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The First Amendment of America's Constitution protects religious institutions from government violating their religious doctrine. America also has anti-discrimination laws. What happens when the two values (religious tolerance and non-discrimination) collide? An open society like America creates lots of unexpected situations and creates a lot of room for disagreement -- both within reasonable logic and understanding of the laws.

CNSNews.com reports:A New York hospital worker and her spouse have filed a lawsuit saying spousal health benefits were denied to the same-sex couple.

The lawsuit filed Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan sought past and future health care benefits and a declaration that the Westchester County couple is entitled to the benefits.

Read More: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/lesbians-sue-catho...

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  • Roe 2012/06/21 21:39:42
    Catholic Hospital
    Roe
    +18
    The Catholic Hospital has every right to deny spousal benefits to lesbian partners. No one is forcing her to work there. These people purposelly pick these situations to undermine the Church and try to get publicity for their sick causes.

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  • Jack's ... Defend ... 2012/06/23 13:28:05
    Jack's Pearl
    This has nothing to do with Obama!
  • Defend ... Jack's ... 2012/06/23 15:41:42
    Defend Western Civlization
    Yes it does both obama and people who choose to be homosexuals are on a Jihad against the catholic church
  • gocar 2012/06/22 03:28:54
    Lesbian Couple
    gocar
    +2
    Sue the bloody pants off them. They would not get away with that in another country, even one that was majority Catholic, like Austria or Italy.
  • Cal gocar 2012/06/22 04:28:36
    Cal
    +2
    It would get thrown out in the circuit courts.....frivolous is frivolous....our legal law has not changed between last week and this week..........
  • bob h. gocar 2012/06/22 16:15:04
    bob h.
    European Catholicism is different than American Catholicism.
  • Paige 2012/06/22 03:28:28
    Undecided
    Paige
    Unfortunately I believe Religious Hospitals have a right to practice what they believe. I believe a Lesbian couple has the right to have Health care like any married couple. I'm pretty torn on this. If they hired a Lesbian knowingly then I almost want to say that they are then obligated to give her and her family insurance benefits. This is hard for me. I was raised Catholic but as an adult have chose not to belong to any organized religion.
  • Boetica Paige 2012/06/22 05:20:01
    Boetica
    +3
    They are not allowed to ask those questions, so how can they knowingly hire a lesbian?
  • FRED 2012/06/22 03:14:26
    Lesbian Couple
    FRED
    +2
    The catholic hospitals has no rigth to deny spousal benefits to a lesbian couple. Hospitals in a secular Country shouldn't apply their religious beliefs. It's against the state's law, we are not at the Vatican. Equal benefits to gay couple
  • evangel... FRED 2012/06/22 03:28:26 (edited)
    evangelism_vision
    +4
    YES THEY DO AND IF GAYS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.... Go to a Gay Hospital!

    Gays have no right to force us to violate our Religious beliefs.

    ROMANS 1:24-26

    24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

    25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

    sounds pretty clear to me..... God said it in his word if there is a problem with what is posted take it up with him
  • FRED evangel... 2012/06/22 04:06:40
    FRED
    Lots of people use the bible to project hate, violence, and war.
    The book itself is full of repulsive, violent so-called god's law, and usually
    involves throwing stones at your neighbors until they are murdered.
    These days they are too lazy to throw stones, and the preachers just want them frothing enough to reach in their wallets for that donation that means the preacher does not have to work or pay taxes. In short the old testiment is much based on the culture of the time, the new testiment mostly recognises this and tries to universalise what is good to be universal in all cultures, as to be honest I think whatever the culture is and whatever the time is, the commandment love your neighbor as yourself can transend all of them because behaving that way can be regarded by pretty much everyone as good.
    The Bible should not - in fact most of it - cannot be taken literally, and all genuine Christians should unreservedly accept homosexuals.
  • KentPerry FRED 2012/06/22 04:35:19 (edited)
  • Boetica FRED 2012/06/22 05:27:36
    Boetica
    +2
    Barf. 2 Timothy 3:1-5 .....'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.'
  • FRED Boetica 2012/06/22 06:00:34 (edited)
    FRED
    Christianity is a church of sinners. We all break the rules and most of the time people can't help it. As to whether or not I have a right to assess whether or not a person has broken such a rule by being a homosexual, I say that I do not (although most Christians feels they have a right to judge anyone for just about any action ) and defer to Jesus when he said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    To : EvangeIism_vision@sbcgl...You are ignoring the parts of the Bible which say that you do not have the right to judge people (as it's God's right only) and that you should love everyone else.
    People pick and choose what they want to follow sometimes. That's why you have some "devout Christians" who have divorced because they cheated on their spouse (adultery), are downloading music illegally on their broadband connections (theft), are totally wishing they had their neighbors Mustang (coveting), and bashing everyone else for being "oh so wrong!"
    Somehow I find the irony interestin
  • evangel... FRED 2012/06/22 14:41:05 (edited)
    evangelism_vision
    +1
    HOW WOULD YOU KNOW YOUR THE ATHEIST

    THE FOOL YES THE FOOL HAS SAID THERE IS NO GOD
  • Defend ... FRED 2012/06/23 01:40:33
    Defend Western Civlization
    to speak the truth is not to judge
    oh its the liberal progressive democrats who are coveting what other Americans have
  • FRED Defend ... 2012/06/23 04:01:03
    FRED
    Your true, not mine, and yes you are judging, I am sure like a good right winger Republican you believe that if the government subsidizing and financial assistance to the poor, disabled, and elderly is abhorrent to you, but having the government subsidize multi-million and billion dollar corporations is just fine with you! Or/ and perhaps you think that rich people are an oppressed minority. You guys use Jesus and guns in the same sentence.
  • evangel... FRED 2012/06/22 14:31:53 (edited)
    evangelism_vision
    +2
    YOU CALL IT HATE BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT PERVERSION GOD CALLS IT SIN AND YOU CALL IT HATE

    What utter Stupidity! Call it hate all you want Women who merry other women do so because they enjoy Perversion and unnatural Sex and expect the world to Openly support it and then they get mad at the bible because it condemns it.

    YOUR POST WOULD BE SO LAUGHABLE IF IT WAS NOT SO SAD AND TWISTED FROM A PERVERSE MIND

    GAY SEX IS NOTHING LESS THEN ANIMAL SEX OR SIMPLY PUT LAP DOG SEX

    HATEFUL? No You lash out because the Conscience condemns you and you CAN'T HIDE FROM THE CONSCIENCE NO MATTER HOW FAR YOU RUN
    God see's you and see's you're perversions and knows the thoughts and ALL will stand before God some day!

    CATHOLICS DON'T HAVE TO NOR DO CHRISTIANS HAVE TO ACCEPT YOUR PERVERTED LIFE STYLE AND WE WON'T PERIOD

    ****************** SIMPLE AS THAT *****************
  • evangel... FRED 2012/06/22 14:38:27
    evangelism_vision
    +1
    YOU CALL IT HATE BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT PERVERSION GOD CALLS IT SIN AND YOU CALL IT HATE

    What utter Stupidity! Call it hate all you want Women who merry other women do so because they enjoy Perversion and unnatural Sex and expect the world to Openly support it and then they get mad at the bible because it condemns it.

    YOUR POST WOULD BE SO LAUGHABLE IF IT WAS NOT SO SAD AND TWISTED FROM A PERVERSE MIND

    GAY SEX IS NOTHING LESS THEN ANIMAL SEX OR SIMPLY PUT LAP DOG SEX

    HATEFUL? No You lash out because the Conscience condemns you and you CAN'T HIDE FROM THE CONSCIENCE NO MATTER HOW FAR YOU RUN
    God see's you and see's you're perversions and knows the thoughts and ALL will stand before God some day!

    CATHOLICS DON'T HAVE TO NOR DO CHRISTIANS HAVE TO ACCEPT YOUR PERVERTED LIFE STYLE AND WE WON'T PERIOD

    ****************** SIMPLE AS THAT *****************
  • evangel... evangel... 2012/06/22 14:38:54 (edited)
    evangelism_vision
    ****************** HEY " FRED" ************

    YOU CALL IT HATE BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT PERVERSION GOD CALLS IT SIN AND YOU CALL IT HATE

    What utter Stupidity! Call it hate all you want Women who merry other women do so because they enjoy Perversion and unnatural Sex and expect the world to Openly support it and then they get mad at the bible because it condemns it.

    YOUR POST WOULD BE SO LAUGHABLE IF IT WAS NOT SO SAD AND TWISTED FROM A PERVERSE MIND

    GAY SEX IS NOTHING LESS THEN ANIMAL SEX OR SIMPLY PUT LAP DOG SEX

    HATEFUL? No You lash out because the Conscience condemns you and you CAN'T HIDE FROM THE CONSCIENCE NO MATTER HOW FAR YOU RUN
    God see's you and see's you're perversions and knows the thoughts and ALL will stand before God some day!

    CATHOLICS DON'T HAVE TO NOR DO CHRISTIANS HAVE TO ACCEPT YOUR PERVERTED LIFE STYLE AND WE WON'T PERIOD

    ****************** SIMPLE AS THAT *****************
  • KentPerry FRED 2012/06/22 04:27:03
  • Cal FRED 2012/06/22 04:27:49
    Cal
    +1
    Actually Fred...they have every right...per our constitution. You know that document this nation is founded on...yeah.....
  • Boetica Cal 2012/06/22 05:30:17
    Boetica
    Every American of legal age who is not married has the legal right to marry some ONE with the same qualifications of the opposite sex. That is equal protection under the law.
  • Cal Boetica 2012/06/22 07:11:41 (edited)
    Cal
    Who's law? Not ours....

    So you would allow cousins to marry too? That's what I'm getting from this....
  • Boetica FRED 2012/06/22 05:21:33
    Boetica
    "Gay marriage" is an oxymoron. Marriage by definition is between people of the opposite sex, and in western tradition, ONE MAN & ONE WOMAN.
  • FRED Boetica 2012/06/22 05:45:40
    FRED
    A gay marriage doesn't destroy traditional marriage any more than a homosexual, by his or her very existence, destroys heterosexuality. Divorce does. As to the legalities and theological and social ramifications, I have no authority to pass judgment (although most everyone feels they have a right to judge anyone for just about any action). All I know is that we need to love one another, to forgive one another, and accept one another
  • Defend ... FRED 2012/06/22 11:58:26
    Defend Western Civlization
    Marriage is between a MAN AND WIFE to 2 perverts
  • Gloria 2012/06/22 03:14:10
    Lesbian Couple
    Gloria
    +1
    Sorry Catholic Church Jesus said to heal the sick.
  • evangel... Gloria 2012/06/22 03:33:04 (edited)
    evangelism_vision
    +1
    YES AND JESUS CAME TO HEAL THE " SICK" OF THEIR SPIRITUAL SICKNESS READ THE BIBLE AND USE THE GREEK to know the true meanings of the intentions of the word in the verse.

    JESUS CONSIDERED THOSE WHO WERE SICK TO BE THOSE WHO WERE SPIRITUALLY BLINDED AND HAD NO LIGHT IN THEM.

    And Yes He healed people who had Medical Problems and He can Heal Perverts who desire the " UNNATURAL SEXUAL UNION if they are willing to Repent

    Those unwilling to Repent of their sins and Perversions even their prayers will go unanswered God says except the prayer of Repentance

    Since you are throwing out the Bible and what Jesus Said let's get the right meaning of what He said for clarity
  • Gloria evangel... 2012/06/22 11:51:54
    Gloria
    Feel good about yourself after your little tirade? I really love the caps. You must have a hard time being understood & taken seriously. Buzz off.
  • cynsity Gloria 2012/06/22 04:09:26
    cynsity
    +1
    The hospital is not refusing to heal the sick they are refusing BENEFITS which are not rights but gifts given by employers to employeses for work done. No employer is required to give benefits they do so to attract more qualified workers.

    Sorry Cloria you arguement doesn't work
  • Gloria cynsity 2012/06/22 11:50:07
    Gloria
    Refusing benefits is forcing someone to be sick at some point. My name is Gloria with a G.
  • cynsity Gloria 2012/06/23 00:40:38
    cynsity
    HOW? Benefits do not determine a persons health they do not determine anything what so ever except how much the employer values the employee.

    And everyone who works for a small company who doesn'thave teh resources to give benefits, ask anyone who works for a non profit there are no benfeits there either in most cases...

    I have worked everyday of my life and never had a Benefits package... that wasn't a factor in my health. And when I was sick I sougt treatment same as I do now

    Again your agruement doesn't hold
  • Cal Gloria 2012/06/22 04:26:15
    Cal
    +2
    He also said not to commit sin. Oops....funny how we leave that out when it doesn't fit your argument...
  • Gloria Cal 2012/06/22 11:52:29
    Gloria
    No one is sinning anymore than you are.
  • KentPerry Gloria 2012/06/22 04:41:00
  • Boetica Gloria 2012/06/22 05:30:51
    Boetica
    He didn't say to support the sick in destructive behaviors.
  • Gloria Boetica 2012/06/22 11:53:59
    Gloria
    There is no destructive behavior only a relationship.
  • Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~ 2012/06/22 03:00:25
    Catholic Hospital
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +4
    They have a right to deny spousal health benefits, to two people of the same sex. This goes against their beliefs! I say YAY!!!!!
  • evangelism_vision 2012/06/22 02:49:07
    Catholic Hospital
    evangelism_vision
    +4
    " IF YOUR GAY... STAY AWAY.... IF YOUR A LESBO.....GET A HUSBO!
  • Gracie ... evangel... 2012/06/22 03:00:59
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +1
    LOL.......... That is good.

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