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Jeb Bush says there would be no place for Reagan in the extreme GOP of today. Is he right?

Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/06/12 12:27:06
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"Ronald Reagan would have, based on his record of finding accommodation,
finding some degree of common ground, as would my dad — they would have
a hard time if you define the Republican party — and I don’t — as
having an orthodoxy that doesn’t allow for disagreement, doesn’t allow
for finding some common ground," Bush said, adding that he views the
hyper-partisan moment as "temporary."

Ronald Reagan

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  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/12 13:14:56
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Rebel Yell
    +4
    Of course he is right. It is obvious what is wrong with today's GOP. Listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Richard Steele and the message couldn't be more confusing about party stance and purpose. It's nothing more than angry and redundant rhetoric.

    Republicans of yesteryear were about increased revenue, a strong military, modest conservation and adopted a laissez fare approach towards business to generalize the party's doctrine .

    Look at today's Republicans. It's all about hate and negativity. TEA Partiers don't care about the truth. They simply want to see Obama fail. They don't really care about his birthplace or his youth; they hate the fact that he exists at all.

    They think the poor are filthy, lazy moochers who don't deserve any place in society.
    And unions - teachers, cops and firefighters , those losers pick rich men's pockets as their goal and are known as " thugs". Their propaganda machine, FOX , thrives on the fuel of lies and innuendo. They love to open up Pandora's Box and watch the country collapse in confusion. That is their definition of successs.

    The Golden Rule they live by is for fools. "Whoever has the Gold, he makes the Rules." We just saw Kock Bros get Walker back into their fold.

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  • Contarded Chickenhawk Con S... 2012/06/12 15:28:12
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +1
    Don't you just love how SH conservatives are proving themselves? They eat their own afterbirth if they could.

    Their so focused on imposing their conservative agenda that they forgotten that sometimes other conservatives disagree and also have the right to speak about it.

    But if you go against the agenda, then you're not being a good conservative(lemming).
  • Lady Wh... Contard... 2012/06/12 18:46:37
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    agreed
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2012/06/12 15:09:18
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +2
    Reagan would be viewed as a liberal by Republicans today
  • Christy 2012/06/12 15:07:21
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Christy
    +2
    Didn't expect to be able to click that one when I read the headline, but it's true. If Reagan were alive and politically active today, he would be considered a RINO and be run out of the party.
  • Superman 2012/06/12 15:06:06
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Superman
    +3
    Absolutely right. I've been saying this all along. Any suggestion of finding common ground is smacked down. And theres such a hunt into peoples pasts that the fact he was Governor of a liberal state and at one point even a Democrat would have him reviled as a RINO by the hyper-partisan fringe.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2012/06/12 15:05:05
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    The most vocal, and often most influential, Republicans today would gladly bring back slavery - or at least sweatshops.
  • taitaFalcon23 2012/06/12 14:33:32
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    taitaFalcon23
    +2
    Jeb Bush has nothing to lose now. It only makes sense that he tell his version of the truth. The fact is, this country couldn't have a moderate that uses commonsense any more than it could use a hardcore lefty. I sense a tide shifting here - the middle class is tired of empty promises of the ultra-wealthy saying that if we continue to make them wealthier - they'll share. Evidently not, even their top candidate for the GOP ticket actively chooses not 'share'. People are good at determining that someone is pissing on their leg but telling them its raining.

    Instead the candidate with the best message of how they're going to seek real solutions to real problems is who people are going to listen to. Romney has no such message. His message is ' on day one' to parents with young adult kids out of work , is to tell them his mission is to do away with one of their safety nets and that he'll make it easier for the 1% to keep hoarding their money while the 99ers continue to watch their economic power erode.

    We're way past the question of 'why can't johnny find a job' - to, what do we do 'til he does?. Romney and the GOP's plan is to continue the beatings until morale improves. This will backfire on a Congress with a reputation of being bought and owned lock, stock and barrel by s...

    Jeb Bush has nothing to lose now. It only makes sense that he tell his version of the truth. The fact is, this country couldn't have a moderate that uses commonsense any more than it could use a hardcore lefty. I sense a tide shifting here - the middle class is tired of empty promises of the ultra-wealthy saying that if we continue to make them wealthier - they'll share. Evidently not, even their top candidate for the GOP ticket actively chooses not 'share'. People are good at determining that someone is pissing on their leg but telling them its raining.

    Instead the candidate with the best message of how they're going to seek real solutions to real problems is who people are going to listen to. Romney has no such message. His message is ' on day one' to parents with young adult kids out of work , is to tell them his mission is to do away with one of their safety nets and that he'll make it easier for the 1% to keep hoarding their money while the 99ers continue to watch their economic power erode.

    We're way past the question of 'why can't johnny find a job' - to, what do we do 'til he does?. Romney and the GOP's plan is to continue the beatings until morale improves. This will backfire on a Congress with a reputation of being bought and owned lock, stock and barrel by silent power brokers too ashamed to let you know who they even are - thanks to SCOTUS's ruling on Citizens United. What are they afraid of with their billions?

    Romney's only message is 'I'm not Obama' and I'm not going to help the middle class find jobs; I'm going to double down on making myself and my fellow millionaires wealthier - please vote for me!'... His message is; 'salt on those wounds have a 'cleansing affect..' Good luck Mittens; be sure to let us know how that elevator is workin' in your new mansion
    (more)
  • Lady Wh... taitaFa... 2012/06/12 18:48:00
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    "the middle class is tired of empty promises of the ultra-wealthy saying that if we continue to make them wealthier - they'll share...."

    AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!!!
  • taitaFa... Lady Wh... 2012/06/12 21:47:40
    taitaFalcon23
    the politics are going to evolve... the loony left have no more credibility than the angry 'no solutions' right
  • Space Invader 2012/06/12 13:45:24
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    Space Invader
    +1
    This is one Bush that needs to be trimmed....he always looks like he's afraid someone will correct him...
  • JP 2012/06/12 13:29:04
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    JP
    +1
    I will never vote for another Bush, Clinton and certainly no Obama. Time for some fresh blood lines in our political arena.

    Tea Party Patriots from Florida, show this guy the door!
  • Tully 2012/06/12 13:27:05
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    Tully
    +1
    During the 80's Jeb Bush was in South America doing coke off of whores's asses. He knows nothing of Regan and policies of the time, other than what his daddy tells him.

    Can you tell I'm not a fan of this guy? As a Florida resident who was in school when this d-bag was gov, we saw the school system sink to nearly Arkansas levels. He squandered Federal grants and is one of the reasons we now have to deal with crap leg. like No Child Left Behind.
  • Assassi... Tully 2012/06/12 13:31:54
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    You you have some evidence of that allegation?
  • Tully Assassi... 2012/06/12 13:40:56
    Tully
    That he was a bad gov? Plenty, the Florida school system.
    Coke and whores in South America? Not directly. A lot of reporters knew the stories, but with respect for the Gov's office, decided not to report. One of the TV guys I work with was doing Coke with him in Carcacas, Ven in the early 80's. He said Jeb did more coke than anybody he's ever met in his life.
  • Assassi... Tully 2012/06/12 13:47:01
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    No. I was referring to the snorting cocaine off whores asses comment.

    I don't even like Bush, but I try not to make unsubstantiated false claims that accuse people of lawbreaking, and immorality unless I have actual proof.

    Thats just me though.
  • Tully Assassi... 2012/06/12 14:06:18
    Tully
    Just because its not published doesn't mean its not true.

    Reporters down here are part of the "good ol' boy" network and didn't like the ivy league prince coming down and elbowing his way into the group. Enough money will keep any of them from spilling publicly.
  • Assassi... Tully 2012/06/12 14:42:31
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +2
    Uh huh. Thats how good people get smeared. Rumors and innuendo with zero facts.
  • Tully Assassi... 2012/06/12 14:45:58
    Tully
    I trust the guy. Been working with him for years. He's been reporting for a long time. Besides, who cares? The guy partied thru the 80s. There's not many men his age who didn't.
  • Assassi... Tully 2012/06/12 14:47:11
    Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru
    +1
    UH HUH... You trust a guy, who "says" its true, and you are a random internet person to me. You know a guy who knows a guy, and you are putting it out as fact.

    B.S.
  • apachehellfire65 2012/06/12 13:18:31
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    apachehellfire65
    +2
    not exactly. in his time he was a stanch conservative. and now would be leaning more toward a moderate. but still well within the GOP. jeb on the other hand is a progressive republican and at times barely fits into the GOP HIMSELF. now on the opposite side of that coin JFK is a different story.
  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/12 13:14:56
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Rebel Yell
    +4
    Of course he is right. It is obvious what is wrong with today's GOP. Listen to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Richard Steele and the message couldn't be more confusing about party stance and purpose. It's nothing more than angry and redundant rhetoric.

    Republicans of yesteryear were about increased revenue, a strong military, modest conservation and adopted a laissez fare approach towards business to generalize the party's doctrine .

    Look at today's Republicans. It's all about hate and negativity. TEA Partiers don't care about the truth. They simply want to see Obama fail. They don't really care about his birthplace or his youth; they hate the fact that he exists at all.

    They think the poor are filthy, lazy moochers who don't deserve any place in society.
    And unions - teachers, cops and firefighters , those losers pick rich men's pockets as their goal and are known as " thugs". Their propaganda machine, FOX , thrives on the fuel of lies and innuendo. They love to open up Pandora's Box and watch the country collapse in confusion. That is their definition of successs.

    The Golden Rule they live by is for fools. "Whoever has the Gold, he makes the Rules." We just saw Kock Bros get Walker back into their fold.
  • Lady Wh... Rebel Yell 2012/06/12 18:49:22
    Lady Whitewolf
    SO well said.... wish I could rave ya more!
  • Sissy 2012/06/12 13:04:13
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    Sissy
    +2
    For all of Reagan's foibles, (beginning the wide divide between the classes, bringing in the "moral majority", raising the debt ceiling (gulp) 17 times, three recessions, etc), he is still touted by the Right as the "greatest president ever" when in fact he would not have gotten his foot in the door in today's republican party. He actually believed in talking to the opposition, our international foes and raising taxes, even if it was on the middle class.
  • Z 2012/06/12 13:03:48
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    Z
    +1
    It isn't that extreme of a GOP, just of the social conservatives. Reagan was just as strong on the economy, and supported amnesty, something libertarians support. Most liberals assume that the GOP is a single, monolithic group, but we aren't. There are libertarians (Economic conservatives, unique on monetary policy, liberal on foreign policy, mixed on social issues), Social conservatives, economic conservatives, paleo-conservatives, "RHINO's" Theocrats (the smallest group), Crunchy conservatives, moderates, Eco-conservatives, Neoconservatives (foreign policy conservatives) and a few other small groups. The reason Reagan did so well is because, without really being that conservative, he united all of us together against two threats, big government and Soviet Communism. He would likely do just as well now. Most people have forgotten the incredibly attacks Reagan endured by his own side for not being conservative enough.

    Ronald Reagan
  • beach bum 2012/06/12 12:51:30
    Yep Jeb Bush is right.
    beach bum
  • Waldorf 2012/06/12 12:46:25
    No, Jeb Bush is wrong.
    Waldorf
    +2
    Yes well, "read my lips" didn't work so well. In the context of curtailing taxing and spending, it is time for the Democrats to get a little parenting and resistance from more responsible Republicans.
  • Lady Wh... Waldorf 2012/06/12 13:09:43
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    "it is time for the Democrats to get a little parenting and resistance from more responsible Republicans..."

    **SNERK** **LAUGH** **GIGGLE** **spew tea**

    *finally stops laughing*

    Don't you think it should be: " it's time for the REPUBLICANS to get a little paernting and resistance from the more responsible DEMOCRATS?"
  • Waldorf Lady Wh... 2012/06/12 13:20:21
    Waldorf
    What's in your tea?
  • Lady Wh... Waldorf 2012/06/12 18:45:44
    Lady Whitewolf
    Nothing, actually.... it's just that your statement was so ASININE, I had to laugh. It's the republicans acting like SPOILED BRATS when they don't get what they want!

    Refer to the Rolling Stones song:
    "You can't always get what you want..."
  • Waldorf Lady Wh... 2012/06/12 21:02:16 (edited)
    Waldorf
    If you think so little of my statements, I guess that means you're on The Left, huh. How's that workin' for ya?
  • Lady Wh... Waldorf 2012/06/12 22:18:59
    Lady Whitewolf
    On human rights I'm liberal
    On Fiscal / money matters I'm conservative...

    am I moderate?
  • Waldorf Lady Wh... 2012/06/12 22:39:50
    Waldorf
    +1
    If that's the word for people caught between two parties? I'm in some grey areas too.
  • Lady Wh... Waldorf 2012/06/13 09:28:01
    Lady Whitewolf
    **nods head** understood

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