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Drue-AFCL 2012/06/10 18:36:05
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  • Al B Thayer 2012/06/11 03:30:01
    Al B Thayer
    Secrets?
  • zapped 2012/06/11 02:30:34
    zapped
    +1
    the people were supposed to be able to review the healthcare reform before it's vote in congress /or senate ??

    that didnt happen either ...!
  • gocar 2012/06/11 00:21:25
    gocar
    America needs desparately a national health system. What we have now is too expensive and out of reach of too many people. 50 million uninusured is more than the rest of us can fund. We need everyone to start paying in to spread the cost more evenly. It is like having no insurance on you car and the rest of us have to pay more because of it. Plus the prices go up to cover the costs of the uninsured.
  • Al B Th... gocar 2012/06/11 05:02:52
    Al B Thayer
    You have the # of uninsured a little high. 40 million is the # and of the 40 million. 13 million are thoses in their 30s that can afford it but don't buy it because they choose not too. 20+ million are illegals. So while it is a problem, it isn't as bad as some have painted it.
  • ed 2012/06/10 22:58:44
    ed
    +1
    I just hope that when they get through obamacare no longer exists.
  • Frank 2012/06/10 21:37:01
    Frank
    +2
    On our way to Socialism, Ive been saying it for his entire term and if he gets another it will happen.
  • ed Frank 2012/06/10 22:59:57
    ed
    +1
    try telling that to the ones who think he is a God.
  • Sam DePecan 2012/06/10 20:57:20
    Sam DePecan
    +2
    Well, for sure, everyone is well aware that Nancy Pelosi stated; "Sign it first, then read it." . . . THAT's not really para-phrasing what that imbecile stated; but intstead that is practically verbatim word-for-word. So, apparently the criminals were always tryng to sneak around and keep it as low-profile as they possibly could. What they actually thought is that they would have full control of all of Washington and there would be nothing that any of us could do. Then, eventually enough time would lapse, and they could just walk out scott-free. That Election two years ago really proved their plan otherwise; to say the least. They just weren't expecting the people to do that. Now, we need to clean-up the Senate. The strict rules involving and revolving around the whole Healthcare idea is not something that most people like to be told that they have to adhere to. As long as we can just exercise our Rights, then we will remain safe from Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
  • Drue-AFCL Sam DeP... 2012/06/11 02:31:19
  • Sam DeP... Drue-AFCL 2012/06/11 18:16:50
    Sam DePecan
    +1
    Thank you . . ,. "Pass the Bill so that we can find out what's in it."
  • GeorgeAMartini 2012/06/10 20:38:08
    GeorgeAMartini
    +3
    Why are there any secrets at all? What ever happened to transparency and government of the people, by the people and for the people?
  • ed GeorgeA... 2012/06/10 23:01:28
    ed
    +1
    sorry but you won't find any transparency in this administration.
  • Sam DeP... GeorgeA... 2012/06/11 18:13:52
    Sam DePecan
    Aha! Very good . . . More & more people are indeed wondering about that. Maybe David Axelrod should blame CSPAN . . . ? ? ?
  • paul 2012/06/10 20:35:01 (edited)
    paul
    +2
    Private meeting with top pharmaceutical companies, Gee, that's not too cozy is it?
  • ed paul 2012/06/10 23:05:06
    ed
    +1
    I hope they liked the private meeting ,I'm sure they brought some samples oxy cotton
  • The Duke 2012/06/10 19:49:25
    The Duke
    +3
    No secret to me. I saw it for the massive socialist power grab and bureaucratic POS it is from day one.
  • Deb 2012/06/10 19:47:24
    Deb
    +4
    They need to disclose ALL of them! Enough of Obaaaaaaaaaamas smoke and mirror crap!
  • pops 2012/06/10 19:31:43
    pops
    +3
    Let the idiots that voted for him see what kind of POS they voted for.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/10 19:09:44
    Kane Fernau
    +3
    Nationalized medicine has to go.
  • Simmering Frog 2012/06/10 19:07:25 (edited)
    Simmering Frog
    +3
    The purpose of a secret is to prevent your enemy from learning information that they may use to defend themselves. In this case, the enemy is the American public.
  • Schläue~© 2012/06/10 19:01:34 (edited)
    Schläue~©
    +2
    Obama's economics advisers opposed Obamacare



    http://blog.oregonlive.com/my...

    Just a few excerpts from a great read, quotes from interviews with WH staff that show how 0bamacare was concocted and perhaps one of the biggest scams in American history .... outside of his usurping the office.

    ++++++++++++++++++++= ++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
    [The Obama administration had to stoop to the level of committing insurance fraud in the quest of selling Obamacare as budget neutral. Suskind reveals how torn young, idealistic, and well meaning lower level officials were in executing policies like this. Like Solyndra there is a paper trail here, and upon Republican take-over of the House, Fred Upton the new House Commerce Committee Chairman has uncovered emails that confirm Suskind’s account. This program did not make it to 2020; it did not even make it to 2012. With the change in control of the House came a change in control of government actuaries. OMB saw which way the winds were blowing as did Cathleen Sibelius. Last October CLASS was dismissed before it became too big a scandal, but another bigger Obamacare budgetary gimmick turned budgetary land mine is still out there waiting to go off.

    Suskind reveals that moment for Peter Orszag and so many of his peers that inevitably ca...

    Obama's economics advisers opposed Obamacare



    http://blog.oregonlive.com/my...

    Just a few excerpts from a great read, quotes from interviews with WH staff that show how 0bamacare was concocted and perhaps one of the biggest scams in American history .... outside of his usurping the office.

    ++++++++++++++++++++= ++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++
    [The Obama administration had to stoop to the level of committing insurance fraud in the quest of selling Obamacare as budget neutral. Suskind reveals how torn young, idealistic, and well meaning lower level officials were in executing policies like this. Like Solyndra there is a paper trail here, and upon Republican take-over of the House, Fred Upton the new House Commerce Committee Chairman has uncovered emails that confirm Suskind’s account. This program did not make it to 2020; it did not even make it to 2012. With the change in control of the House came a change in control of government actuaries. OMB saw which way the winds were blowing as did Cathleen Sibelius. Last October CLASS was dismissed before it became too big a scandal, but another bigger Obamacare budgetary gimmick turned budgetary land mine is still out there waiting to go off.

    Suskind reveals that moment for Peter Orszag and so many of his peers that inevitably came: reflection. What have we done? The economists were depressed, but the political advisers were unfazed; the thinking was to turn this bill’s vice into virtue. They fell back to the realization that they were destroying the existing healthcare system so as to set it up for an eventual crisis that will lead to greater reform. At the earliest this crisis will happen after Obama’s reelection so what’s not to love?

    No one was more disappointed in Obamacare than its intellectual father, James Weinstein of Dartmouth University. A pioneer in evidence-based medicine, Weinstein knew the limits of his own work and saw how the industry had turned his review boards into regulatory captured stakeholder advocates. Weinstein as an outsider, can only wonder how the Obama administration could make such a “stunning error.” Former White House officials told Suskind how this was no accident at all. This bill was written by the industry for the industry. Like pigs in trough thinking only about the present, industry stakeholders are pleased with their near-term prospects. Obama’s political advisers were happy to have the industry lobby to pass his bill. As the cost growth becomes worse than it was before, then heck we’ll take care of that crisis when it comes. In the mean-time Obamacare was “points on the board” as Rahm told the president.]
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  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/10 19:00:00 (edited)
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +2
    Judge opening door to OBAMACARE SECRETS? It needs to see the light of day to see why this is not what Obama promised !!!!!! Alot of things are in that many pages hidden for a reason !!!!!“In an attempt to circumvent the court’s order, defendant President Barack Obama’s supplemental memorandum on mootness effectively rebukes and thus ‘thumbs its nose’ at the court’s
  • TheTruth1313 2012/06/10 18:58:43
    TheTruth1313
    +5
    As I have said all along, the socialist piece-of-garbage policy needs to be repealed ASAP.
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/10 18:41:47
    jackolantyrn356
    +5
    But shall we really ever know considering the LIES of the MEDIA. Constructing such takes a while and of course the Stuff "NOT for our eyea only.............
  • wtw 2012/06/10 18:38:05
    wtw
    +4
    We need to know!
  • DeborahLakeHelen 2012/06/10 18:37:42
    DeborahLakeHelen
    +6
    I hope he's not the next one to wind up dead or missing for exposing Obama.

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