Kenyan born Obama narrative: who started it?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/24 16:06:35
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Breitbart.com’s Big Government organ reported
on the earliest “Kenyan born Obama” text. Shown is a booklet from Acton
and Dystel, Literary Agents. (They have since changed their name to
Dystel and Goderich.) The former A&D; produced these “promotional
booklets” to send to editors and publishers. That is one of many ways
that literary agents get contracts for their clients.

A&D; used this booklet to “shop” Barack Obama to publishers in 1991. Here is how they described him:

Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the
Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and
Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance
minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial
journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He
served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest
Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing
Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social
and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.

(Note: Obama never published Journeys in Black and White, according to Breitbart.)

Obama’s apologists insisted that someone at A&D; “made a
fact-checking error.” But Breitbart’s writers asked the questions no one
else bothered to ask:

  1. Why did A&D;/D&G; use this Kenyan born Obama narrative as recently as 2007? The Wayback Machine does not lie about things like this.
  2. Why did they use the Kenyan born Obama narrative repeatedly?

Here is the blurb on Barack Obama that appeared in the D&G; client list in 2007:

BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from
Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic
National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of
the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American
anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in
Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller.

Then they answered their own question. Barack Obama wrote his own biography. Why? Because Acton and Dystel asked all their clients to do this. D&G; ask this of their clients today; it’s in their guidelines. And those are standard writers’ guidelines that any literary agent sets for his clients.

Barack Obama: Kenyan born Obama or American born? He has said both!

Barack H. Obama. Photo: Pete Souza, January 13, 2009

Nor was A&D;/D&G; the only entity to describe the Kenyan born Obama. No less than the Associated Press published this article in 2004, when he ran for Senate against Jack Ryan. Note the headline:

Kenyan born Obama all set for US Senate.

The article opened with this:

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared
set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack
Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid
sex club allegations.

The article leads with a head shot of Obama. But the body of it talks
about former Senator Jack Ryan (R-IL), his action-adventure actress
wife Jeri, and their bitter divorce. That might explain why everyone
forgot this article, and its lead paragraph.

This Wayback Machine entry has been available for nearly three years now. The first to notice
it was Alex Jones, at InfoWars.com. InfoWars concluded then what
Breitbart says now: Barack Obama touted himself as Kenyan born when he
ran for the United States Senate.

So what does this mean?

Well, for one thing, it means that Obama flat-out lied about where he came from, either before 2008 or beginning then and to this day.

For another, it means that he has none to blame but himself for the Kenyan born Obama narrative cropping up today. If he really is American born, he should never have said that he wasn't.

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  • HOMBRE 2012/05/24 16:40:35
    Obama started it. The Wayback Machine doesn't lie.
    Clinton was the one that put the truth out there when she was running for president, She tossed that out trying to win the nomination for president,

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  • JackSchitt 2012/05/24 21:14:51
    Up until last week my answer would have been "the Hillary Clinton supporters" who circulated an anonymous email questioning Obama’s citizenship during the primary in 2008.

    Now we see this write-up from Obama's literary agent from clear back in 1991. Since Obama obviously contributed & approved it....I would now say Obama started it. Apparently it is another one of his dishonesty issues where his birthplace changes depending on what he is trying to accomplish.

    Maybe his birthplace is "evolving".
  • Uranos7 JackSchitt 2012/05/24 23:55:00
    Good one!
  • critica... JackSchitt 2012/05/25 03:21:25
    There is nothing to even remotely suggest that he contributed or approved it. Hell no one can swear that he ever even saw it.
  • JackSchitt critica... 2012/05/25 04:50:59
    Yeah, I can see it now. He writes his very first book and hires the Dystel & Goderich agency to represent him. Instead of providing them information for his bio, he lets them dig up whatever facts they can get from his sealed past. Then over the next 16 years he never sees what they wrote about him in the pamphlets or on their website where it was posted until 2007. Dystel never provides their client a SINGLE copy of the pamphlet. None of his friends or acquaintances EVER mentioned it to him either.

    And now we're hearing from other writers who used Dystel in the early 90's, and they had to write their OWN bios. Curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say ....
  • kaZappoo critica... 2012/05/26 02:13:54
    for as publisher to print a book, it isnt done until it's reviewd ..approved then goes to press//

  • littleb... critica... 2012/06/15 02:40:19
    Seems Jack Schitt is winning in critical thought and debate! Makes NO sense that he had hired someone who he makes millions from and OoopSiEEEE!
  • kaZappoo JackSchitt 2012/05/26 02:12:05
    and his idols are defending the imposter ....!
  • Plantgypc 2012/05/24 21:14:49
    Obama started it. The Wayback Machine doesn't lie.
    At this point I don't give a rat's ass. Just vote him out and than go after him for it.
  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2012/05/24 21:03:58
    Obama started it. The Wayback Machine doesn't lie.
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    Actually his citizenship was questioned at age five according to Government records when the family was moving to Indonesia.
  • john Kills 2012/05/24 20:50:26
    Obama started it. The Wayback Machine doesn't lie.
    john Kills
    He and congress should be jailed. They swore to uphold the constitution.
  • critica... john Kills 2012/05/25 03:23:09
    If they did, they might jail you.
  • kaZappoo critica... 2012/05/26 02:16:52 (edited)
    why would they jail John ...or me for that matter ,,,or you running out of legit rebuttal matterial ?
  • kaZappoo 2012/05/24 20:13:51
    Obama started it. The Wayback Machine doesn't lie.
    OBAMA would have been allright if he'd stayed as a senator ..

    but his ego / narcissim ..and groomers got in the way ,,,then it was how can we hide the truth , and "place " the person groomed for socialism to be a prez ..??

    ya all know the rest ,,,,but many could be subliminally indoctrinated "BRAINWASHED " and many couldnt be ...and those indoctrinated are trying to desimate the ones who can resist this with their insults ...the only things they dont know how to do ....

    so the resistees know the truth , and this doesnt set well for the factions agenda ....so the "liberals " dems ...continue with this quest under their idol to defeat the smart ones of us ...

    but it's not working .....!

    then many of the unhypnotisable of us are not repub's either ...we just know obama has to go ..!

    because his "FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING OF AMERICA is into socialism ....and usher in the NWO ...global socialization (communism )
  • Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum 2012/05/24 19:36:35
    The Birthers started it. All those other images are Photoshopped.
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    There is no record of Obama promoting himself as Kenyan born.
  • Joe61 Warren ... 2012/05/24 19:47:06
    Get your head out of the sand and see the greenery around you.
  • Warren ... Joe61 2012/05/24 19:56:21
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    I notice you cannot refute my statement, so you respond with ad hominem. Dude, that is called "losing an argument".
  • Joe61 Warren ... 2012/05/24 20:03:24
    Sorry....refute what statement...You have obviously been living in outer space for the past week....Obama himself made the statement in a booklet he wrote. So we got straight from the horses mouth so to speak. Obama s Kentan roots in Booklet sleeve

    Obama s Kentan roots in Booklet sleeve
  • Warren ... Joe61 2012/05/24 20:06:22
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    You have not refuted my statement. Those are not the words of Obama.
  • Joe61 Warren ... 2012/05/24 20:10:01
    OK they are the words of Genghis Khan then, does that make you happier.....They where the words that Obama collaborated with the publisher and that is good enough for me.
  • COMALite J Joe61 2012/05/24 22:49:46
    COMALite J
    Not only are they not Obama’s words (Obama would not write about himself in the third person like that, especially in such negative terms), they don’t even remotely say what you claimed. Nowhere in there is there even an implication that Obama was born in Kenya. It’s about Obama returning the Churchhill bust to Britain, and a British tabloid rag (you do know that “The Telegraph” is basically the British equivalent of “The National Enquirer,” right? [At least it’s not as bad as “The Daily Mail,” which is more like “The Weekly World News”]) hypothesizing that he did so because of Churchhill’s suppression of the Mau Mau rebellion.
  • Dan ☮ R... COMALite J 2012/05/24 23:25:02
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    They are his own words. How it works is that you submit your bio. If there are any edits, you are notified. That is how literary agents work. Same goes for any future revisions, and it was revised more than once in the 16 years it said he was born in Kenya. This means Obama had to have known, and did nothing to fix it at the very least.
  • COMALite J Dan ☮ R... 2012/05/26 00:36:36 (edited)
    COMALite J
    Sorry, but Miriam Goderich, the “G” in “A&G,” who knows more about how that particular literary agent works than either of us (or Temlakos) does, and who was the actual person who actually entered in that bio, says that you’re wrong.
  • Dan ☮ R... COMALite J 2012/05/26 01:10:01
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    In other words, a random person on the internet's word trumps industry standard, and common logic.
  • Joe61 COMALite J 2012/05/25 06:04:00 (edited)
    Collaboration is the key word here....He would not want any thing said in the bibliography that would paint himself in a bad light. So anything written regards his past life would have had, to have had his express approval.

    If you care to google the Illinois Standard in 2004. There is a banner headline that starts "Kenyan Born Barack Obama" when he was standing for a Senate seat. The headline was not an unfavourable report on the contrary, it was actually painting a very dingnified picture. So in my opinion Obama's Kenyan birth must have been common knowledge then.
  • COMALite J Joe61 2012/05/26 00:38:48
    COMALite J
    Last paragraph first: check out my Answer Post in this thread. It’s newly entered, and addressed to Temlakos.

    As for your first paragraph, see my Reply to Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012.
  • Joe61 COMALite J 2012/05/26 06:12:35
    Amazingly, no mention is made that Churchill like Obama was half American, both having had been born to an American mother.

    When Churchill made his first address to the US Congress,, on 26 December 1941 just 19 days after Japan had bombed Pearl Harbour, he famously (and impishly) told the assembled Senators and Representatives "If my father had been American and my mother British, instead of the other way 'round, I might have got here on my own!"

    Churchill was born by an an American mother, just as Obama was. But Churchill, but regognised that having an American mother did not qualify him as being American, it was the fact that his Father was Britrish and he was born in Britain that made him uniquely British and not American.
  • COMALite J Joe61 2012/05/27 00:35:12 (edited)
    COMALite J
    Nice try, but Churchhill was raised British and was very anti-women’s suffrage. He was a truly great man, but like all human beings, he did have his flaws, and one of them was believing that women were not equal to men (despite his nation being at least figuratively ruled by ruling Queens several times in then-recent memory as well as now — and remember, this was before Margaret Thatcher).

    Example quote:
    The women's suffrage movement is only the small edge of the wedge, if we allow women to vote it will mean the loss of social structure and the rise of every liberal cause under the sun. Women are well represented by their fathers, brothers, and husbands.

    So, of course, he personally would’ve considered that the citizenship of the father is what counts.

    Even in his day, though, let alone decades later when Obama was born, the USA had already ratified the Nineteenth Amendment which made women equal to men at least in the political arena.

    Also, what he was speaking of was British law (which, as a self-identified British subject, he identified with), not American. British law has no say in the USA (and hasn’t since 1776), and vice-versa.
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/24 20:18:16
    OMG .......your not for real are you ???

    his autobiography .......!
  • Warren ... kaZappoo 2012/05/24 21:33:25
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    OMG... are you for real???? that is NOT his autobiography.
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/25 00:17:26
    an autobio...is where you tell about your self.....and that was the summary of the book ...

    and yea I'm for real are you ?

    I think not ...another obamabot ......definately ....
  • Warren ... kaZappoo 2012/05/25 15:14:15
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    Your ignorance is astounding. An autobiography, by definition, is written by the subject. This was writtem by Miriam Goderich, not Obama. Therefore, it is not an autobiography:


    Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

    "This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
  • Temlako... Warren ... 2012/05/25 15:16:20
    That's not the way I read it. Miriam Goderich got her material from BHO. In fact, read the guidelines at D&G. Clients write their own bios. Standard boilerplace at every agency I've checked out.
  • Warren ... Temlako... 2012/05/25 15:30:32
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    Goderich did not write the bio when she was at D&G.
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/25 16:22:47
    again the liberal mind ,, the avutbiography iiis a sefl writted dosiea about the subject ,,and given to the pubisher to be written about the subject ,

    is that understood better ? ..
    .I'm just trying to help TEMLAKO ,,here ...
  • Warren ... kaZappoo 2012/05/25 16:54:27
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    Could you translate into standard written English?
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/25 17:06:42
    my point ....the liberal mind isnt capable of understanding this concept nor able to absorbe it ...
  • Warren ... kaZappoo 2012/05/25 17:54:12
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    it might help if you had passed third grade level written English.
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/25 19:07:04
    so you have nothing to defend your Bull**IT ???
  • kaZappoo Warren ... 2012/05/25 16:18:54
    in you first paragraph ...you indicted ,,it's written BY THE SUBJECT ,AND ABOUT THE SUBJECT ""

    AH the liberal mind ,,,,such a terrible thing to waste ...!

    but it is wasted ,,,,it's NOT YOUR FAULT !!

    the indoctrination is fully attached to your brain "or whats left of it ""!!!

    and your news sources are biased ,,,there for hardly credible !!
  • Israel kaZappoo 2012/05/24 22:24:41

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