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Justice Scalia doesn't think he should read the complete 2,700 pages of Obama's health care. Should he read every page before making a decision?

kudabux 2012/04/05 21:57:24
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During the oral arguments over the health-care law, Justice Scalia
got big laugh lines when he expressed horror that anyone would actually
expect them to read the 2,700-page law:


"You really want us to go through these 2,700 pages? And
do you really expect the Court to do that? Or do you expect us to — to
give this function to our law clerks? Is this not totally unrealistic?
That we are going to go through this enormous bill item by item and
decide each one?"



Seriously, this is the biggest case in years (decades?), and he's
horrified that he might actually have to spend a few days reading it?
This is about what the typical law student reads every week. And Justice
Scalia can't be bothered?


Let's remember what's at stake here:


To be clear, the Affordable Care Act is a very long bill,
and it includes far more than just a provision requiring people to buy
insurance. It has expanded insurance coverage for millions of people by
allowing young adults to stay on their parents’ insurance plans until
26, and it prevents insurance companies from denying someone coverage
because of a pre-existing condition. Scalia is brushing off a bill that
could dramatically expand affordable health insurance to the 50 million
Americans who are currently uninsured — that is, so long as the Supreme
Court does not strike down the entire law. (source)


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  • Farnsworth 2012/04/06 01:16:30
    No, he should cherry pick what interests him
    Farnsworth
    +23
    Why should he?

    The idiots that passed the damned thing didn't.

    Did you forget Pelosi? "We have to pass it to see whats in it" or is that an inconvenient truth??

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  • Brian T... Franklin 2012/04/06 18:27:38
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    It is true Romney was Governor of Massachusetts, but I would imagine that place can only be run from the left. So, I am hoping that has little to do with what kind of president he would be.

    Yup. A second Obama term is as about as bad as it can get.
  • Franklin Brian T... 2012/04/06 18:46:45
    Franklin
    +1
    ...Obama unchained - its hard to get your head around but his coment for the leader of Russia does make us think about it / Obama is thinking about it
  • Brian T... Franklin 2012/04/07 02:17:50
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    Oh he made a comment the the Brady gun banners, and various others about how he will not have to answer to the electorate, since he will not be running again after a second term, "when reelected." The comments to the Russians, and the Iranians are just the continuation of his hubris he will get a second term in office.

    I have some very bad news for the president though, I just hope he takes it better than Al Gore did, you know. I mean Al's kids are grown, Barak's are not, and the girls kind of need their dad around, and not go off the deep end.
  • Franklin Brian T... 2012/04/07 14:55:19
    Franklin
    +1
    Obama's girls ? They don't need him remember the older one went to Mexico on spring break alone ...his kids hardly know he is still alive - they only see him if he needs a photo op - His girls are doomed just like the Clintons "little dog" who is a messed up lesbian radical making her way into the same dirty game her mom has been playing for 30 years ...none of the children of Democrats ever add up to anything and never will ....you just can't use the same lies twice and those kids are to stupid to ever realize that what they know is false
  • Brian T... Franklin 2012/04/07 20:37:31
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    You will have to forgive me, as I tend to leave family relationships out of my political observations. But I do say that the Obama girls still need their daddy not acting like Al. Al is just cringe worthy, even for the most ardent liberal.
  • Franklin Brian T... 2012/04/08 13:57:18
    Franklin
    +1
    not a bad rule / but one that democrats will not honor - think of any one of them and tell me they don't use their kids and force their views on them ...just an observation . LOL
  • Brian T... Franklin 2012/04/09 06:52:24
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    The left will never honor that one, ever. Hell, they had to be told to back off of Chelsea, by the Clintons of all people.

    I keep my focus on who steps into the arena, not people who are related, or know them. And children are off limits. Aside from the fact that the girls are just girls, and they are not in public office, it distracts from what their father is doing in the elected office he occupies.

    And although they are used, personal attacks are below the belt as far as I am concerned. Unless something is made an issue, then it is out of bounds. Sandra Fluke is a perfect example. Until she testified in front of the thrown together committee for the media, she would have been a private citizen, but she entered the arena on the premise of birth control being unaffordable, and being portrayed as a dirt poor law school student. Once she did that, she became a tool of the Administration, and fair game.
  • Franklin Brian T... 2012/04/09 12:45:17
    Franklin
    +1
    I agree - my "attack" was not on the girl who went to Mexico on our dime ...it was against the parents who let her go there alone . Liberals would fail to see who I was attacking when I objected to that and I tend to just let them as they can not be shown anything -
  • Brian T... Franklin 2012/04/10 05:00:04
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    Yes, being critical of a parent's decision is not an attack on the child. I avoid that too, LOL, as it takes to long to explain to a zealot from the left. If dealing with an adversary from the left, I tend to stick to the points, and shy away from nicknames, or concepts like ethics, morality, or good vs. evil. Got to keep it simple.

    "Do not try to teach a pig how to sing.
    It annoys the pig, and it wastes your time."
    LMAO
  • DM Twin 2012/04/06 05:24:15
  • Charles E DM Twin 2012/04/06 07:01:58
    Charles E
    +1
    Rude, but right.
  • DM Twin Charles E 2012/04/06 15:27:04
    DM Twin
    +1
    I'll take it .
  • kudabux DM Twin 2012/04/06 13:36:28
    kudabux
    Dear BowelMovement, thank you for your insane, rude, nitwit remarks
  • DM Twin kudabux 2012/04/06 15:27:28
    DM Twin
    Dear Dimwit I was talking about...piss off.
  • Ray Ellen 2012/04/06 04:59:25
    Yes, he should read the entire 2,700 pages
    Ray Ellen
    +2
    WOMEN-MINORITIES-GAY-STRAIGHT:
    USE your VOICE or LOSE your VOICE so your (children)DAUGHTER'S have a VOICE and FREEDOM of CHOICE!

    Was it not the HOUSE (John Boehner)had everyone read the Constitution word for word. The Justice's need to give President Obama the same respect and read the whole 2,700 pages.

    If the health care law is overturned, do you not think we will believe if they had read the ENTIRE BILL they may have a different outcome. It's a very IMPORTANT BILL and before it's overturned the Justice's need to realize the NEGATIVE affect it will have on WOMEN,ELDERLY,CHILDREN and the POOR!
  • DM Twin Ray Ellen 2012/04/06 05:29:49
    DM Twin
    +5
    Which part of " They are ruling ONLY upon whether the manndate is Constitutional "...do you NOT UNDERSTAND?????

    If the Mandate is Unconstitutional... WHICH IT IS.....THE WHOLE THING IS TOSSED....see...there's this little thing called a NO SEVERABILITY CLAUSE....that means ...one part Unconstitutional...THE WHOLE THING UNCONSTITUTIONAL......GET It NOW ???

    Sorry you are among thE DIMWITS who weren't paying attention when THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE at the time..NANCY PELOSI SAID ..." WE HAVE TO PASS IT SO WE CAN CAN...SEE WHAT IS IN IT ..".....THAT WAS OK WITH YOU wasn't it ???

    Our turn now......enjoy DEFEAT !
  • Charles E DM Twin 2012/04/06 07:03:28
    Charles E
    +2
    Probably doesn't understand anything after "T".
  • kudabux DM Twin 2012/04/06 13:37:27
    kudabux
    BowelMovement,you are at it again. Are you constipated?
  • DM Twin kudabux 2012/04/06 15:29:25
    DM Twin
    Dimwit I was talking about...still don't understand??.. understandable...
  • Charles E Ray Ellen 2012/04/06 07:05:09
    Charles E
    +1
    Since many members of the House at that time had voted for Obamacare, they needed to be reminded of what was (and was NOT) in the Constitution they swore to uphold when they started collecting their paychecks.
  • Red_Horse 2012/04/06 04:54:14
  • goatman112003 2012/04/06 04:52:56
    No, he should cherry pick what interests him
    goatman112003
    +2
    His job is judge whether the law is constitutional or not , not whether its good or bad. All he reads is the areas challenged not the whole thing.
  • Simi Dave 2012/04/06 04:07:18
    No, he should cherry pick what interests him
    Simi Dave
    +3
    Congress didn't read it. Why should the Supremes?
  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2012/04/06 03:57:13
    Yes, he should read the entire 2,700 pages
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +2
    He should either read it or toss it all out. Only two choices, all others is just wrong.
  • gary 2012/04/06 03:56:15
  • DM Twin gary 2012/04/06 05:30:08
    DM Twin
    +4
    Which part of " They are ruling ONLY upon whether the manndate is Constitutional "...do you NOT UNDERSTAND?????

    If the Mandate is Unconstitutional... WHICH IT IS.....THE WHOLE THING IS TOSSED....see...there's this little thing called a NO SEVERABILITY CLAUSE....that means ...one part Unconstitutional...THE WHOLE THING UNCONSTITUTIONAL......GET It NOW ???

    Sorry you are among thE DIMWITS who weren't paying attention when THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE at the time..NANCY PELOSI SAID ..." WE HAVE TO PASS IT SO WE CAN CAN...SEE WHAT IS IN IT ..".....THAT WAS OK WITH YOU wasn't it ???

    Our turn now......enjoy DEFEAT !
  • kudabux DM Twin 2012/04/06 13:39:57
    kudabux
    BowelMovement, take an Exlax please exlax
  • DM Twin kudabux 2012/04/06 15:32:51
  • Charles E gary 2012/04/06 07:07:33
    Charles E
    +3
    Only part of the bill is being challenged in this case! Why does he need to read more than what he is being asked to rule on?
  • Pat 2012/04/06 03:53:20
    Yes, he should read the entire 2,700 pages
    Pat
    +2
    Even if he had no intention of reading it, he should not have scoffed at reading it. Clearly he is already biased against this bill and the American people will be the losers for it.
  • Charles E Pat 2012/04/06 07:08:39
    Charles E
    +3
    Which simply puts him on the other end of the scale from Keagan, who helped write it.
  • kudabux Pat 2012/04/06 13:40:49
    kudabux
    My thoughts exactly.
  • Kat 2012/04/06 03:40:14
    Yes, he should read the entire 2,700 pages
    Kat
    +5
    The first idiots that signed off on it didn't read it, big part of the problem, unless he guarantees he'll vote to scrap the whole thing he needs to read it.

    Any bill too preponderous to read should be scrapped or take out all the excess pork. Something like this they assume will pass gets every hairbrained bit of legislation they want passed but know wouldn't otherwise get there. Should be illegal to pass laws on us that they don't read. This stuff is never going to apply to them so they don't care if it works, just like SS and Medicare. Vote them all out and start over. Demand new rules.
  • Sterling 2012/04/06 03:37:35
    Yes, he should read the entire 2,700 pages
    Sterling
    +6
    Depends. Honestly he shouldn't have to read it unless he is going to call it constitutional. All he has to do is read enough to find in unconstitutional.

    The problem is people are passing bills that are 2,700 pages of law-speak that no one can read so people can put just about anything in them. Why not just make it shorter? Do we really need an 8 million word tax code? Please go look at our tax code and tell me that bureaucracy makes sense.

    Why do we want MORE bureaucracy in our life, especially in our healthcare?
  • Kat Sterling 2012/04/06 03:41:55
    Kat
    +3
    We don't. Total BS. I agree read it or scrap it, then scrap tax code.
  • Charles E Sterling 2012/04/06 07:10:49
    Charles E
    +2
    Excellent, excelent point. Read till he finds anything unconstitutional and his job is done.
    Shouldn't take more than a few pages.
  • holly go lightly 2012/04/06 03:25:02
    No, he should cherry pick what interests him
    holly go lightly
    +2
    I see no reason for him to read any of it.
  • Marty9957 2012/04/06 03:22:49
    No, he doesn't have to read it at all. He already has made up his mind.
    Marty9957
    +6
    That's not Justice Scalia's job. His job is to vote as to the constitutionality of the mandate. He needs to send it back to the congress and tell them that it has to be done again because they didn't get it right this time around. How can you get it right when nobody read the damn thing
  • apachehellfire65 2012/04/06 03:15:44
    No, he doesn't have to read it at all. He already has made up his mind.
    apachehellfire65
    +7
    why should HE read it? none of the democrats in congress did before they passed it!
  • Sterling apacheh... 2012/04/06 03:39:17 (edited)
    Sterling
    +5
    My question is... who the hell is writing these bills that nobody wants to read? Do they have a computer program drafting it up or manatees randomly selecting commonly used law phrases?

    manatee

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