LEFT RIGHT LEFT: Did CIA Doctors Conduct Medical Experiments on Detainees?
Gil Kaufman
2010/06/11 18:27:24
Left, Right, Left: The Horror This Time, Did CIA Doctors Conduct Medical Experiments on Detainees?
As I wrote about last week, George W. Bush has recently begun emerging from his self-imposed 18-month exile and one of his first orders of business was to confirm that, under his direction, the U.S. used a banned torture method, waterboarding, on 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. And he added, he’d do it again if given the chance.
That revelation was followed by disturbing reports this week that CIA doctors may have observed the illegal acts committed by U.S. forces, which, if true, paints the most dire picture yet of a Bush administration that not only played by its own secretive rules, but possibly participated in breaches of one of modern society’s most fundamental humanitarian tenets.
The simulated drowning technique that has been around since the Spanish Inquisition, and which the Obama administration has said is torture, is banned by all signatories to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Also banned by those conventions is the experimentation on torture victims and prisoners by physicians, a gruesome practice that brings to mind the specter of the demented acts committed by Nazi doctors during World War II. A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has led several civil liberties groups to demand that the White House investigate whether U.S. doctors conducted medical experiments on terror detainees during harsh CIA interrogations under the Bush administration.
The Associated Press reported that a complaint was filed this week with the Health and Human Services Department on behalf of Physicians for Human Rights, as well as Amnesty International USA. The report, based on long-declassified documents, claims that doctors conducted what amounted to illegal experimentation by monitoring terror suspects during waterboarding and periods of forced sleep deprivation. "Medical personnel were required to monitor all waterboarding practices and collect detailed medical information that was used to design, develop and deploy subsequent waterboarding procedures,” according to the report, which also noted that information was gathered on the amount of pain inflicted on detainees when certain interrogation techniques were used at the same time.
As the Washington Post noted, the news about the presence of doctors during enhanced interrogation sessions is not new, but the possibility that medical experimentation may have been conducted is jarring, to say the least. According to PHR, “Investigation and analysis of U.S. government documents by Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) provides evidence indicating that the Bush administration, in the period after Sept. 11, conducted human research and experimentation on prisoners in U.S. custody as part of this monitoring role.”
Additionally, the report’s author recommended that the declassified documents be examined under the microscope of international laws, including the Nuremberg Code, which banned Nazi Germany’s medical experimentation. Author Nathaniel Raymond said the purpose of having physicians present was to see if the pain inflicted violated the Bush administration’s definitions of torture, and not to safeguard detainees’ health. Physicians also reportedly monitored sleep deprivation techniques, which lasted from 48 hours to 180 hours, to make sure it too didn’t cause prolonged physical and mental suffering under the administration’s definition of torture.
Though the doctors’ were not conducting the kind of gruesome experiments undertaken by the Nazi’s Dr. Josef Mengele, their probe into how vicious American interrogators could get before crossing a legal line is suspect at best, a willful breach of the Hippocratic oath at worst.
In fact, the idea that their experiments were aimed at providing immunity to Bush administration officials and the CIA interrogators from potential prosecution for torture is almost more devious. In the infamous “torture memos,” Justice Department lawyers argued that by having physicians monitor their actions, the administration could demonstrate that interrogators did not intend to hard the detainees and that the “lack of intent to cause harm” could provide the crux of their legal defense in the face of prosecution.
The CIA denied any medical experimentation and noted that the interrogation program has been investigated several times already.
A number of prominent military brass have already said that Bush and former VP Dick Cheney’s admissions about waterboarding will likely put more American soldier’s lives at risk, emboldening America’s enemies to use the same kind of reviled torture techniques that Bush repeatedly swore his country would not deploy on enemy combatants and terror suspects.
But worse, after nearly two years of international relations fence-mending by the Obama administration, the report paints a picture of America under Bush as an out-of-control cowboy nation that acted as if none of society’s rules applied to its actions. The constant drum beat of socialism against Obama from the right pales in comparison to the outright totalitarianism employed by Bush in a murky, secretive chapter of America’s history that continues to grow darker and darker with each revelation.
All of it under the guise of keeping the nation safe from radicals hell bent on attacking us, radicals whose ire has no doubt been stoked a thousandfold with each new revelation.
Do you think Congress should investigate the alleged actions of these doctors?
As I wrote about last week, George W. Bush has recently begun emerging from his self-imposed 18-month exile and one of his first orders of business was to confirm that, under his direction, the U.S. used a banned torture method, waterboarding, on 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed. And he added, he’d do it again if given the chance.
That revelation was followed by disturbing reports this week that CIA doctors may have observed the illegal acts committed by U.S. forces, which, if true, paints the most dire picture yet of a Bush administration that not only played by its own secretive rules, but possibly participated in breaches of one of modern society’s most fundamental humanitarian tenets.
The simulated drowning technique that has been around since the Spanish Inquisition, and which the Obama administration has said is torture, is banned by all signatories to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Also banned by those conventions is the experimentation on torture victims and prisoners by physicians, a gruesome practice that brings to mind the specter of the demented acts committed by Nazi doctors during World War II. A new report by Physicians for Human Rights has led several civil liberties groups to demand that the White House investigate whether U.S. doctors conducted medical experiments on terror detainees during harsh CIA interrogations under the Bush administration.
The Associated Press reported that a complaint was filed this week with the Health and Human Services Department on behalf of Physicians for Human Rights, as well as Amnesty International USA. The report, based on long-declassified documents, claims that doctors conducted what amounted to illegal experimentation by monitoring terror suspects during waterboarding and periods of forced sleep deprivation. "Medical personnel were required to monitor all waterboarding practices and collect detailed medical information that was used to design, develop and deploy subsequent waterboarding procedures,” according to the report, which also noted that information was gathered on the amount of pain inflicted on detainees when certain interrogation techniques were used at the same time.
As the Washington Post noted, the news about the presence of doctors during enhanced interrogation sessions is not new, but the possibility that medical experimentation may have been conducted is jarring, to say the least. According to PHR, “Investigation and analysis of U.S. government documents by Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) provides evidence indicating that the Bush administration, in the period after Sept. 11, conducted human research and experimentation on prisoners in U.S. custody as part of this monitoring role.”
Additionally, the report’s author recommended that the declassified documents be examined under the microscope of international laws, including the Nuremberg Code, which banned Nazi Germany’s medical experimentation. Author Nathaniel Raymond said the purpose of having physicians present was to see if the pain inflicted violated the Bush administration’s definitions of torture, and not to safeguard detainees’ health. Physicians also reportedly monitored sleep deprivation techniques, which lasted from 48 hours to 180 hours, to make sure it too didn’t cause prolonged physical and mental suffering under the administration’s definition of torture.
Though the doctors’ were not conducting the kind of gruesome experiments undertaken by the Nazi’s Dr. Josef Mengele, their probe into how vicious American interrogators could get before crossing a legal line is suspect at best, a willful breach of the Hippocratic oath at worst.
In fact, the idea that their experiments were aimed at providing immunity to Bush administration officials and the CIA interrogators from potential prosecution for torture is almost more devious. In the infamous “torture memos,” Justice Department lawyers argued that by having physicians monitor their actions, the administration could demonstrate that interrogators did not intend to hard the detainees and that the “lack of intent to cause harm” could provide the crux of their legal defense in the face of prosecution.
The CIA denied any medical experimentation and noted that the interrogation program has been investigated several times already.
A number of prominent military brass have already said that Bush and former VP Dick Cheney’s admissions about waterboarding will likely put more American soldier’s lives at risk, emboldening America’s enemies to use the same kind of reviled torture techniques that Bush repeatedly swore his country would not deploy on enemy combatants and terror suspects.
But worse, after nearly two years of international relations fence-mending by the Obama administration, the report paints a picture of America under Bush as an out-of-control cowboy nation that acted as if none of society’s rules applied to its actions. The constant drum beat of socialism against Obama from the right pales in comparison to the outright totalitarianism employed by Bush in a murky, secretive chapter of America’s history that continues to grow darker and darker with each revelation.
All of it under the guise of keeping the nation safe from radicals hell bent on attacking us, radicals whose ire has no doubt been stoked a thousandfold with each new revelation.
Do you think Congress should investigate the alleged actions of these doctors?
Top Opinion
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smileyseven 2010/06/12 05:38:09I think Congress should…+8i think certain inmates should be used as lab rats. if they did a crime horrible enough to be sentenced to death then i think they should be used as testing animals.





















For those of you who believe that it is alright to torture, just remember; once it has been accepted as okay to do to our "enemies", it is only one small step before it is okay to do to our own people.
Remember what Bush said..."It's just a GD piece of paper." (referring to the constitution.)
Please don't give me the old argument about rising above you enemy, lest I remind all that all's fair in love and war. If a nation takes prisoners for the purpose of gleaning information. It serves you not to put them into country club jails and kiss they're ass in hopes that they will tell you what you need to know, because you were so good to them. One more thing. The only thing a terrorist understands and fears himself is terror. Either you want to stop these people or you want to die trying.
thyroxin. When the supply of thyroxin, in the thyroid, is sensed by its internal
transducer to be getting low, it automatically produces more thyroxin. If
thyroxin is squeezed from the thyroid gland, it goes into the blood stream and
causes weight loss. It then produces more thyroxin in response to its emptiness,
soon ready to be squeezed again.
> > Care should be taken not to hurt the thyroid gland. Simple pressure will
squeeze the thyroxin into the blood stream. It is said that if it is done over
and over too much, this can cause a "thyroid storm", like a person with an over
active thyroid. Performed carelessly, or abused, it can be unhealthy.
> > But this is not the only reason this knowledge is suppressed. That area,
known as the "vishudha chakra" in yoga, is heavily wired with muscarinic
parasympathetic neurons, whose stimulation, called "kundalini" in yoga, will
wake up the brain more than the usual 10% brain use, even like LSD, which works
by blocking the inhibitory neurons, whereas, muscarinic nervous system
stimulation works by overriding the inhibitory neurons.
> > The psychedelic drug muscarine doesn't even pass the blood brain barrier. It
also works by exciting the muscarinic nervous system; but, it excites the whole
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thyroxin. When the supply of thyroxin, in the thyroid, is sensed by its internal
transducer to be getting low, it automatically produces more thyroxin. If
thyroxin is squeezed from the thyroid gland, it goes into the blood stream and
causes weight loss. It then produces more thyroxin in response to its emptiness,
soon ready to be squeezed again.
> > Care should be taken not to hurt the thyroid gland. Simple pressure will
squeeze the thyroxin into the blood stream. It is said that if it is done over
and over too much, this can cause a "thyroid storm", like a person with an over
active thyroid. Performed carelessly, or abused, it can be unhealthy.
> > But this is not the only reason this knowledge is suppressed. That area,
known as the "vishudha chakra" in yoga, is heavily wired with muscarinic
parasympathetic neurons, whose stimulation, called "kundalini" in yoga, will
wake up the brain more than the usual 10% brain use, even like LSD, which works
by blocking the inhibitory neurons, whereas, muscarinic nervous system
stimulation works by overriding the inhibitory neurons.
> > The psychedelic drug muscarine doesn't even pass the blood brain barrier. It
also works by exciting the muscarinic nervous system; but, it excites the whole
parasympathetic nervous system, causing undesirably over active bowels, etc., so
it isn't popular in very civilized cultures.
> > Now, we can see another reason why this very effective, and easy, weight
loss secret is suppressed. For example, a very politically powerful mystical
organization kept, suggestive to them, blue candy from the market to protect
their supreme secret, vagal stimulation.
> > Most of the twenty-five million Americans who were committed in the
Twentieth century were committed for knowing too much about their own bodies,
the power of vagal stimulation. To prevent this human rights abuse from cracking
down again, this secret must be spread.
This need further explanation in other groups, and, this was the further
explanation:
The vagus nerve runs from the brain, out and down through the naso-pharynx
and down behind the throat, down into the body. It has branches around the
lungs,
heart, digestive system, and then "down below". It is the called the muscainic
nervous system, for, if it is stimulated enough it wakes up the brain beyond the
normal 10% use, like the hallucinogenic drug muscarine. Here is more information
about it:
> "Waterboarding has replaced LSD for the Clockwork Orange treatment. The
public must be informed that waterboarding causes much more than some physical
discomfort from drowning and smothering. It stimulates the vagus nerve so much
that it puts its victims into what Dr. Stanislav Grof calls "perinatal matrix
three". In perinatal matrix three, one body switches backward and forward in
time into every person that has been seen. The victims are first forced to see
films of people in torment. Then, from enough vagal stimulation the victim body
switches into each and every victim, one by one, backward and forward in time,
to experience them all, and suffers their sufffering as real as life. The
scientific discovery of quantum physicist Dr. Hugh Everett, of a probability
timeline for every possibility, does show that one does actually body switch in
real victims by the Clockwork Orange treatment, caused by LSD, or waterboarding.
The TV's in the cells of victims are not a luxury. These TV's are used to show
horrible torments which the prisoner will soon suffer by the Clockwork Orange
treatment. Crucifixion does the same thing.
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> > > In ancient times initiation into the Sacred Mysteries was caused by
vagal stimulation like this. In the "Aenied" the Witch of Averness said, "You
cannot enter the Underworld (better known as Hell) without the Golden Bough (the
vagus nerve). Vivasection in those days revealed that the vagus nerve looked
like a "golden bough". Dr. Stanislav Grof revealed that Baptism was originally
waterboarding. The Baptism of waterboarding was used for vagal stimulation by
many repositories of the Sacred Mysteries, like the Knights of Bath. The name
Baphomet means the Baptism of Wisdom, and, the devil Baphomet gives the gesture
"as below so above", refering to human physiology. Yet, this is the most
suppressed secret in the world.
> > >
> > > That's THEIR Grand Secret. Vagal stimulation overrides the
inhibitory neurons in the brain, waking up the brain beyond it's normal 10%
brain use. LSD does the same thing by blocking seratonin, the neurotransmitter
of those inhibitory neurons. When the Soviet Union found out that the "lodge"
WAS violating human rights to suppress this knowledge of the human body, Dr.
Stanislav Grof came from Prague, Czechoslovakia, and established Grof
Transpersonal, http://www.holotropic.com where sufficient vagal stimulation is
accomplished by "holotropic breathing". The "lodge" didn't dare touch them. And,
the "hive" theory of network engineering was declared, that, knowledge is
sequestered in groups and goes nowhere.
> > > Then, the Iron Curtain fell. They had violated the noninterference treaty.
Back in the old Iron Curtain countries shamans' disease was public knowledge.
The people were allowed to know that scar tissue in the parasympathetic
(muscarinic) nervous system woke up the brain, beyond the normal 10% brain use.
But, here, behind the "Plastic Curtain", people with shamans' disease were
condemned to the mental hospital gulags, invented by Benjamin Franklin for his
"lodge", and tagged schizophrenic.
> > > Schizophrenia itself is caused by the growth of too many axons and
dendrites between the brain neurons, caused by a gene called DISC1, which also
wakes up the brain beyond the normal 10% brain use. But also, anyone caught
knowing this Grand Secret was tagged schizophrenic, locked up in the mental
hospital gulags, and tortured with dopamine blockers and shock treatments. The
"lodge" was so paranoid about its Grand Secret that no one could get blue candy
until the Twenty-First Century. The availability of blue candy was probably made
possible by the writings of Mike O'Dan the Snakeman, from 1971 through to the
Twenty-First Century, by pointing out this gap, conspicuous by set theory, and
the reason for it.
> > > The "lodge" is the greatest threat to the American way today, and have
been since 1995 when they attempted to remove our human rights by a
constitutional convention. Recently, they have even been trying to put America
under an Islamic governemnt. They are sneaking Sharia Law into our court systems
now. They are also trying to force changes that would eliminate our Bill of
Rights by destroying the economy. If you want to continue enjoying your American
liberties, I suggest that you spread this secret material, for you, too, now
know too much."
> Pressing on the thyroid gland squeezes thyroxin into the body causing
weight loss. The thyroid gland soon fills with thyroxin again to be pressed
again, causing more weight loss, on and on. It just looks like strangulation,
blue candy stains the lips blue, and there can be much vagal stimulation done
there with the "vishudha chakra", thus the "lodge" even used their
un-Constitutional influence to keep blue candy off the market.
> The chakras of yoga are plexuses of the muscarinic nervous system, not
"spiritual wheels of light along the spine". People who want to take more
advanced yoga must sign a contract of secrecy before they are told the truth
about the chakras. And, the yoga instructors are also bound by contracts of
secrecy. And, they even have to sign that their signing these contracts of
secrecy
must be kept secret. I never singed any contract of secrecy. A homeless banished
"lodge"
member told my buddy and I all the secrets in 1959. I put them all in a term
paper in 1962, got a 98% for it, graduated with honors, and joined the Army.
> The instructor of that class had sold that term paprer in the term paper
black market, the wrong people read it, detectives were sent out to hunt me
down, and they got me "over a barrel" in the Army. I was given the "Clockwork
Orange" treatment by large doses of LSD, which puts you in the real Hell. And
later threatened that they would put me in Hell permanently is I ever revealed
the secrets again.
> They didn't offer me membership. I swore an oath to defend the
Constitution of the United States of America. And, that is what I am going to
do!
I have been spreading the secret ever since, as a very angry fugitive.
People whine no matter what America supposedly does or doesn’t do. While “two wrongs don’t make a right”, When your dealing with villainous scum who bombed innocent people just doing their jobs to survive & make a living, it’s impossible to give a dang!
I have a conscience & I despise attempts to manipulate me via my conscience to let scum escape punishment for their evil actions!
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