Lesbian Bride Rejected By Bridal Salon; just another gay hate crime?

by Manuel Posted 2011/08/19 18:58:58

Related Topics: Gay Marriage, Jewish, Crime, New York, Philadelphia, Wedding, Sex, Twitter, Dresses, Media, New Jersey, Hate Crime, Ratings

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Outrage is spreading across the web after a New Jersey bridal salon refused to sell a wedding dress
to a lesbian. Bride-to-be Alix Genter had crossed out "groom" and wrote
in "partner" on the store's paperwork. She then received a voicemail
from the manager of the "Here Comes The Bride" store that said, "what
you are describing on this paperwork is illegal and we do not
participate in any illegal acts." Click here
to listen to the voicemail posted by Philly.com. Even though the
wedding is set to take place in New York, where same sex marriage is now
legal, gay marriage is not legal in New Jersey. When recounting her
exchange with the manager, Genter told The Philadelphia Daily News,
"she also said that I came from a nice Jewish family, and that it was a
shame I was gay. She said, 'There's right, and there's wrong. And this
is wrong.'" Twitter is on fire with support for Genter. The outrage has
spread to the business review site Yelp.com, where hundreds have added
new negative reviews of "Here Comes The Bride," plummeting the store's ratings to one star out of five. Do you think this is just anther gay hate crime?

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2011/08/19 19:42:16

Yes.

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WoymnRule. 2011/08/28 17:13:18

No.

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That is the last straw! What is so wrong with gay people?! I like gay people they are just like you and i!

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Doc 2011/08/23 01:22:29

No.

It's no more a crime than a gay bar refusing to serve someone in a KKK outfit.

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Manuel to Doc 2011/08/24 15:00:19

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lol......

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ADRIA 2011/08/22 17:26:14

Yes.

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Does it matter if she is gay or not? Really? She wanted her hair done!!! This crap pisses me off. Screw them! Get your hair done by someone who is a true human veing with love in their hearts!!!

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IlliniRob 2011/08/22 05:16:38

No.

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Not a hate crime at all. Although I think the behavior of the shop owner to be despicable, I think it should be the right of the store to deny service to whomever they wish. Her store. Her financial investment.

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Manuel to IlliniRob 2011/08/24 15:01:21

could be the lighter side of a hate crime....

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IlliniRob to Manuel 2011/08/24 15:15:19
Manuel to IlliniRob 2011/08/31 15:41:02

I understand your point ...it can lead to a big rumble....it's better to have a law....but that's my opinion...and a new law could lead to problems as well....

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skittlesgirl 2011/08/21 01:32:50

Yes.

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Adding insult to injury is having brought her family into it and trying to guilt trip her.

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Bureauc 0webama 2011/08/20 22:16:22

No.

+2

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ADRIA to Bureauc... 2011/08/22 17:27:35

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If she was insane and came in all gross and dirty swinging a gun maybe...but this is just plain stupid.

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Bureauc... to ADRIA 2011/08/23 00:06:08

In NJ where this occurred, gay marriage is not legal, so the shop owner was correct saying '"what you are describing on this paperwork is illegal and we do not
participate in any illegal acts."
Regardless whether it made good business sense, it was not a 'hate crime'.
Regarding your post above, it was over the purchase of a dress, not a hair-do.

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ADRIA to Bureauc... 2011/08/23 14:29:43

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I mis read because I was tired. I am against people who are against freedom of choice. It is a hate crime.

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Bureauc... to ADRIA 2011/08/23 23:23:00

So you hate muslims?

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ADRIA to Bureauc... 2011/08/24 14:44:05

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??????? Wouldn't that be the same as hating gays? Did I ever say I was predjudice? I don't think I did....do you hate americans?

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Bureauc... to ADRIA 2011/08/24 23:11:36

''hating'' (your word) gays is not a crime anymore than liberals that hate Tea Party-ers are criminals.
Being against the G &L lifestyle does not make one a ''hater''. Christians for example do not hate the sinner, just the sin. Which brings me to my Question about muslims. You said you don't like ''haters'' and Muslims clearly hate gays because they would stone gays to death. Christians just refuse to play a part in the G & L Lifestyle. Doesn't make them haters.

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Manuel to Bureauc... 2011/08/24 15:02:27

and reserve the the right to hate anyone.....

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Bureauc... to Manuel 2011/08/24 23:12:28

http://www.sodahead.com/unite...

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Manuel to Bureauc... 2011/08/31 15:44:21

Christians for example do not hate the sinner, just the sin.
....read 1john 3:6-10....that's a Christian....if they are not that...they are haters in side....

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Bureauc... to Manuel 2011/08/31 23:56:12

Not being a party to the sin is not in contrast with the Christian Faith.

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Rollo Goodlove 2011/08/20 17:40:23

No.

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With the economic conditions in this country today, there is no way I would let my bigotry stand in the way of a profit ! I don't care if you're black, white, gay, lesbian, Jew, satanist, if you've got the money for my product,,,you're a CUSTOMER !!

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Manuel to Rollo G... 2011/08/20 18:13:02

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spoken like a true honest capitalist....

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Rollo G... to Manuel 2011/08/20 19:24:36

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Oh yeah. I dont know how people get thru a day being the "lifestyle" police. Quick way to drive yourself mad. 8 billion people on this planet, and the chances of all of them complying with your beliefs? ....very, very slim.

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Manuel to Rollo G... 2011/08/24 15:06:13

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did you understand that I agreed with you when I said spoken like a true honest capitalist....?
It's the capitalist pigs I don't like....you answer was honest....and I have nothing against gays....

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Rollo G... to Manuel 2011/08/24 21:28:12

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yeah I did, I was just expounding !! It's all good Manuel !!

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Razzy Ratchets 2011/08/20 17:28:09

No.

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Obnoxious, rude, in poor taste and tacky, but I do not deem it a hate crime by any means. It is their loss as far as I am concerned.

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Manuel to Razzy R... 2011/08/20 17:30:02

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I think it's the lighter side of a hate crime...

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Razzy R... to Manuel 2011/08/20 17:33:05

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Very light. As disgusting as I think it is this business owner is within her rights to turn this client away. It could be going against her religious beliefs or personal moral code. Whatever her reasoning, I think it was shortsighted and ignorant. Business is business. She needs to grow up.

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Manuel to Razzy R... 2011/08/20 18:15:32

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I think this will in time turn a new trend for the religious right to take if they own a business...To not serve gays when they could get away with it... It's the lighter side of the hate crime...To use their power when they can to not serve gay people....It could very well turn into...don't fix his car he's gay....don't work on her house shes gay...etc.

I could see the right taking steps like this as the future rolls on...it will be the new way to get away with a "hate crime"...deny services to gays when ever possible...so laws will have to catch up with that....

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Razzy R... to Manuel 2011/08/20 20:55:52 (edited)

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They inevitably will have to catch up with it. I totally see what you are saying, Manuel.

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seathanaich 2011/08/20 16:52:40

Yes.

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How is it anything else? Any business or individual that doesn't want to make a sale because they hate gays is a bigot. This person is just doing what their religion has taught them to do: hate others who are different.

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La 2011/08/20 14:52:56

No.

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Geez, it's not hate crime if there's no crime. If you bash up someone 'cause they're gay, it's hate crime. Not selling you a dress? Not a crime.

Anyway it's fair enough if gay marriage isn't even legal in that state. Buy a dress in your own state. Although I'm not sure why the store needs to know the name of the groom :/

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Manuel to La 2011/08/20 17:32:15

I think it's the lighter side of a hate crime....bashing would be the harsher side....but they were discriminated = crime ...

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F-14NavyVet 2011/08/20 02:34:12 (edited)

No.

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Why should someone be FORCED to spend time with a customer they do not wish to do business with? Perhaps the dressmaker believes gay marriage is morally reprehensible or against their religion and simply did not want to do it for personal reasons - so their business remains one where a majority of their best customers are heterosexual couples who also find homosexuality to be abnormal.

For crying out loud - men and women are even allowed to choose NOT to serve in the military if they have a moral or religious objection to it. Why should a dressmaker have less rights?

If you were a tailor, would you fit 5 pairs of pants of a bum who hadn't bathed for 1-1/2 years? Do you think you should be FORCED to?

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F-14Nav... to F-14Nav... 2011/08/20 02:37:24

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I love playing Libs against one another...

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La to F-14Nav... 2011/08/20 14:54:16

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Lol how many years is 1-1-2?

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F-14Nav... to La 2011/08/21 11:26:24

Oh thanks.... 1-1/2 years

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Manuel to F-14Nav... 2011/08/20 17:33:59

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Then why is the right so uptight about Pro Choice...?

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F-14Nav... to Manuel 2011/08/21 11:32:23

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Which side is backing women's right to hold public office, receive education, choose their own healthcare provider, and supporting their freedom to wear their own choice of clothing? The Right.

Which side is promoting Obama's feds forcing you to BUY whatever health care and insurance they deem you will buy, and supporting radical Islam's push to take away basic human rights of women, other religions, atheists, and gays, and backing Sharia law in America? The Left.

Now what was that talk about freedom of choice?

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Manuel to F-14Nav... 2011/08/24 15:08:40

propaganda at it's best....

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