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mustangluver 2012/04/01 04:14:37
I say it was self defense!
I say it was murder!
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media needs to stop showing old pics of both Trayvon Martin and George
Zimmerman. Trayvon at the time of his death was 6 feet tall and 140 lbs.
George was 5'9" and about 150 lbs..the pic they keep showing is from o5
when he was heavier. Tonight on the news they played an audio from a
witness that saw George 24 hrs after the incident and he said he had a
big lump on the bridge of his nose and 2 black eyes and a big bandage on
the back of his head. He said everyone knows bruising from a broken
nose doesn't show up right away..He said George was in a lot of pain and
anyone could see he had been attacked.. Martin was in no way a little angel boy as the
parents want ppl to see..Martin didn't like being followed..But if he felt threatened in any way and or felt he was being unjustly sought out, the normal thing for him to do would have been to call police..They keep saying George kept following although he was told not to..How does anyone know that? And what diff would that possibly make on the fact that Trayvon made the decision to attack George? A witness told police what happened and it was the same story George gave..Why the hell are protesters trying to go above the law? Why are they making this a race case? Why are they automatically assuming George killed Trayvon for absolutely no reason? It's ludicrous and illogical!!!

Why does the media persist in clinging to the notion that Trayvon was
the little 12 year-old child in the old pictures of him they keep
showing? In reality, he had a gold grill in his teeth and was tattooed
up. Trayvon was actually a thug with all the bells and whistles. So
why won’t the media talk about who Trayvon really was?

First, Martin’s school suspension record. According to an investigation by the Miami Herald, Martin was suspended twice -
once in October of last year for graffiti, and prior to the shooting
for possession of a bag with traces of marijuana and a “marijuana pipe.”
Martin was also found in possession of some jewelry and what
the Herald describes as a “burglary tool,” though these items were not
convincingly established as being owned by Martin himself, following an
independent investigation by police.



Both offenses, which would fall under the umbrellas of “vandalism”
and “possession or use of alcohol and/or controlled substances,” would
be sufficient to merit ten day suspensions under district policy.
Martin was apparently also suspended at an indeterminate time in the
past for tardiness and/or truancy, though the Herald does not specify
for how long.

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  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/04/01 04:27:28
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    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    +15
    all this tragic incident is...is an excuse to start a race riot, to generate FEAR and Intimidation to scare people into voting for Obama come November...FACTS are the LAST thing the race Baiting Machine wants...they are herding the sheeple ..preparing them for the riot

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  • morris44 2012/06/08 19:50:09 (edited)
    Undecided
    morris44
    Who cares what pic they show?
    It is more an act of convenience to keep showing the same pic, than any sinister plot.

    Nobody has an agenda as it has to be decided in court.

    Actually there does seem to be one group that has an agenda. The group that keeps trying to convict the dead person because of how he looks.
  • mustang... morris44 2012/06/09 03:11:05
    mustangluver
    LOL..Not because of how he looks..because of all he had on his FB and Twitter..he was proud of being a gangsta. He had lots of problems in school and was suspended for 10 days for trying to punch the school bus driver in the face..the fact is, he was destined for prison or death..
  • morris44 mustang... 2012/06/13 20:50:31
    morris44
    All of what you said can be true and it has nothing to do with this particular case.

    None of that would be admissable in court.
  • mustang... morris44 2012/06/22 03:40:10
    mustangluver
    Zim tells his story. Completely believable.
    http://youtu.be/lFWPQOknED0

    http://youtu.be/ayr9ulcUVts
  • Bastion 2012/06/07 23:54:59
    Undecided
    Bastion
    A story:

    Some angry black 20-somethings had gotten together to protect their neighborhood, patrolling at night with guns; a young white guy walking through the neigborhood gets stopped and questioned . . . he freaks out, takes a swing or two out of fear and gets shot to death.

    Whattya think? What's your reaction? Whattya wanna do about it?

    Really? You support the black guys righteously protecting their families from potentially dangerous outsiders?

    Is that what you think?
  • mustang... Bastion 2012/06/09 03:13:57
    mustangluver
    I say, why would he be walking in that neighborhood? And Zim became a neighborhood watchman because there had been some break-ins and drug activity...every single apt complex here has neighborhood watchmen..
  • Bastion mustang... 2012/06/09 10:48:03
    Bastion
    You didn't answer the question.

    In my story the young black men were neighborhood watchmen because there had been some break-ins and drug activity, too. And the young white guy was walking through the neighborhood because his divorced dad was there spending time with his girlfriend.

    Answer the question.
  • mustang... Bastion 2012/06/09 17:50:37
    mustangluver
    I most certainly did answer the question, just not to your liking. I would see absolutely no diff what so ever if the races were reversed and the story remains the same. Martin was sent to his father for being suspended from school for 10 days for trying to punch the school bus driver in the face. He was an unknown at Zims complex. Zim called 911. He did not approach Martin. You are desperately trying to make this racial and it is not.
  • Bastion mustang... 2012/06/09 21:44:08
    Bastion
    I'M trying to point out that it's NOT a racial issue - and that it's the drumbeat of bullsh*t like Martin's school troubles to somehow justify shooting him to death that smacks of some sort of strange bias.
    Please tell me what evidence there is that confirms that Zimmerman did not approach Martin. All I've seen suggests he did.
  • mustang... Bastion 2012/06/10 03:34:14
    mustangluver
    On his 911 call he said he would not approach...and ppl are judged by their criminal acts and records..After trying to punch the school bus driver in the face and being suspended, it is not hard to believe he punched Zim in the face..How is that hard to understand?
  • Bastion mustang... 2012/06/10 11:03:30
    Bastion
    Not hard to understand at all.

    Zimmerman confronted him with the gun. Martin says he didn't do anything, leave him alone. Zimmerman grabs Martin by the arm, points the gun and tells Martin he's holding him for the police ("they always get away" - "we don't need you to " follow). Martin freaks out and starts struggling and punching. Zimmerman gets hit once or twice, fires.

    How is that hard to understand?
  • mustang... Bastion 2012/06/10 16:50:44
  • Bastion mustang... 2012/06/10 19:25:05
    Bastion
    That's what he said. I was suggesting another possibility. It was what first came to mind when I heard the limited facts. It makes the most sense considering the actions and words we know.

    That's what a trial is for. Do you think the scene I laid out is impossible? It did sound as if Zim was disgusted that "they always get away", and he did continue to follow. You think it's impossible that he might have decided to use the gun he was carrying to hold Martin for the police that he knew were coming? And then after Martin was shot say that he changed his mind, stopped following Martin and was attacked without provication? And why would martin do that? It seems he may have been a hothead, but to attack a full grown man in a residential street for no reason?
  • mustang... Bastion 2012/06/11 05:20:47
    mustangluver
    Witnesses told cops what they saw. No, it is not impossible, just improbable..
  • morris44 mustang... 2012/06/13 20:50:45
    morris44
    +1
    His dad was living in that neighborhood, wasn't he?
  • mustang... morris44 2012/06/22 03:41:33
    mustangluver
    He was yes but Martin did not and obviously was not a known there.
    Zim tells his story. Completely believable.
    http://youtu.be/lFWPQOknED0

    http://youtu.be/ayr9ulcUVts
  • morris44 mustang... 2012/06/26 20:43:45
    morris44
    So, unless one is known to be allowed in an area, they cannot visit their dad?
  • mustang... morris44 2012/06/26 23:06:55
    mustangluver
    Um, like are you kidding me? The best of the best have been followed and watched. There's security pretty much everywhere. When you live in a complex, pretty much everyone know each other or of each other. There had been break-ins and drug activity in Zims place so Martin was suspicious.
  • jc 2012/06/07 22:17:43
    Undecided
    jc
    +2
    If Zimmerman remained in his vehicle and waited for the police,as advised the shooting would not have happened.Regardless of that,Trayvon did attack the man first and sealed his own fate.Although it could have been avoided with better judgement by Zimmerman,I still believe he'll walk away with a self defense verdict when it's all over.
  • mustang... jc 2012/06/07 22:57:18
    mustangluver
    +1
    The only advice Zim was given was to stop following..nothing else. Zim was getting in his vehicle when Martin approached him...
  • KilrQueen 2012/06/07 22:00:32
    I say it was self defense!
    KilrQueen
    +1
    They need to get off the "poor black kid shot by white man" kick and realize they screwed up and that's not what happened.
  • Tresa 2012/06/07 22:00:05
    Undecided
    Tresa
    +1
    You say quit showing the old pics of both but then you defend Zimmerman and trash talk Martin. Be fair and bring up some of Zimmerman's past history with the law, he was no angel either, bring up some of the negative that's been said about Zimmerman by people who know him and yes there's some negative out there.
    I didn't think that the police handled this correctly and still don't. Charges have been brought and I'm willing to accept the outcome regardless which way it goes. Personally I think both thought the other was a threat, both stood their ground and the one with a gun won. Now a jury will decide the "winners" fate.
  • mustang... Tresa 2012/06/07 23:01:20
  • morris44 mustang... 2012/06/08 19:52:44
    morris44
    What purpose would trying to skew the story serve?
    None at all.

    The court will decide guilt in this case, no matter what any media does.
  • CHUCK 2012/06/07 21:09:24
    I say it was self defense!
    CHUCK
    +1
    STAND YOUR GROUND WORKS..
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/04/25 13:32:25
    I say it was self defense!
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    The police report listed several witnesses. These witnesses obviously corroborated Zimmermans statement or he would have been charged then.

    The anti-2nd Amendment, racist and leftwing media (with the help of racists Sharpton and Jackson) committed fraud when they doctored photos and recordings to create their race war.
    When Zimmerman is found not guilty, the media is hoping for another LA type riot.
  • mustang... Torchma... 2012/04/25 17:37:19
    mustangluver
    2 witnesses said they saw Martin on top of Zim and Zim was yelling help...5 other witnesses saw other things that coincide with Zims story..that coupled with Zims wounds convince the cops and the PROSECUTOR that Zim was within his legal rights to use deadly force..
  • morris44 mustang... 2012/06/08 19:53:28
    morris44
    Why don't we just wait and see what the jurors/judge decide?
  • KCurtis 2012/04/23 10:30:19
    Undecided
    KCurtis
    +2
    I don't know yet because we don't have the facts.
  • mustang... KCurtis 2012/04/24 16:17:05
    mustangluver
    +2
    I just found out today that the prosecution never took the clothes from Zimmerman or anything else..not even the bullet that killed Martin..they did not arrest Zimmerman as she was satisfied with self defense as were the cops..as they saw Zims nose and head..so Corey has not one single bit of evidence as she allowed him to be released..WTF is she now doing charging him with murder 2 after 45 days?
    He will be acquitted..no doubt about it..Listen to Mark Stein..he is so livid..
    http://www.therightscoop.com/...
  • KCurtis mustang... 2012/04/24 22:53:42
    KCurtis
    +1
    Under Pressure.
  • ☆ QueenAline 2012/04/23 03:09:44
    Undecided
    ☆ QueenAline
    +1
    I don't want to judge the man until he's had a fair trial, but I am leaning towards self defense. If my head was being beaten to the ground, I would use the weapon that I legally own for my own self defense. Lots of facts still to come in, but the thing that bothers me most is the MSM showing pics of a 12 year old child instead of who Martin
    really was. We all know the media is biased big time...so this casts a BIG shadow on the whole incident.
  • mustang... ☆ Queen... 2012/04/23 03:42:30
    mustangluver
    +1
    The prosecutor was satisfied it was self defense and then did a 180..and yes, they need to show pics of Martin at his real height of 6'3"..
  • Donna 2012/04/23 02:17:08 (edited)
    Undecided
    Donna
    +2
    I'll let the courts fight it out. In my opinion from listening to the 911 calls, 1). Zimmerman only tooks a few steps before the cops told him not to follow Martin. He didnt appear to be 'stalking' martin in any way. 2.) It's apparent that Zimmerman has injuries that I doubt he inflicted upon himself. 3.) If Martin was such a 'scared' little boy, why didnt HE call 911 instead of approaching & threatening Zimmerman?. 4.) Why wont they show Martin in true to life form, instead of showing a picture of a little boy & why did they have to 'whiten' Zimmermans face when he is clearly Hispanic ?



    I saw Martins FB page & Twitter, which has since been scrubbed of all the 'good' stuff. He's NO innocent babe. He was caught w stolen diamond & gold ladies jewelry, a burglary tool & had recently beaten up a bus driver... thats besides his suspensions. So I doubt he spends all of his days asking mom for cash to buy Skittles. Dont bother rebutting unless you have a link w proof.
  • mustang... Donna 2012/04/23 03:45:21
    mustangluver
    +3
    Yes, he had a mouth full of gold and a lot of tats so he was doing real well with his drug and jewelry business..
  • Donna mustang... 2012/04/23 12:05:07
    Donna
    +2
    And I doubt the local police & hospitals & media are going to risk their jobs making his head 'look' like it has gashes & blood unless they really happened. I think they have better ways to spend their time than to glue fake wounds & blood to some guys head.
  • mustang... Donna 2012/04/24 16:17:43
    mustangluver
    +2
    I just found out today that the prosecution never took the clothes from Zimmerman or anything else..not even the bullet that killed Martin..they did not arrest Zimmerman as she was satisfied with self defense as were the cops..as they saw Zims nose and head..so Corey has not one single bit of evidence as she allowed him to be released..WTF is she now doing charging him with murder 2 after 45 days?
    He will be acquitted..no doubt about it..Listen to Mark Stein..he is so livid..
    http://www.therightscoop.com/...
  • Donna mustang... 2012/04/24 16:43:37
    Donna
    +2
    Because she was bought & sold by the media lead militia that self appointed themselves as judge & jury. I wonder who's idea Murder 2 was? I'm sure it wasnt hers.
  • mustang... Donna 2012/04/25 03:01:35
    mustangluver
    +2
    I know ppl that are taking bets that to shut the Martins and their lynch mob up, she threw the book at Zim, knowing it will be kicked to the curb..and the matter will be over..she will have done her job..but of course it is going to spark some riots..
  • Donna mustang... 2012/04/25 03:38:41
    Donna
    +2
    It makes me laugh that Zimmermans apology wasnt good enough for the Martins ( even though he hasnt been convicted of a crime yet ) but it's quite alright for blacks to ambush whites all over the country ,even though white's had nothing to do with it. I also do not see any Hispanics speaking out about this.

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