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Jim Cameron on people relating to the Terminator.

luke-jones 2012/04/03 20:56:16
"One of the 'shocks' of the film was that people related to the 'Terminator' so much.
And I think it's because there's an awful lot of pent - up rage and frustration and a lot of that frustration is because we're... you know, in a crowded urban society and job pressures and things like that and people don't - don't get to 'act out' these fantasies and we live in an age of weapons where you can't ...just 'punch' somebody without them pulling out a gun and 'shooting' you, you can't yell at somebody on the 'freeway' without them...you know, shooting you with an AK-47. So, there's a lot of - a lot of pent - up rage and hostillity and I think The Terminator was a 'release' for that.
I think that we're also reacting psychologically to this kind of 'dehuminization.'
Uh, we're programming ourselves to interact with 'strangers.'
And I think that that's why the kind of 'android' myth has become so popular, in recent years and - and in films, because it sort of 'answers' that question.
Or if 'nothing' else, it says "we have become 'so' dehumanized that a 'machine' could pass for human 'easily' in our society."
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  • Cat 2012/10/03 03:12:20
    Cat
    +1
    I think much of it comes from gaming using cyborg warriors as personal avatars.
    The Terminator fans relate to the character as their game avatar.
  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/10/02 19:47:15
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
    That's his own opinion, that he's throwing off onto everyone else. If someone took an unbiased poll on what they took out of "The Terminator," the results might be vastly different from his wild guess.
  • luke-jones Temlako... 2012/10/03 12:49:20
    luke-jones
    +1
    He's said people have said this and I believe him.
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/10/02 19:43:45
  • luke-jones CMackle... 2012/10/03 12:56:50
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/10/02 19:43:25
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    James Cameron is a socialist hypocrite who always protrays the rich or corporations as evil. Yet he is part of the same group he despises and uses his wealth and postion in the same way.

    Cameron needs to keep his leftist agenda out of American politics and spew his socialist crap to his fellow Canadians.
  • luke-jones CMackle... 2012/10/03 12:51:06
  • ✞Knight of Honor 2012/10/01 23:19:16 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +2
    I love the Terminator (It is arguably my favorite movie), but don't like James Cameron.

    Rather than admit that people like fun action movies, he believes that people like the movie because, "it's showing how inhuman American society is." The guy is so left wing compared to the original film maker that I wonder if this James Cameron wasn't replaced with someone else. After Avatar, I honestly wonder what happened.

    Change the "Paul is Dead Theory" into the Jim is Dead Theory.
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/01 23:21:35
    luke-jones
    Why not?
  • ✞Knight... luke-jones 2012/10/01 23:24:59
    ✞Knight of Honor
    You must have responded while I was editing my response to explain.
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/02 00:04:33
    luke-jones
    I couldn't've known that.
  • ✞Knight... luke-jones 2012/10/02 00:05:42
    ✞Knight of Honor
    No, it's alright man. I just thought it would be pointless to copy all of the stuff that I had edited in. I never claimed anything like that.
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/02 00:07:33
    luke-jones
    I see.
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/01 23:40:14
    luke-jones
    I like what he said here.
  • ✞Knight... luke-jones 2012/10/01 23:44:52
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +2
    It's frankly not accurate.


    Which do you think is more likely:

    1) People really liked being criticized for being inhuman.

    2) People like a fun creative action movie with Arnold Schwazenneger, Linda Hamilton, and Michael Biehn with strong special effects, good acting, an amazing plot, and unique music.
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/01 23:48:46
    luke-jones
    +1
    What makes Arnold a good villain is that he doesn't 'look' like one. And Jim said that people related to the character and I believe him.
  • ✞Knight... luke-jones 2012/10/01 23:55:33 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +2
    Agreed. Schwarzenneger made a great villain in The Terminator. Like I said, I love the movie and it's one of my all time favorites, but I don't love it, "because Cameron proved how inhuman Americans are." I love it because it is of the highest quality in all regards; I didn't even realize that his political criticism of America was in this movie.

    I honestly wonder if he came up with this, "American society is inhuman" theme after he made the movie (like Stan Lee's "the X-men were created to represent homosexuals" [later it actually was, but that wasn't his intent in 1963]). That isn't the meaning of the movie that I saw at all.

    When I watch The Terminator, I find it to be a philosophical analysis of what it means to be a human and humanity's struggle to survive the worst situations. I don't see, "American society is inhuman."
  • luke-jones ✞Knight... 2012/10/01 23:58:15
    luke-jones
    He has good points like being unable to punch someone without them shooting you.
  • Farnsworth 2012/10/01 20:08:59
    Farnsworth
    +2
    He has a point. but I think we are "dehumanized" by how cheaply we view life.....see abortion as an example and to some extent assisted suicide.
  • luke-jones Farnsworth 2012/10/01 22:23:00
    luke-jones
    +1
    Both that and what he said.
  • Sheila 2012/10/01 11:22:32
    Sheila
    +2
    What I liked about the movie was that he lost. One of the interesting lessons to me was you never know what is under the surface so to speak. "Evil" looks human, not like a monster.
  • luke-jones Sheila 2012/10/01 18:42:43
    luke-jones
    If he lost, the T-1000 wouldn't've melted.
  • Sheila luke-jones 2012/10/01 19:18:39
    Sheila
    +1
    But by that movie he had been made the good guy. So evil still lost.
  • luke-jones Sheila 2012/10/01 19:21:23
    luke-jones
    And the T-1000 would've won if he haden't shot him.
  • Sheila luke-jones 2012/10/01 19:28:33
    Sheila
    I am not sure what you are leading me toward.... I dont agree that most people fantasize about opening up on a crowd (even police, lol) with an AK.
  • luke-jones Sheila 2012/10/01 19:30:50
    luke-jones
    Neither do I but the Terminator 'did' destroy the T-1000 and no one else.
  • luke-jones Sheila 2012/10/01 22:23:43
    luke-jones
    Sorry, I was thinking of the other thing I brought up.
  • luke-jones Sheila 2012/10/01 22:24:40
    luke-jones
    Not always 'sinister,' to be 'exact.'
  • Red_Horse 2012/09/29 14:53:55
  • luke-jones Red_Horse 2012/10/01 18:43:00
    luke-jones
    But what do you think now?
  • Red_Horse luke-jones 2012/10/01 19:57:30
  • luke-jones Red_Horse 2012/10/01 22:25:06
    luke-jones
    Do you get what Jim said?
  • Red_Horse luke-jones 2012/10/01 23:04:58
  • luke-jones Red_Horse 2012/10/01 23:13:45
    luke-jones
    I'm glad to hear that.
  • ✞Knight... Red_Horse 2012/10/02 00:01:52 (edited)
    ✞Knight of Honor
    +1
    Likewise. For me, it's more about the human struggle to survive and what it means to be a human, not "American society is inhuman."

    I honestly think that the meaning of the movie has changed to him since he made it back in 1984. He had a huge political ideology change in 1985.
  • Red_Horse ✞Knight... 2012/10/02 03:33:27
  • luke-jones Red_Horse 2012/10/02 16:34:30
    luke-jones
    What's the N stand for?
  • Red_Horse luke-jones 2012/10/02 16:47:29

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