King Tut’s DNA is Western European
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King Tut’s DNA is Western European
Posted by EU Times on Jun 7th, 2010
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-europ...
Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.
The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.
Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.
On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.
Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).
STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.
These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11
What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.
Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.
He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.
For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.
Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.
Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.
Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.
By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.
So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all
http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Graphics/800px-R1b-DNA-Distribution.jpe
Posted by EU Times on Jun 7th, 2010
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-tuts-dna-is-western-europ...
Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.
The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.
Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.
On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.
Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).
STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.
These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11
What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.
Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.
He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.
For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.
Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.
Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.
Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.
By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.
The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.
So much for the Afro-centrists and others who have derided the very obvious northwestern European appearance of a large number of the pharonic mummies. It seems like March of the Titans was right after all
http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Graphics/800px-R1b-DNA-Distribution.jpe
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RhinoRT 2010/07/12 21:48:33
Pharaohs had brown skin, but for sure not black like Nubians, sometimes red, caramel, etc. hair. (also most pharaoh mummies have straight or wavy hair, but not woolly like Nubians)
Only after 25 Dynasty there were Black (Nubian) pharaohs.
I think these pictures would represent the most likeliness to pharaohs:
Indigenous Egyptians/Copts: (not-Arabs)
"The population of North Africa in ancient times consisted predominantly of Berbers in the West and Egyptians in the East.
The Semitic Phoenicians and Jews, the Iranian Alans, and the European Greeks, Romans and Vandals settled in North Africa as well.
Berber speaking populations constitute significant communities within Morocco and Algeria and are also still present in smaller numbers in Tunisia and Libya.
The Tuareg and other often-nomadic peoples are the principal inhabitants of the Saharan interior of North Africa.
The Nubians, who developed an ancient civilization in Northeast Africa (Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia), are among the predominately Nilo-Saharan-speaking groups found in Sudan, in addition to the Fur, Zaghawa and Nuba, among others."
Egyptians:
Berbers:
Berber redheads & blondes:
"The prehistoric populations of North Africa are related to the wider group of Paleo-Mediterranean peoples.
The Afroasiatic phylum probably originated in the mesolithic period, perhaps in the context of the Capsian culture.
DNA analysis has found commonalities between Berber populations and those of the Sami people of Scandinavia showing a link dating from around 9,000 years ago.
By 5000 BC, the populations of North Africa are an amalgamation of Ibero-Maurisian and Capsian stock blended with a more recent intrusion associated with the Neolithic revolution.
Out of these populations, the proto-Berber tribes form during the Late Bronze to Early Iron Age."
Sami People:
But Afrocentrists will never accept the science, genetic analysts of mummies, etc. & will keep showing to you artistic paintings to prove that Nubians are the real Egyptians! LOL
PS
"Microscopic inspection of the roots of Ramesses II hair proved that the king's hair was originally red, which suggests that he came from a family of redheads.
This has more than just cosmetic significance: in ancient Egypt people with red hair were associated with the god Seth, the slayer of Osiris, and the name of Ramesses II's father, Seti I, means "follower of Seth."
The Ramessides (the family of Ramesses II), believed themselves to be divine descendants of Seth, with their red hair as proof of their lineage."
Ramsses II
Yuya
Tuya
Thutmose IV
Hatshepsut
Also the guy on the left in your image is obviously not black and they guy on the right is obviously black, lips, nose and all are different, though kinda have similar eyes and face shape. The guy on the right is a black guy with eye liner. See this
Most pharaoh mummies have straight or wavy hair, but not woolly as Nubians.
Also, you can read about hair color even in Tora / Old Testament.
One example:
“And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.” (1 Samuel l 17:42)
Another translation from Hebrew is golden-haired.
About Obama... Obama's mother was a Jew & father had Arab ancestors, so Obama is Semitic (Jew-Arab) more than African. LOL
And so, Obama's face looks more Semitic than black. )))
This is clearly and African, so shove that European crap, back up your ass!
Secondly what you say doesn't match physical examination, many osteological test conducted on Egyptian crania, show a parallel between Nubian skulls and Egyptians. This was proven on Thutmose.
http://wysinger.homestead.com...
Here's a source from Sonia R Zakrzewski, Department of Archaeology
If i bring out anything else... you will be killed by your own ignorance.
So your telling me... Even though British Acrhaeologist E.A.Wallis.Budge proved a direct cultural link, between the ancient Egyptian religion and those of SSA, you would still be ignorant? Clear cultural connection here!
Nubian Amry
Egyptian Army
Sub Saharan African link and Influence, and let's not even get into how many pyramids were built in the Sudan, as opposed to Egypt...
your failing to prove Egyptians were anything other than African in origin, and had no direct relation to their predecessors of the south!! How sad...
I think it's quite clear who the Egyptians were. Africans indeed! No real explanation is necessary...
These appear to be African women. Indigenous to the continent!
Guess you thought all Africans looked like this... HUH? :/
STILL NOT SEEING THAT YOUR EUROPEAN CONNECTION!!
Have you seen the history of my people? Because if you had... You wouldn't sound like an unlearned joke.
Don't waste your time responding! YOU'VE BEEN DEBUNKED!!
Genetic analysis of Mummies is scientific.
Here is a clear depiction of Ramses in his life, with the same brown skin the Egyptians always have! Your telling me... it's mere coincidence that they are always painted the same way?!!
So i guess this depiction of the Mayans, and Maya Indians, bare no relation either??
Like i said, please don't come on the internet making ridiculous claims!
Especially when i have personally consulted, and collected numerous amounts of
evidence supporting an African Egypt. I'll give you credit, Greeks ruled Egypt during the Ptolemy dynasty, and Rome afterward! But unless you come up with a more solid rebuttal, to discredit an African Egypt, i suggest you shut your mouth! Let's also consider the fact that the Egyptians themselves came from Sub Saharan Africa, from the land of Punt(Ta'Netjer), Modern day Eritrea!
Also if you payed any attention, I referenced Archaeologist E.A. Wallis Budge! He wrote and academic journal, pointing out the origins of Egyptian culture! His conclusion, Sub Saharan Africa! Clearly you didn't read the anatomical study done by Archaeologist Sonia R. Zakzewski!! Do i really need to copy and paste the whole source! I know your generation has a problem with doing actual research!
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Here is a clear depiction of Ramses in his life, with the same brown skin the Egyptians always have! Your telling me... it's mere coincidence that they are always painted the same way?!!
So i guess this depiction of the Mayans, and Maya Indians, bare no relation either??
Like i said, please don't come on the internet making ridiculous claims!
Especially when i have personally consulted, and collected numerous amounts of
evidence supporting an African Egypt. I'll give you credit, Greeks ruled Egypt during the Ptolemy dynasty, and Rome afterward! But unless you come up with a more solid rebuttal, to discredit an African Egypt, i suggest you shut your mouth! Let's also consider the fact that the Egyptians themselves came from Sub Saharan Africa, from the land of Punt(Ta'Netjer), Modern day Eritrea!
Also if you payed any attention, I referenced Archaeologist E.A. Wallis Budge! He wrote and academic journal, pointing out the origins of Egyptian culture! His conclusion, Sub Saharan Africa! Clearly you didn't read the anatomical study done by Archaeologist Sonia R. Zakzewski!! Do i really need to copy and paste the whole source! I know your generation has a problem with doing actual research!
You can also look up (Christoper Ehert), He's African linguist and historian of UCLA! Who could easily disprove you!! I don't have time for people, who's only response to my information, ("PS Paintings are not scientific, they are artistic.
Genetic analysis of Mummies is scientific.") <------... Then present a study disproving my information! Your opinions don't count, against cold hard facts!!
I posted the paintings and pictures of real Africans, so you could observe there features! Which clearly you have a hard time doing!
Maybe being such a racial and ethnic mutt just makes me see things differently, but I am immensely proud of every component of my ethnic mix -- I'm proud of my White heritage, my Black heritage, and my Asian heritage -- and all the little regional and cultural parts of those heritages. They have ALL contributed valuable parts of the whole person I am. I just don't understand why everybody can't look at a discovery like this and say, hmmmm, maybe we all have more in common than we realized instead of turning it into a hate-fest.
Umpty-thousand years of human existence and we're still no better than this.
If Tut was "white" (and "white" may have been different 3,300 years ago than it appears on the surface today), what about his subjects? Was Egypt an ancient melting pot of races and cultures? Were the pharaohs kings because they were so different from their subjects that they were accepted as gods? If they were ethnically different, where did they come from? How did they rise to power in Egypt? Etc., etc.
Why can't we be fascinated to find the answers to these mysteries and learn from them something that might help us solve modern cultural and ethnic controversies, rather than surrender to the impulse to become contentious over it?
And 20,000 years from now, everyone will be light skinned, if we will hide from sun as today. LOL
Interesting comments at cited website ---
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/0...