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Let us suppose that one could actually build a Time Machine. The question is how would it work?

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  • xphile 2009/09/25 05:06:20
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    General relativity, the theory of gravity developed a century ago by Albert Einstein, shows one potent way to bend and warp spacetime: gravity curves spacetime and slows clocks. In 1949, Einstein's colleague, Kurt Gödel, found it was even possible to do this to allow time travel into the past, which had disturbing implications.

    The time travel theory proposed by Prof Ori and his student Dana Levanony in Physical Review shows that the loop would form within an empty, doughnut-shaped region of spacetime enveloped by a sphere of normal matter.

    The distortion of spacetime would result from other huge nearby masses, such as a black hole. Once inside the doughnut, a would-be Dr Who would go further into the past with each orbit.

    "The machine is spacetime itself," Prof Ori explains. "If we were to create an area with a warp like this in space that would enable timelines to close on themselves, it might enable future generations to return to visit our time.

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  • jon 2009/09/29 09:19:19
    jon
    Actually time is no longer the mystery that is was thanks to the work of Einstein, Lorenz and others. Scientists have been able to reverse time in the laboratory. The particle, however did not retrace its same path forward. But time travel is quite unlikely.
    JB
  • drakan 2009/09/28 23:28:22
    drakan
    :/ Personally, I think of Donnie Darko and the Butterfly Effect when I hear about time machines/time travel. XD; Or the Tardis. ._.; But mostly Donnie Darko and Butterfly Effect.

    Perhaps I'm too cryptic, though. :shrug: Hurr... I think that it'd have to warp time and space; but there'd be consequences to that. :| Really, I think there'd be too many consequences that would wind up harming us on the whole, rather than get any good out of it. There are things I'd like to see, do, etc back in the day, but I reckon it'd be best to leave the past as it is. ^^;
  • Rubyzandra 2009/09/27 01:44:29
    Rubyzandra
    It wouldn't. Time doesn't stop long enough to capture a single moment. And if you try and go backward, it would have already passed by the time you got there.
  • jon Rubyzandra 2009/09/29 09:20:43
    jon
    I think a case could be made for time reversal based on a laboratory experiment that I read about that did precisely that.
    JB
  • Rubyzandra jon 2009/10/07 18:18:54
    Rubyzandra
    Oh really? Then take me back to 01/01/2000 before I retired from my 6 figure job, relocated to Las Vegas, became diabetic, lost my houses, and couldn't afford to buy Health Care after my Husband's stroke. On 2nd thought, never mind. PBO wasn't the 44th President of the United States then! Never mind. Better take me forward to 12/2/2009 when the President will sign the Health Insurance Reform Act with a public option; and I will have lots of money from the success of my book and movies to insure my family if God hasn't taken us home between now and then. option lots money success book movies insure family god home
  • jon Rubyzandra 2009/10/08 03:53:55
    jon
    Time reversal in a laboratory has already been achieved. However, time travel is something quite different than time reversal. But I do understand your sarcasm.
    JB
  • Sandy 2009/09/25 18:44:37
    Sandy
    It would work the way real life works... we are living in a virtural reality... we just get virtural reality programs to bring us back to our past... : )
  • Alexander Sandy 2009/09/25 18:48:54
    Alexander
    Reality is a matter of perception
  • Sandy Alexander 2009/09/25 19:18:59
    Sandy
    Perception is created by us... "We don't see things as they are;

    we see them as we are."
  • Alexander Sandy 2009/09/25 22:08:03
    Alexander
    You are right we create our own personal perception of reality colored by a vast amount of psychological attachments such as emotions and opinions through the practice of mindfulness we can work to break through to the vast emptiness which is the true mind. Just to bring in a little Buddhism. There is a saying that people will always believe what they want to believe. This is caused by viewing reality through these attachments which drive how we react to everything.
  • Sandy Alexander 2009/09/25 23:47:43
    Sandy
    Of course there is also the tv-- and other medium of brain washing through subliminal
  • Alexander Sandy 2009/09/26 12:41:35
    Alexander
    Do you remember in the early 1960s they used to put subliminal messages in the movies, so you would run to the concession stand at the movie theater?
  • Sandy Alexander 2009/09/26 17:57:18
    Sandy
    I do. I also know about a guy in California named Parker...who developed and marketted subliminal tapes for losing weight, or discontinuing other life deforming habits like sucking thumbs, smoking, swearing, etc... One I bought from the guy saved my life... it helped me get over my extreme insomnia... the reason I mention this is because this guy's programs were so successful... so powerful... they really worked and worked fast..

    The government came and took over his program... shutting him down with a threat of prison if he continued in any way to market this program... (like they did with people who developed automobiles that ran on anything but petrol)

    I called him to get a program a few years after I had used his stuff to get more... he told me the story... him and his wife were scared spitless.. they even thought I was government... checking up on them to see if they would sell...

    It was about this same time we began noticing a mentality among the military personel that bespoke ... brainwashing/subliminal training....

    The government uses all kinds of media to brainwash us... really crummy ..eh?
  • Alexander Sandy 2009/09/26 18:01:41
    Alexander
    +1
    The government holds no surprises for me and yet we as citizens are allowing the government to grow larger.
  • Sandy Alexander 2009/09/26 18:07:13 (edited)
    Sandy
    It is because they have successfully divided us... in every way... If ever we the people would actually come together as a whole... they couldn't do anything...
  • Alexander Sandy 2009/09/26 20:25:48
    Alexander
    It is interesting that Lincoln put those who opposed the war in Federal prisons there are no records of the amount of people he imprisoned. Woodrow Wilson put 150,000 people in Federal prisons who opposed World War I. I wonder why Obama needs a civilian army funded the same as the military?
  • Sandy Alexander 2009/09/26 22:40:11
    Sandy
    Wow.. I didn't know wilson was a butt.. I know we inprisoned a mass of Japanese during WW2... and that was insane... we didn't round up all the german citizens...

    I am worried about the civilian army... I believe it will be our police force... now they must be trained like military... and I believe they are subliminally brainwashed as well... at least our local officers have changed... they are anal and insane... almost inhuman...
  • ivy 2009/09/25 11:20:04
    ivy
    i think it will be a great success in this time.....and i hav no idea how it wil work............
  • sparta 2009/09/25 05:16:56
    sparta
    You create an inter-dimensional bubble around the craft and then locate the plain of your dimension and travel back or forward in time...unlike the movies, you cannot get out of your craft without consequences.
  • xphile 2009/09/25 05:06:20
    xphile
    +2
    General relativity, the theory of gravity developed a century ago by Albert Einstein, shows one potent way to bend and warp spacetime: gravity curves spacetime and slows clocks. In 1949, Einstein's colleague, Kurt Gödel, found it was even possible to do this to allow time travel into the past, which had disturbing implications.

    The time travel theory proposed by Prof Ori and his student Dana Levanony in Physical Review shows that the loop would form within an empty, doughnut-shaped region of spacetime enveloped by a sphere of normal matter.

    The distortion of spacetime would result from other huge nearby masses, such as a black hole. Once inside the doughnut, a would-be Dr Who would go further into the past with each orbit.

    "The machine is spacetime itself," Prof Ori explains. "If we were to create an area with a warp like this in space that would enable timelines to close on themselves, it might enable future generations to return to visit our time.
  • elptrek P.H.A.E.T.'s wizard 2009/09/25 04:57:23
    elptrek P.H.A.E.T.'s wizard
    There is a way to go into the future, you need a ship to take you into the gravitational pull of a black hole without going in and the ship has to take out of the field and you'll be in the future. It's a one way trip.
  • TheGroundsquirrel 2009/09/25 02:19:07
    TheGroundsquirrel
    I have often thought of this subject. Maybe the problem is that we continually think of or call it a "machine". Part of the issue with "time" travel is that time cannot be directly measured. You can't touch it, you can't see it, you can't smell it and you can't taste it. Everything about "time" is only observable through effect. We do not as yet have the cause. What causes time? Time does not, so far as I can tell, even exist. It is a base and simple measurement we use to keep us sane and organized. To explain our status in the linear existence we know as life. We have used time as a verb, a noun, an adjective of fate. We have used time as a shield, a weapon and a cure. How easily we grasp the ethereal whilst avoiding the physicality of time. There is time enough for us all, don't fall victim to IBS (Impatient Bastard Syndrome).
  • Donnie 2009/09/25 01:30:36
    Donnie
    Well you set the dial for May 6th 8:30MT, press the red button and wham you are at the same location at that very time.
  • Angel-Nick! 2009/09/24 23:58:23
    Angel-Nick!
    ha ha maybe some electricity and idk alot of Energy!
  • Piwan 2009/09/24 23:10:35
    Piwan
    I honestly don't think a time machine is a possibility. The present is what is happening NOW...past and future are just what they are, and NOT part of the present.
  • Alexander Piwan 2009/09/24 23:44:36
    Alexander
    +1
    The question was hypothetical just to invoke a discussion appreciate your answer and you are right since this isn't the time period of H.G. Wells a Time Machine is an impossibility or surely improbable
  • Piwan Alexander 2009/09/24 23:46:34
    Piwan
    Yeah, i know it was just converstaion, I'm sorry if it seemed I was being too serious. Certain space anomalies may have the effect of time travel, but i don't think humans will ever be able to create it, nor SHOULD they be able to!!!!
  • Alexander Piwan 2009/09/25 00:32:52
    Alexander
    +1
    You have nothing to be sorry about this was an excercise in using that gray matter the comments have been interesting
  • Piwan Alexander 2009/09/25 15:10:27
    Piwan
    No problem! I enjoy using my "gray matter", its one of the few assets i have!LOL!
  • KansasRazor 2009/09/24 22:35:52
    KansasRazor
    I have a problem accepting that we can. Conservation of matter and energy in the universe would be problematic here. If we are to jump to another point in the time continuum, while maintaining the integrity of our time period's conservation, an equal amount of "something" would need to replace the "hole" we leave.

    Otherwise, the universe should collapse, right?
  • Alexander KansasR... 2009/09/24 23:47:23
    Alexander
    +1
    The question of a Time Machine was too generate discussion. It is really an impossibility unless you are Doctor Who on the BBC
  • KansasR... Alexander 2009/09/25 00:04:17
    KansasRazor
    :) I would certainly love to have one though. So many people to meet, places to see...
  • oldcavpilot 2009/09/24 21:59:41
    oldcavpilot
    You'd need a wormhole that wouldn't break you down into sub-atomic particles. If the Universe is truly infinite, then there are an infinite number of possibilities that both our past and our present exist in what we would call 'now'.

    Infinity must be real for there to be a workable Time Machine, and you need a way to keep from being disassembled while going there.

    Controlling 'where' is a different issue. How do you control a wormhole?
  • Alexander oldcavp... 2009/09/25 00:04:17
    Alexander
    +1
    Einstein was correct the universe is finite made of what he called dark matter held together by dark energy the Hubble Telescope has helped prove that. The newest theory which appears to be correct is the universe is shaped like a dodecahedron
  • oldcavp... Alexander 2009/09/25 12:06:44
    oldcavpilot
    I've read that and have a hard time wrapping my mind around it. What's beyond our universe, and what's beyond that? Tough concept to grasp; at least for me.
  • Rick4Ron - Paul☮2012 2009/09/24 21:35:11
    Rick4Ron - Paul☮2012
    If I knew that... I wouldn't be here? :)
  • lady_c5_loadmaster 2009/09/24 21:14:33
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    Just like Dr. Who's Type 40 TARDIS
  • Alexander lady_c5... 2009/09/25 00:06:33
    Alexander
    +1
    Right but be careful about the Daleks and Cybermen nice to meet you fellow Time Lord.
  • lady_c5... Alexander 2009/09/25 06:56:01
    lady_c5_loadmaster
    My husband and I have been watching Dr. Who since the 80's when it was on PBS late Saturday nights. My favorites were Tom Baker and Peter Davidson. We got to meet Peter Davidson in Sacramento at a Dr. Who convention.
  • runningintriangles 2009/09/24 20:36:14
    runningintriangles
    +2
    No clue how it will work, but will it be bigger on the inside?

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