Jews and Muslims have always rejected as idolatry the sacred Christian dogma that Jesus was God’s son and they abhor the idea that a loving God would allow a horrific torture and sacrifice of His own child. Are they wrong?

by holyheretic Posted 2012/07/13 11:00:28

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		Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would never allow a horrific torture and sacrifice of His own child
		Jews and Muslims are wrong. Jesus was God’s son and a loving God did allow a horrific torture and sacrifice of His own child
		A Christian witnessing for Christ is no different than a Pagan witnessing for Atlas or Hercules.
		Latter Day Saints (Mormons) are the true Christians - SodaHead Jonathan
		The Jewish religion, like all others, is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions - Albert Einstein

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	Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would never allow a horrific torture and sacrifice of His own child	69 votes	58%
	Jews and Muslims are wrong. Jesus was God’s son and a loving God did allow a horrific torture and sacrifice of His own child	15 votes	13%
	A Christian witnessing for Christ is no different than a Pagan witnessing for Atlas or Hercules.	7 votes	6%
	Latter Day Saints (Mormons) are the true Christians - SodaHead Jonathan	2 votes	2%
	The Jewish religion, like all others, is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions - Albert Einstein	26 votes	22%

Like Muslims,
Mormons reject the idolatrous, bankrupt concept of the Trinity: will the
religion of the future be Islam or Mormonism?

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Swan Eshdeh 2012/07/31 19:48:57

Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would n...

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Jesus is god's messenger not god's son..god has no sons no wife ,no father,no mother,eternal and absolute ..the only one god
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MissTypist 2012/08/02 12:02:21

Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would n...

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"Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God's son and a loving God would never allow a horrific torture of his own child." I believe that, but everybody is entitled to have their own beliefs :)

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holyher... to MissTypist 2012/08/28 09:45:14
HBO 2012/08/02 04:55:18

A Christian witnessing for Christ is no different than a Pagan witnessing for...

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So I've been a Christian most of my life, I was married to a Muslim for many years, so I researched the religion so I knew what it was he believed, Many of the things I learned actually changed my way of thinking about some things. There were many "a-ha !" moments where something I read would make perfect sense. During that time I also prayed at times, tried to dress more modestly and fasted for Ramadan, which was a very spiritual experience each time.I saw what it was like to be part of a your average American Muslim family, and I am so grateful for that knowledge and experience. I feel like I am a better person for being beyond the rumors and propaganda and lies that a lot of people have about Muslims. However after I divorced I realized that I really did not have the self discipline to be a Muslim and eventually found the church I belong to today, which is the Untiy movement. I believe that Jesus is as much a son of God as all of us are. I believe Mary was a virgin when she concieved, because all God has to do is say "be" and it is. We call Jesus the way shower because he was able to connect with the divine Christ within himself to become the embodiment of who God wants us to be. I beleive that everyone has the right to choose the way they worship and that there is truth in...

So I've been a Christian most of my life, I was married to a Muslim for many years, so I researched the religion so I knew what it was he believed, Many of the things I learned actually changed my way of thinking about some things. There were many "a-ha !" moments where something I read would make perfect sense. During that time I also prayed at times, tried to dress more modestly and fasted for Ramadan, which was a very spiritual experience each time.I saw what it was like to be part of a your average American Muslim family, and I am so grateful for that knowledge and experience. I feel like I am a better person for being beyond the rumors and propaganda and lies that a lot of people have about Muslims. However after I divorced I realized that I really did not have the self discipline to be a Muslim and eventually found the church I belong to today, which is the Untiy movement. I believe that Jesus is as much a son of God as all of us are. I believe Mary was a virgin when she concieved, because all God has to do is say "be" and it is. We call Jesus the way shower because he was able to connect with the divine Christ within himself to become the embodiment of who God wants us to be. I beleive that everyone has the right to choose the way they worship and that there is truth in all religons. There are many paths you can take to God, they all lead to the same place. It's a very personal experience and if it helps you connect to God then draw inspiration from where you find it. We don't talk about evil or sin, we give no power to any of that. Unity is a unique family and we welcome anyone into our church, no matter what race, sexul orientation,religious affiliation...whatever. I don't know if anyone knows the exact truth, but this is my truth and I would never tell anyone else how they should act or believe or worship.
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holyher... to HBO 2012/08/28 09:46:15
Transquesta 2012/08/01 22:02:25

Jews and Muslims are wrong. Jesus was God’s son and a loving God did allow a...

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Ultimately, this issue boils down to what people CHOOSE to believe.

The three basic choices are these:

1) There's a God who loved His creation so much that He gave His only Son (or sacrificed a part of Himself) to save it;

2) A cruel, sadistic and vengeful God who gets off on blaming/torturing people for things they didn't do;

3) There is, or there is in all likelihood, no god.

Sure, there are variations on each of the three themes, but these are the basic choices which summarize all of the world's belief systems. I for one CHOOSE to believe #1 is true. Some (including fundamentalist Muslims, Jews and Christians) CHOOSE to believe #2 is true. Atheists/agnostics CHOOSE to believe #3 is true.

Just as you can tell a lot about a person by the kind of trash s/he takes to the curb, you can tell a lot about the character of a person who CHOOSES to believe either way.

The question then becomes with whom would you rather associate. With whom would you entrust your life or your family if something happened to you? Would you trust your life/your family with someone who believed in/worshiped a loving God? How about one who believed in/worshiped a sadistic monster? How about one who chose to believer there was no god at all?

Enter theme from final round of Jeopardy here. . .

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holyher... to Transqu... 2012/08/28 09:47:09
Red 2012/08/01 21:40:03 (edited)
holyher... to Red 2012/08/28 09:47:57
ziad 2012/08/01 21:33:08

Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would n...

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That Jesus is not the Son of God
God has nothing to show born as the Scriptures and the Qur'an that God created everything in the universe in which we live.

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holyher... to ziad 2012/08/28 09:48:47
Swan Eshdeh 2012/07/31 19:48:57

Jews and Muslims are right. Jesus was not God’s son and a loving God would n...

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Jesus is god's messenger not god's son..god has no sons no wife ,no father,no mother,eternal and absolute ..the only one god

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Transqu... to Swan Es... 2012/08/01 22:06:49

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About ONE thing the sons and Daughters of Abraham (Jews, Muslims and Christians) agree. There is ONLY ONE God.

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Swan Es... to Transqu... 2012/08/01 22:09:17

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yes.you are right

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HBO to Transqu... 2012/08/02 05:00:12

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And isn't that enough ? If we can all agree that there is one God, Presence,Spirit whatever we name it, then certainly we can agree to let each other worship in peace. Peace being the operative word here. I think we could all get along together in this world if we let each other be. If this church is not worried about what the other is doing...if this religion's followers respected the beliefs of another religions followers. It seems ironic that some who represent a certain religion, would feel it necessary to force another people to accept it.

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Transqu... to HBO 2012/08/02 05:26:57

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The choir cheers (meaning I agree with every word you just said)!

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holyher... to Swan Es... 2012/08/28 09:49:24
Swan Es... to holyher... 2012/08/28 19:52:18 (edited)

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ok .
i was not here (in sodahead) for more than 5 days did you notice ? hahaha

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holyher... to Swan Es... 2012/08/29 06:07:48
Swan Es... to holyher... 2012/08/29 17:49:45

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mmm..ok.
how much time does it take to download such photos holy ?

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holyher... to Swan Es... 2012/08/30 09:12:16
Swan Es... to holyher... 2012/08/30 11:28:25

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because it seems a very hard "mission" .god help you !!!!!!!!!!
take care !!!

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holyher... to Swan Es... 2012/08/30 11:49:27
Swan Es... to holyher... 2012/08/30 12:34:51

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yes . god help you !!

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holyher... to Swan Es... 2012/08/31 01:33:23
holyher... to holyher... 2012/08/31 01:33:57
Swan Es... to holyher... 2012/08/31 11:09:01

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ok.

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RevBH 2012/07/31 00:19:13

A Christian witnessing for Christ is no different than a Pagan witnessing for...

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What the *&$ do we know?

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holyher... to RevBH 2012/07/31 12:48:38
HBO to holyher... 2012/08/28 09:38:23

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God gave us free will and it's up to us to use it wisely. He doesn't have to "allow"people to do anything...they're saying theses things on their own.

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holyher... to HBO 2012/08/31 01:34:54 (edited)
holyher... to holyher... 2012/08/31 01:35:23
Marianne 2012/07/16 10:30:31

Jews and Muslims are wrong. Jesus was God’s son and a loving God did allow a...

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I rather prefer this version. Jesus taught us respect for each other, solidarity and non-violence.

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holyher... to Marianne 2012/07/16 13:30:24
Marianne to holyher... 2012/07/16 13:49:59

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You're welcome.

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holyher... to Marianne 2012/07/30 06:28:21
Jacqui 2012/07/16 01:57:13

The Jewish religion, like all others, is an incarnation of the most childish ...

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I don't know & I don't care.

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holyher... to Jacqui 2012/07/16 13:25:35
Jacqui to holyher... 2012/07/17 01:12:12 (edited)

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I don't care because the Jews rejected their own Masiah, & I don't care about them. I also don't we should support Israel because of this. We are suppose to be a Christian nation.

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holyher... to Jacqui 2012/07/30 06:29:31
☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/07/15 23:58:10

Jews and Muslims are wrong. Jesus was God’s son and a loving God did allow a...

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.

Us a plurality.

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