVER, largest investment in clean energy EVER, the single largest investment in education EVER)
11) Universal Health Care (improving health care for MILLIONS of Americans, controlling health care costs)
12) Financial Reform Bill (curbing excesses on Wall Street, protecting consumers)
13) Approved most funding EVER for VA
14) Extended VA access to Veterans
15) Additional Assistance for Caregivers of Veterans AND Female Veterans (more was done in the 21 months of that Congress for Veterans services in ways of funding than anything done beforehand)
16) 25 separate tax cuts
17) Most significant Land Conservation Bill in the last two decades.
18) Created a Consumer Financial Protection Agency
19) Shrank US Deficit Spending in 2010
( http://www.rawstory.com/rs/20... )
What has the GOP done since?
NOTHING. They can't even let a budget pass. Obviously, the Democrats were hard at work for the people, though, and you can't argue that. Republicans spent their last FOUR YEARS trying to ruin Obama and nothing much else.
Unless you want to talk about abortion and contraception rights, I'm not sure what the GOP has had a hand in recently.
If you want to talk about what the Dems did in Congress, they did plenty. What has the GOP done? Not much.
By the way the dependency party controlled both Houses of congress from 2007-2011.
What you're saying is that the GOP, with 2 years of power has done nothing to improve anything in the country AT ALL. They've done NOTHING.
Unemployment is at a half percent increase from when Obama took over, and that's after losing over 4 million jobs. If anything, that's pretty impressive to recover in less than 4 years.
Aetna is one of many companies that have and will see their premiums drop under Obamacare. Keep trying to dole out the fear.
It's nice you complain about the deficit, but the Dems actually did something about that while they were in power. Or, you don't bother to read links anymore?
Yeah, your argument is grinding to a halt.
What has the GOP done for America in these last two years? NOTHING. Care to detail what they've accomplished?
Really and the 3 million less people in the workforce? Sorry but if you want an accurate comparison to the employment picture you have to look at the U6 number.
Yes they did something about it, they expanded the deficit.
They have stopped Obama from completely ruining the greatest nation on earth, quite an accomplishment.
You want to talk abotu u6 numbers? Are you serious? The U6 number is lower NOW than it was in Feb 2009... you know, that first month that Obama was in office. So, if anything, despite loosing 4 million jobs in the first year of his presidency, due to things he had no power over, he's held U6 numbers at a standstill.
In 2010, I've pointed out already the Dems closed deficit spending.
The GOP has done nothing. You've got very little to stand on. The GOP is a laughing stock of the American people, especially when it comes to Congress.
Due to things he had no power over? Wow you are full of excuses for this vapid suit, good job!
Really, closed deficit spending by not passing a budget? The deficit is going down by 100 billion, at that rate, over the next 30 years we may stop spending more than we take in. His promise was to cut the deficit in HALF. Sorry but 100 billion out of 1.4 Trillion is not half. Maybe it is in dependency mantra, but not in reality.
I guess you've looked at the U6 numbers and concluded the same as I have. They aren't skyrocketing, as you once thought.
2010, look at that year and look at spending. You can complain that 100 billion isn't 500 billion or 700 billion, but it's a lot, especially compared with all the other stuff on his plate, he was still able to save 100 billion.
How that's not an accomplishment is beyond me. You can hem and haw in your glass tower atop your own personal mountain while you count your gold coins, now. Almost nap time, isn't it?
100 billion out of 1.4 trillion is nothing considering he raised the baseline by a trillion with the stimulus.
And it is the end of your Socialist "make people dependent on the government" world that is at hand.
The choice is between proven failure and possibility.
Time for Ho, Bo and CO to go!
Pennsylvania Judge just upheld voter I.D. law! That means..... Put PA in the Romney/Ryan column! Im telling you 'captainguiggle,' obama will lose by an absolute landslide!
He ruled that it was legal for legislators to make laws about require people to show ID, but he didn't rule on the legality of doing such on the basis of there being massive voter fraud.
Just wait and see how the big boys do this.
So, I take it you're against voter I.D.? What are you affraid of?
I'm afraid of the same thing the Right is hoping for and already admitted to: voter suppression to hand the vote over to Romney.
I would like to make sure that every legal voter gets the right to vote without having irrational fears make them ineligible.
I would say that IF someone is not willing to make a simple phone call and request the state to drive to them, take a picture and give them an instant I.D. card is probably not someone worthy of that privilege in the first place? Yes?
I don't know enough about the judge from the Philly area who is the "swing" judge in this case. Do you? OS
No matter how 'liberal' that Philly judge might be, to reverse the decision of the lower court would not give just reason to reverse it, unless he were strictly acting on political grounds!
Remember how everyone thought that Obamacare was illegal? Well, it wasn't. I was on the right side of the law then, and I will be with this issue.
All anyone has to do it prove that so many people are without an ID and can't get one in time.
Now, if there's some huge outreach and everyone gets an ID in time, I have not a problem in the world with that, but the state has to make an effort to make that happen. It's their job to make sure something they require to vote is as easy as possible to get.
If it isn't and the state doesn't make it such, guess what happens? Law overturned.
So… should you want to say that obamacare passed on its’ own merit… you would be wrong! It passed because we were told an absolute and complete LIE! :(
Captain... Im going to ask you to understand the LAW you are saying has NO CHANCE to pass! The Pennsylvania law, just like the South Carolina law mandates that State I.D.'s will be provided at NO EXPENSE to any individual who desires one! It even has provisions that require the State to drive to the residence of the needed individual with camera and photo I.D. material to present an I.D. on the spot!
Thus far in the entire state of South Carolina, 13 such request has been made and have received stated I.D. cards! Well... as of mid July! I believe that is when I read that story?
It's a tax in as much as you can't levy a penalty for people that legally don't want to have health care coverage.
Will it be the highest tax increase ever? Nope. that's a lie.
If you don't have health care and refuse to have it-- that's the only way you get hit with a tax as is argued by the court.
If you have health care, what Obamacare tax are you paying? Nothing.
South Carolina's voter ID law was blocked. I'm not sure why anyone's rushing to comply with it.
750 thousand people (at least) don't have proper ID in Penn. Please explain how Penn, which is already understaffed for all things voting, is going to issue that many IDs in 60 days or so. Explain.
I'm waiting.
The fact that 750,000 illegals in Pa won't get to vote makes my heart happy! :)
It's the law of the land, and if you want to call it a tax, then by all means, make it a tax. I don't really care. It's taking 700 billion out of medicare, dropping medicare costs of coverage and extending benefits for medicare by 8 years. How can you hate that?
But, I know you prize your tanning salon appointments so much. LOL.
IF they are taking money OUT of Medicare do to fruad and abuse, then was that money that belongs in Medicare and Social Security? Why take it out IF the system is in such finacial peril?
You're being "childish" with your salon comment! Be that again, and I will drop you like an ugly duckling.
Now, how do we propose that we get 750k people ID in the next couple of months? Is the state making house calls? Doubt it. In short: they aren't trying to get these people ID to vote. Should they? YEP.
Who said they were taking money out of Medicare to do fraud and abuse? Not me. I guess you didn't hear the part about making Medicare cheaper to run and extending benefits for 8 years for everyone on it. I guess that didn't actually cross your mind the first time, so there it goes again.
You're here complaining about taxes on tanning salons and I'm talking about Medicare.
If you're so upset about taxes being levied, you should take a look at Romney's imaginative tax plan he used for Mass. They didn't call him "Fee-Fee" for nothing.
To argue that illegals are voting when there's not proof of such would be to appeal to probability where you think that because IT COULD HAPPEN, it's will happen, even in the face of there being nothing to suggest that. You are arguing using a formal fallacy.
You are demonstrating and error in logic. It's a common fallacy called an "appeal to probability." I've tried to explain this to you before, but you wouldn't listen.
Until you can show it's happening and committing massive fraud, I'm not concerned with your argument.