Levy Report out: what should Israel do?
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The Levy Report started a debate that demands that someone decide.
Only Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel can decide. He is at
heart a politician. So he might not want to decide. But now he must.
The Levy Report in detail
The Levy Report takes its name from Edmond Levy, retired Chief
Justice of the Israel Supreme Court. He headed the “Commission to
Examine the Status of Building in Judea and Samaria.” The Levy Report says:
Judea and Samaria (a/k/a “The West Bank”) are not “occupied
territories” in the classical sense. If anything, Israel got some of its
own land back in the 1967 War. (Jordan seized the land unlawfully in
1950. Before then, the Jews lived in that land for thirty-five hundred
years. Jordan has since renounced its claims.)
- The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 does not apply here. The
government of Israel has never forced a single Jew to live in that land. - The government of Israel cannot pretend that they did not authorize any given settlement.
- The government should make up its mind about letting Jews settle
there. It should say forthrightly whether it will let them settle or
not, and where. - Building within bounds of a settlement shouldn’t need a ministry official to let that happen. But the Minister of Defense should sign off on extending the bounds of a settlement.
The rest of the report discusses how to let a settlement expand, what
to do if a settlement didn’t submit a town plan, and how to resolve
conflicting claims to any land.
How Israel and the world reacts
The National Palestinian Authority rejected the Levy Report. This should surprise no one. A spokesman for PA chief Mahmoud Abbas said:
We will not sign any peace agreement if there is a [single] settlement on Palestinian Land.
The problem: what is “Palestinian land”? The PA went on to demand all
of the West Bank territory. (They spoke of “pre-1967 borders,” which
means the Green Line or 1949 Armistice Line.) In that case, the PA
really said that they want to make their land Judenrein, or
“Jew-free.” In case anyone still doubts that, the PA also said that they
want East Jerusalem back as the capital city of a new “Palestinian
state.”
Liberal Jews, in and out of Israel, are afraid to do the obvious thing: annex Judea and Samaria completely. Jonathan Rosen wrote in The Jerusalem Post
that every Israeli government since the Oslo Accords have said that
they wouldn’t let any Jews settle in the region. But the Jews settled
anyway. The government pretended that it never authorized them to
settle.
Legalizing the outposts would put an end to that façade
and would be a slap in the face of the international community,
including Israel’s friends and allies.
That much is true. The Levy Report does tell the government to drop
all pretense that it never let any Jews settle in Judea or Samaria after
the Oslo Accords. Prime Minister Netanyahu set up the Levy Commission,
and now he will have to decide. Does he accept the Levy Report, or not?
Rosen says that Netanyahu will not.
If he does not, then he will be acting like a politician. A statesman would accept the Levy Report and everything that it implies.That includes recognizing Judea and Samaria as belonging to Israel alone.
Trudy Rubin, in The Philadelphia Inquirer, calls
for Netanyahu to do the political thing. She offers two reasons for
this. Both are specious. First, she says that the Israel Defense Forces
would have to stand down and “hand back” the land. The Levy Report
suggests no such thing. Second, she is afraid that admitting 2.5 million
new Arab citizens would let the Arabs outvote the Jews in all of
Israel. She must rely on old demographic projections that simply do not
hold. In fact, Jews would still outnumber Arabs two-to-one, all told.
That ratio is not likely to fall and is more likely to rise.
Knesset Member Tzipi Hotovely wants the government to accept the Levy Report now. She is writing a bill to that effect and will introduce it to the Knesset.
The Edmund Levy report made a very clear legal
statement,” said Hotovely. “It said that every Israeli government can
build anywhere in Judea and Samaria and it said, in a very clear voice,
that this is not conquered land when it comes to international law
She stopped short of calling on the government to annex the land. But
today the Women in Green will open their second annual convention to
ask for exactly that. Yeshiva World News clearly wants
the same thing, though it is afraid that this will not happen. YWN
blamed “successive secular leaders” since Levi Eshkol for putting Israel
where it now sits, Eshkol was Prime Minister during the Six-Day War.
Naftali Bennett, in March of 2012, suggested doing something in-between: annexing only part of the West Bank land. The Oslo Accords divided the West Bank into three “areas,” though only one area is all in one piece:
- Area A: the cities of Jenin, Nablus, Ramallah, Jericho, Bethlehem,
and Hebron, certain areas immediately around them, and another area
south of Salfit. The PA, and only the PA, patrols those areas. - Area B: villages slightly out from Area A regions. The PA collects taxes there, but the IDF patrols them.
- Area C: all the rest. Those are areas of Jewish settlement and
Israeli administration and control. This is the all-in-one-piece area.
Bennett says that the government should take Area C and leave Areas A and B to a “Palestinian state.” (This map, from the UN humanitarian agency
for the West Bank and Gaza, shows Area C.) 96 percent of “Palestinians”
live in the A and B areas. Area C includes 59 percent of Judea and
Samaria. Bennett would offer full voting rights to the 4 percent of
“Palestinians” living in Area C. Bennett would also let Egypt annex the
Gaza Strip if it wants.
The Bennett plan came out ahead of the Levy Report. No one is talking about it, though the editors of Arutz-7
mentioned it in passing. Those most interested in Biblical, or at least
Old Testament, fidelity, might not want to surrender all those cities
permanently to Arab ownership and control.
So Israel has lots of choices. What should Israel do next?
Read More: http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/07/12...
Top Opinion
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Chi~Cat 2012/07/12 18:19:48Annex ALL of the West Bank and tell the Arabs to get out.






















What is clearly true is that there is a state between Israel and Jordon (and Egypt). That state has territory; that territory cannot be inhabited by illegal immigrants living under a different nation's laws. No nation (not even the US, yes America has illegal immigrants, no they do not live under Mexican law) would accept that, and no nation should. Either the Israeli illegal immigrants leave or they become Palestinian citizens and are ruled according to Palestinian law- since they are in Palestine.
But I speak from my understanding of history. Your understanding is totally, completely, absolutely lacking.
The only reason I am being so charitable with you is that the Terms of Service do not permit me to share the much harsher suspicion that I have of you. And I don't take the liberties with the Terms of Service that you obviously take.
{But I speak from my understanding of history. Your understanding is totally, completely, absolutely lacking.}
No attempt at argument? Mindless insults? Claims to intellectual superiority? Must be a conservative.
{The only reason I am being so charitable with you is that the Terms of Service do not permit me to share the much harsher suspicion that I have of you. And I don't take the liberties with the Terms of Service that you obviously take.}
You have absolutely no basis for these absurd lies. Take them back immediately.
I don't "shill" for anybody. For you even to suggest such a thing, I regard as violative of the spirit, and perhaps even the letter, of the Terms of Service.
I can confidently claim to be one of the most polite commenters on this site. The posts you are claiming are typically given in response to extreme, lengthy (and mindless) provocation.
{I don't "shill" for anybody.}
I do actually take this back- the word has a meaning I was not aware of. (According to wiki: "To promote or endorse in return for payment, especially dishonestly.") I'm not saying you're endorsing the IDF product in return for payment- just out of personal prejudice or whatever- but you certainly are doing so dishonestly. I apologise for the (unintended) implication that you were being paid for lying, instead of doing it for free.
As for 'violations of the Terms of Service', I'd be looking at virtually anyone else on this site.
Besides, only by his own words can I show him up.
What I'm saying is that Israel will not create a demographic shift where Jews become a minority. The entire point of the state is for Jews to be the majority population.
You are correct they would not allow themselves to be come a minority. I can understand that.
Nope. Anyone who was ethnically cleansed had their house and property stolen.
{but to the victors goes how history is written.}
Basically this is an admission that you won't tell the truth.
{Much of the land was also purchase from them.}
When?
{ I also remember that at one time they meet every condition that Arafat asked for and he walked away from the table}
You 'remember' wrong. This simply never happened.
No, I am not wrong and this did happen. It is you that are in error. I happen to be old enough to remember this one as it happened. Once in the lat 70's and again in 99. He had got everything that he had ask for both times and walked away. He did not want peace he wanted Israel gone,
These were not acceptable conditions, so Arafat rejected them. However, he did create a counter-offer (two separate states with borders on the 1967 Green Line) at Taba. Israel even looked like accepting- finally- what virtually the entire world says is the only acceptable basis for peace. But then electoral politics got in the way.
* A period that would end at Israel's discretion, not according to some set timeline.
Of course, Israel could annex all of Palestine, But it doesn't want to accept all the Palestinians as full citizens- otherwise it stops being a Jewish nation. So there are two options- an apartheid systems, where Muslims are not full citizens, or ethnic cleansing to force them out of land that is then populated by Jews and annexed. At the moment, the Israelis are trying a bit of both. Neither are acceptable.
Not only is this not correct, the Israeli state actually forced nearly a million people with the wrong religion to leave.
Thank You!
Events often happen to less than 100% of a targeted group. Just because some Jews survived the Holocaust does not mean it didn't occur; just because some Palestinians remained in Israel does not mean there was no ethnic cleansing.
{I know they had some fights in many of the villages where they had to purge certain people that were attacking them and creating problems.}
This is not correct. The IFD murdered or raped innocent people including unarmed civilians in order to create enough terror for a million people to flee.
Show me some evidence of this as I never read anything at the time about any of this. I do know that innocent people were killed and in many cases there were armed people that used them as shields. It is a tactic they use even today. Exploiting both women and children. Most of the people that lived their before were nomads and most did not even have homes from what I read in the past. The land was essentially a desert until the Jews came back.
If you care to read virtually anything by Benny Morris- who is actually a major supporter of the IDF's murderous policy- he's neatly catalogued the Israeli state's record of murder and rape. Wikipedia has a summary, but I emphasize that the primary sources are the best for this sort of thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
{I do know that innocent people were killed and in many cases there were armed people that used them as shields.}
Nope, these were premeditated, deliberate killings of unarmed civilians without provocation. The intention was to terrify everyone else into leaving.
{The land was essentially a desert until the Jews came back.}
A lie.
http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
Actually, a number of Arabs *would* want to stay. And don't forget: ancient Israel had its share of foreigners who willingly accepted membership in the Israelite community. (I recall a young woman who availed herself of the "gleaner laws" to help out her mother-in-law, and even prevailed on the older woman's next-of-kin to marry her to keep the land in the family! Her direct descendant was the greatest king that Israel ever had. Other foreigners even served in the royal army--thus proving that the modern Machal was not the first foreign auxiliary that the Jews ever had.)