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It's Time For A Third Political Party... Whether Republicans, Democrats and Independents Want It Or Not!!

chaoskitty123 2010/11/17 09:26:24
I think a third party with a Moderate ideological base should...
I think it's sad we even need a third political party because the two party system is failing us and dividing us against one another
The two party system is the way to go, left vs right forever!
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Ok, here's a question for you... will we ever have a third large political party?

The answer to this is that it is not very likely because those who might form such a party are too self centered on their careers. Another barrier is ego. There are certainly a great number of micro parties which you've probably never heard of before and the reason for that is that these micro parties tend to be ego trips for their founders and members. Independents rarely win election even on the local state levels. To be a member of an Independent Party is like a vanity plate claiming you're not one of the two big parties causing all the problems.

Likewise, to be part of the two party system now entails being part of two opposing forces completely on opposite sides more like enemies... and that's because this is what they are. Each side are controlled by extremists, political influence peddlers who have as much power over the two party system as lobbyists... and are even more responsible for what's wrong in this country than the lobbyists.

How can I say this? Simple... if one side has a group representing an issue, the other side has a group representing the other side of the issue. The reason for this is that most special interest groups form not from a desire to resolve a problem... but to establish influence over political leaders and they choose whichever side that might benefit them most, the side which reaches out for their support more than the other.

While these movements might start off benevolent, the influence they gain with political leaders changes even those who truly believe in the issue and want resolution. However, most succumb to the power and the wealth that can be generated from these special interest groups. At this point, we develop career oriented special interests who become exploiters and manipulators to prolong their power as movers and shakers within politics. In exchange for influence over political leaders, they must deliver voters which is where these groups become pushed further and further until they move beyond the fringe to the extreme left or right.

As I often tell people, we are not divided by our common beliefs... but by our uncommon fears.

The meaning behind this is that the vast majority of Americans share common beliefs which puts most of us in the center... not the left nor the right but in the center. However, each of the two majority parties are defined by their special interests and their extremes while Moderates, by their very nature, have no real special interests because they are moderate in their views and cannot establish extremist groups because they simply aren't extremists in their views. Moderates are problem solvers who work between the parties and various ideologies trying to reach a consortium where common objectives and views can be appealed to moreso than sucking up to the fringe and extremists. This is very difficult and Moderate leaders tend to be among the most intelligent and effective leaders in any part of the country. The problem, again, is the lack of special interest support to generate votes so that Moderates have to sell their souls moreso to one side or the other appealing to various special interests when their own views may in fact not be as strong in support for these special interests as they claim. This doesn't make them bad leaders and they tend to be more effective... but once these special interests become more aware that these Moderates also support the opposing views to some degree, extremists can make great use of this to defeat their Moderate opponents in elections with those voting for the extremists often paying a heavy price as often those they elect have little or no leadership ability.

Over the past two years, the special interests supporting the Democrats
did the greatest damage to the Democrats splitting the party against
itself, attacking the political right with so much blame and
condemnation that the Republican voting base began turning on the
Republican Party leaders who worked with Democrats (as the Tea Party
proved) so the Republican leadership had to remain united... and
essentially, the Democratic Party self destructed. The Democratic Party
also helped the Bush Administration as too many of them supported the
Republicans including the current President Barack Hussein Obama who
never voted against Bush and many are well aware that he's continued
many of Bush's policies. Thus, it's not difficult to understand where after twelve years or so, we vote the Democrats into power and they last only about two years before we vote the Republicans and rightwingers back into power. The very elements which Democrats hold dear to them also tend to be as opposed to one another as the political right and being the minority party is where they excel at because they need a Republican majority to unite their various groups together overcoming their own individual differences... when they become the majority, then these groups expect results and they turn against one another or the extremists take control if those results don't materialize.

The Answer

Ok, if we will not have a third political party form against the Republicans and the Democrats, I have a third proposal... that "We The People" take matters into our own hands and put our leaders where they truly should be placed.

All leftwing political leaders should be placed with the Democratic Party. Lets face facts, we all think of the Democratic Party as belonging to the political left and one of the biggest problems over the past two years for Democrats is that half their political party are rightwing Democrats. Thus, rather than a strength, this split the Democrats against one another as the extreme left went after everyone in the political right including their fellow Democrats.

All rightwing political leaders should be placed within the Republican Party. Let's face facts, we all think of the Republican Party as belonging to the political right and one of the biggest problems over the past two years is that the political left went after the political right and most Republicans are rightwingers. RINO's are not allowed easily within the Republican Party and if the political left act's arrogant or self conceited, they will often galvanize the entire Republican Party against them. The problem is that this often creates gridlock.

All Independent political leaders are essentially spoilers as they rarely win elections but can pull enough voters from one side or the other to affect the outcome of the two party system. Within each of the two majority parties, there are countless micro groups no different than the micro parties themselves. But within the Republican and Democratic Parties, these various groups can get the financial and political backing they need to be taken seriously and win elections. There's no reason the Independents couldn't unite into a third majority party except for ego as each micro party is as self centered as the majority parties... thus, a waste of a vote in the vast majority of the cases when if they united, they could generate the same wealth and power of the other two parties.

The answer here is creating a list of rightwing, leftwing and central leaders.

If you have a Conservative Democrat, list them as a Rightwinger aligning them with Republicans. If you have a Liberal Republican, list them as a Leftwinger aligning them with Democrats. Independents would likewise be divided aligning them as Rightwing or Leftwing.

Moderates would be listed as Center regardless of what political party they belong to and it's the Moderates we would center on giving them support as if they were a third political party... and new special interest groups representing a centrist view to resolve problems rather than exploiting them opposing both sides to give those who want answers, and an end to these endless battles, combating special interests exploiting our fears of what the extremists in the opposition will do if you don't support us against them.

Only through the Moderates will the center ever find a voice.

And what would we call this movement? Something like the Free American Movement or simply the Independent American Party with an American Eagle as it's symbol.

Many of you want a third majority political party but we all know it's never going to happen. Many who want a third political party get a bit confused so they want another leftwing or rightwing party... this would accomplish nothing except having more conflict within these political groups achieving nothing. A third party is needed and if we cannot create one literally... then we should focus on doing it figuratively.

If we created a third political party with Moderates as a foundation ideologically... who would you support as part of this group? What issues would you like them to address in a different way than the political right or political left which would oppose both sides with the goal being to resolve the issue to the satisfaction of most Americans across political boundaries?

What would you want in a third political party... and mind you, we do not need or want more leftwingers or rightwingers so think about where you believe the Moderate or Mainstream majority on each side would wish to be if they could create a party representing the body of the nation instead of it's wings. A body can survive without wings... wings cannot survive without a body.







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  • BrianLNichols 2010/11/17 17:47:15
    The two party system is the way to go, left vs right forever!
    BrianLNichols
  • RavenzDeath 2010/11/17 13:39:15
    My view
    RavenzDeath
    my view cut out the middle man and the two pary system since neather of them no one the other is doing. come on I mean this people don't know there butt's from a whole in the ground but quick to tell us what to do but they don't know what to do themselves. I call that blind leading the blind honostly. This groups hurt the amircan family's and they hurt the united states in all. We should learn to make our own choice's with out this fool's or a third party if we can run this country ourselves then something is wrong with us as a whole.
  • jackolantyrn356 2010/11/17 13:03:23
    My view
    jackolantyrn356
    I think we need a viral party of a definitely Conservative nature unlike the Libertarian Party which is sort of neither here nor there.
    America needs a replacement for the Democrat Party which has marginalized itself to the Communist Party and makes a better partner to them than to us. who used to elect them. They've never been such a good party in the 290thCentury in the first place. The inventers of "Jim Crow etc is not such a good idea for America.
  • BlackREBEL$OULJA 2010/11/17 11:37:53
    I think it's sad we even need a third political party because the two party s...
    BlackREBEL$OULJA
  • Lady Whitewolf 2010/11/17 10:42:38
    I think a third party with a Moderate ideological base should...
    Lady Whitewolf
    +1
    I think a third party would be a grand idea.
  • TD Lady Wh... 2010/11/17 14:16:14
    TD
    i think the tea party should be the new 3rd party.
  • Radlad 2010/11/17 10:35:47
    My view
    Radlad
    I sometimes think a third party is the way to go. However it would cause more problems. Cause there really is only two ways to go. That's left or right conservative or liberal and that is it. The only thing a third party will do is weaken either the left or right. If a number of people believe the present democrat party isn't socialist enough they break off form a new party and they weaken the democrat party and the party they started isn't strong enough to defeat the right. The same is true the other way too. We saw that back in 1992. ross parot don't believe I spelled his name correctly. Thanks to his running clinton became president. So If you are a conservative or liberal and you get your third party whatever you wanna call it. All you'll do is help the other side win.......................
  • chaoski... Radlad 2010/11/17 12:16:04
    chaoskitty123
    The Moderates are a third option who side with left or right simply because they are Moderate in their behavior meaning they have no special interest groups. They then work across party lines and are generally the ones who are behind our most effective legislation.

    You're thinking right vs left and if you check out the micro parties, most of them are rightwing and they still vote for rightwing Democrats and Republicans rather than their own micro parties because as I explained, they're just vanity plates.

    But we know there's more than right and left because Moderates are neither right nor left even if they might lean one way or the other. Ross Perots Reform party wasn't a Moderate Party as it reached out recruiting Conservative and Liberal leaders trying to bridge the gap but nonetheless, they remained Conservative and Liberal. This is why I say it cannot be leftwing or rightwing in orientation and being both is no different than having one party representing both sides which ironically is how the current two parties came into being as they were ironically a single party called the Democratic Republican Party.

    Question Radlad...

    Great Britain has three parties and right now they have a coalition government between Conservatives and Liberals. Now examine the Democratic Party as wit...





    The Moderates are a third option who side with left or right simply because they are Moderate in their behavior meaning they have no special interest groups. They then work across party lines and are generally the ones who are behind our most effective legislation.

    You're thinking right vs left and if you check out the micro parties, most of them are rightwing and they still vote for rightwing Democrats and Republicans rather than their own micro parties because as I explained, they're just vanity plates.

    But we know there's more than right and left because Moderates are neither right nor left even if they might lean one way or the other. Ross Perots Reform party wasn't a Moderate Party as it reached out recruiting Conservative and Liberal leaders trying to bridge the gap but nonetheless, they remained Conservative and Liberal. This is why I say it cannot be leftwing or rightwing in orientation and being both is no different than having one party representing both sides which ironically is how the current two parties came into being as they were ironically a single party called the Democratic Republican Party.

    Question Radlad...

    Great Britain has three parties and right now they have a coalition government between Conservatives and Liberals. Now examine the Democratic Party as within it they have Liberals and Conservatives. While Conservative Democrats and Conservative Republicans do have differences explaining why they are in different parties, the fact they do exist together totally disputes your point of view as does the coalition government in Britain.

    However, the secret of the Republicans success in coming back to power is that the Liberals thought when the Democratic Party came to power that they came to power and began attacking Republicans and even Conservative Democrats... because the Liberals believe like Republicans do that the entire Democratic Party is leftwing. In essence, they self destructed from within but they're still together in one party. But the Moderates aren't represented and if we drew up a list of rightwing and leftwing leaders ignoring their party affiliation but focusing on their political views, we could then create a third group listing the Moderates separate and apart so we would not need a third political party literally as we would be creating that third political party figuratively by building a foundation through which they could promote their common issues, objectives and achievements. this in turn could allow Moderates to speak in one voice to promote their agenda's, build support for resolving issues and ultimately... it could generate the support needed where Moderates could begin winning elections as part of a third party.

    So the question here doesn't just address creating a third party in a traditional way... but taking matters into our own hands if necessary labeling a distinctive right, a distinctive left and a distinctive center to educate Americans about where our leaders really stand. Break them down further by distinction where Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Neocons, Conservatives and so forth are clearly set along with a better understanding of what this means.

    You actually can create a third political party in a figurative sense if they refuse to create a third party in a literal sense.
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  • Radlad chaoski... 2010/11/18 02:40:10
    Radlad
    I don't believe we're on the same page...............

    Can you name a conservative democrat? If there are moderate democrats, I don't see them either. For the most part they all voted down party lines. True a few did remain true to their constituents. I would say that the main problem with the both the dems and GOP is that the powers that be in both parties is that the party comes first and the GOP rulers are threaten by the tea party types......

    Who would be a good choice for president of your type or party? If you have a viable party there will be special interest. Who ever would be your ideal president here's the problem. He or she has no support in either house. If your ideal person is president follows the constitution and believes it to be the law of the land. Well he'd be a conservative. If he considers the constitution to be in the way and an obstacle now there's a liberal..........

    In truth there are no true conservatives. If ya' don't vote for subsidies for farmers and everything else you'll be voted outta office. Let's say your ideal guy is president. One would think that a middle of the road president would get all kinds of things through and moving along. Because the moderates of both the repugnantcans and dimocraps would get behind such legislation with litt...
    I don't believe we're on the same page...............

    Can you name a conservative democrat? If there are moderate democrats, I don't see them either. For the most part they all voted down party lines. True a few did remain true to their constituents. I would say that the main problem with the both the dems and GOP is that the powers that be in both parties is that the party comes first and the GOP rulers are threaten by the tea party types......

    Who would be a good choice for president of your type or party? If you have a viable party there will be special interest. Who ever would be your ideal president here's the problem. He or she has no support in either house. If your ideal person is president follows the constitution and believes it to be the law of the land. Well he'd be a conservative. If he considers the constitution to be in the way and an obstacle now there's a liberal..........

    In truth there are no true conservatives. If ya' don't vote for subsidies for farmers and everything else you'll be voted outta office. Let's say your ideal guy is president. One would think that a middle of the road president would get all kinds of things through and moving along. Because the moderates of both the repugnantcans and dimocraps would get behind such legislation with little problem. The wayout left has control of the democrats and their pawns will vote the way their told. The GOP's problem is there is too many liberals in it. So even if they have the numbers they rarely have the votes. My viewpoint is this We have the constitution. That's baseline. Or "0" the middle if you will. I consider the constitution to be the right. There is only one way to turn from it and that's left. Both political parties are without question left of it. 2/3's of all government spending is not supported by the constitution. Like I said repugnantcans vote for it all the time cause to vote against it they wouldn't be in office long. Even if your perfect scenario with a moderate party controlling both houses and the president. The party in it will divide into two or turn right or left. Conservative and liberal. There's no avoiding it. I'd agree with you it'd be great if it could be avoided. Cause by my view they'd be constitutional conservative. If you stray from the constitutional now we're heading left towards liberalism............
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  • Wolf 2010/11/17 10:19:30
    I think a third party with a Moderate ideological base should...
    Wolf
    +1
    The two party system today is incapable of governing and the corruption has reached a scale that only the mafia would be tolerant of. It is clear the problem of resizing and restructuring the massive and bloated public sector operations need a new party or outsiders because the fraud is being orchestrated by the politicians in power for their own benefits.
  • Cupe Doll 2010/11/17 09:55:44
    I think a third party with a Moderate ideological base should...
    Cupe Doll
    +2
    If a hypothetical third party would be for people and against ideology? Like not just when it first started out? That would be great. But people fall for ideologies too easily -- and politicians (ab)use ideologies to the detriment of the people.

    More people would have to embrace positive ideals -- and learn how to reject destructive ideologies. Fight evil -- ridicule ideology!
  • Edward 2010/11/17 09:54:59
    I think it's sad we even need a third political party because the two party s...
    Edward
    +2
    I think it is time because I don't see the two we have has any clue or idea of how to do their job and that we are their boss.
  • chaoski... Edward 2010/11/17 11:34:40
    chaoskitty123
    +2
    In a Republican form of government, we aren't their boss and that's the problem as the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Unions established our federal government as a Democracy... but when it was torn up and the new Constitution created, our government became a Republic. The reason for this is that the Federalists attempts to get Washington to become king failed and thus, it denied them the titles of aristocracy they desired as lords and ladies. A Republican form of government provides all the power of an aristocracy without the titles as essentially it is a council of chiefs where each member has a mandate which means they are free to represent the people, special interests or their own personal self interests... it's a system of rule where the leaders are limited only by the fact each chief has to work together because each is equal to the other. There is no accountability which is why in republics while you have the power to vote, eventually assassination becomes the way to remove certain leaders and when they cannot effectively lead... they elect a supreme chief or a supreme chief comes to power to make them work together and thus, we have a dictatorship.

    In every republic, you also have the same issues with lobbyists and leaders who buy their way to power who have ...
    In a Republican form of government, we aren't their boss and that's the problem as the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Unions established our federal government as a Democracy... but when it was torn up and the new Constitution created, our government became a Republic. The reason for this is that the Federalists attempts to get Washington to become king failed and thus, it denied them the titles of aristocracy they desired as lords and ladies. A Republican form of government provides all the power of an aristocracy without the titles as essentially it is a council of chiefs where each member has a mandate which means they are free to represent the people, special interests or their own personal self interests... it's a system of rule where the leaders are limited only by the fact each chief has to work together because each is equal to the other. There is no accountability which is why in republics while you have the power to vote, eventually assassination becomes the way to remove certain leaders and when they cannot effectively lead... they elect a supreme chief or a supreme chief comes to power to make them work together and thus, we have a dictatorship.

    In every republic, you also have the same issues with lobbyists and leaders who buy their way to power who have no leadership ability. Voters may have the power to vote, but they won't vote for anyone who doesn't tell them what they want to hear... and snake oil salesmen are good at telling us what we want to hear but have no integrity or substance of character which every political leader should possess. The Moderates have more integrity but they are at a disadvantage because they don't have special interest groups and the money they get comes only because they align with Republicans or Democrats... but if we could find a way to establish a third party where their views prevail, then we might see progress resolving issues instead of prolonging them.
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  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2010/11/17 09:38:44
    My view
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    The current two party system is highly divisive, and a third party may make it necessary to form coalitions in order to get legislation passed (as is common in Europe). I would either stay with two parties, or eliminate parties altogether. What really matters is the ideology and competence of the candidate.
  • chaoski... STU~PWC... 2010/11/17 11:06:55
    chaoskitty123
    +1
    Very true Stu but we cannot eliminate the parties. You know I support the politician rather than the party they belong to but the system itself plys on our fears to divide us against one another. I use abortion as an example because it's the easiest to illustrate this point. Extremists in the Pro Choice movement point to extremists in the Pro Life movement who want to do away with abortion completely while extremists in the Pro Life movement point to extremists in the Pro Choice movement who want abortion to be as common as pulling a tooth... and the extremists in both movements are correct about the oppositions objectives. The odd thing is that if you speak to people in both sides, you find that the majority on both sides actually share the same beliefs as most Pro Lifers do support abortion for reasons of necessity and most Pro Choicers only support abortion for reasons of necessity as well. Most Pro Choicers do not support abortion for birth control and know that extremist Pro Choicers support abortion on demand which inherently means for any reason... including birth control. Likewise, Most Pro Lifers do not support denying abortion to women whose lives are in danger or who were raped but they know that extremist Pro Lifers support abolishing abortion for any reason even i...















    Very true Stu but we cannot eliminate the parties. You know I support the politician rather than the party they belong to but the system itself plys on our fears to divide us against one another. I use abortion as an example because it's the easiest to illustrate this point. Extremists in the Pro Choice movement point to extremists in the Pro Life movement who want to do away with abortion completely while extremists in the Pro Life movement point to extremists in the Pro Choice movement who want abortion to be as common as pulling a tooth... and the extremists in both movements are correct about the oppositions objectives. The odd thing is that if you speak to people in both sides, you find that the majority on both sides actually share the same beliefs as most Pro Lifers do support abortion for reasons of necessity and most Pro Choicers only support abortion for reasons of necessity as well. Most Pro Choicers do not support abortion for birth control and know that extremist Pro Choicers support abortion on demand which inherently means for any reason... including birth control. Likewise, Most Pro Lifers do not support denying abortion to women whose lives are in danger or who were raped but they know that extremist Pro Lifers support abolishing abortion for any reason even if the mother dies as a result. The answer is creating a special interest group to represent the majority which is where I came up with the idea for Pro Necessity... but who would support such a group if you have no wealth to promote it or politicians to promote the idea to get legislation created and passed?

    The issue then becomes one where we know the political parties are not going to go away, we have no realistic expectations of responsibility on their part to create strong regulation regarding things like lobbying and the two parties are extremely polarizing.

    To bypass these problems, a third party giving voice to Moderates would give the majority voice in the center representation and the wings of our government would have to move towards the center to remain viable. If no third party can be formed, then we can form it ourselves through a system where we list leftwingers on the left, rightwingers on the right and moderates in the center. They can define themselves anyway they like but if they are are a right left or center... we would put them where they belong.

    Take Mississippi's Gene Taylor regarded as being more Conservative than the majority of Conservative Republicans. He was, nevertheless, attacked as a leftwinger by Republicans after he eliminated the leftwing opposition and lost to a Republican less Conservative than he himself is which could actually hurt Republicans more than help them. Likewise, where it might seem to hurt Democrats to do this, it would possibly strengthen them as well because if the Democrats are going to be seen as leftwingers... then they should be leftwingers.

    Unlike Britain where Labour and the Liberal Party are represented in the US by the Democrats alone, a third party forces coalitions like you mentioned... but would you ever see Liberals and Conservatives forming such a coalition to work together in the United States? No you wouldn't and the closest thing we have to that is the fact that there are Conservative Democrats willing to work across party lines on a regular basis.

    The ideology is important but as we both know, the special interest groups actually are more important in the process as the ideologies of both parties have become perverted by Socialists and Progressives claiming to be Liberals when they aren't while Neoconservatives and Constitutionalists claim to be Conservatives when they aren't.

    The Moderates need a voice as does the center to oppose the right and left. Maybe they won't do this on their own... so we need to find a way to do it ourselves in a realistic way since we don't have hundreds of millions of dollars.

    Course you could start it off by donating a million Stu ;)

    Lol, seriously... we need new ideas Stu and while I agree we don't need political parties, we're stuck with them.
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  • STU~PWC... chaoski... 2010/11/17 11:21:45
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    Excellent analysis. It's certainly possible that having a Moderate party would create coalitions that would eliminate some of the gridlock Congress goes through from time to time. The problem is that it's a mixed blessing. Moderates don't actually have any ideology, so the concensus building could lead to bad legislation, which is worse than no legislation. Sadly, there's no easy answer to this.
  • Conservative in California 2010/11/17 09:29:33
    My view
    Conservative in California
    +2
    If the GOP refuses to govern with the consent of the governed (the TEA Party) the next two years, I will do two things: Vote out GOP establishment candidates and vote for TEA Party candidates.
  • chaoski... Conserv... 2010/11/17 09:49:28
    chaoskitty123
    +2
    But as even the Tea Party says, it's not a political party and it seems like they are completely rightwing which would not qualify them for the status of third party as I described. I oppose the falsehoods stated about the Tea Party and the cries of racism and hate... I cannot deny that they are rightwing because for all the talk, I have seen very few Liberals or leftwingers in the Tea Party. Granted, the leftwingers infiltrating the Tea Party pretending to be racist rightwingers justifies a certain level of suspicion, but where you have leftwingers telling you openly what they are, the Tea Party should be more protective of it's members while creating a new identity for the fake Liberal Tea Party members...



    If the Tea Party does more over the next two years to honor it's pledge to represent all Americans and can shake the control of the political right, then I would believe it. But once Newt Gingrich became involved, flashes of the 1994 grassroots Republican upsurge and it's betrayal by men like Gingrich... I gave up on the Tea Party as anything more than a group exploiting anger in America and anger can dissipate just as easily as it rises meaning the Tea Party will die out if the political left simply stops attacking them and stirring things up.

    I know you are a Conservativ...
    But as even the Tea Party says, it's not a political party and it seems like they are completely rightwing which would not qualify them for the status of third party as I described. I oppose the falsehoods stated about the Tea Party and the cries of racism and hate... I cannot deny that they are rightwing because for all the talk, I have seen very few Liberals or leftwingers in the Tea Party. Granted, the leftwingers infiltrating the Tea Party pretending to be racist rightwingers justifies a certain level of suspicion, but where you have leftwingers telling you openly what they are, the Tea Party should be more protective of it's members while creating a new identity for the fake Liberal Tea Party members...

    pepe le pewparty protective members creating identity fake liberal tea party members

    If the Tea Party does more over the next two years to honor it's pledge to represent all Americans and can shake the control of the political right, then I would believe it. But once Newt Gingrich became involved, flashes of the 1994 grassroots Republican upsurge and it's betrayal by men like Gingrich... I gave up on the Tea Party as anything more than a group exploiting anger in America and anger can dissipate just as easily as it rises meaning the Tea Party will die out if the political left simply stops attacking them and stirring things up.

    I know you are a Conservative CiC but we're not going to resolve our problems by simply putting our faith in Conservatives because the political left is actually stronger when the political right are in power. We must have something new and a new direction instead of a two party system where the right and the left prevail and nothing representing the center has any strength to pull us back together. Let the right and the left fight to give each side of the issue a voice... but do not forget that resolutions do not come from one side forcing itself on the other because they gain an upper hand, resolutions only come when we shake hands finding common agreement and you shake hands in the middle in common agreement.
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  • Edward chaoski... 2010/11/17 09:56:48
    Edward
    I don't see the left stopping anytime soon
  • chaoski... Edward 2010/11/17 11:13:35
    chaoskitty123
    Neither will go away and they really shouldn't as they each serve to provide a point counterpoint view on the issues. Unfortunately, there's no narrator or voice for the center to balance out the views of right and left to produce answers allowing us to resolve problems instead of being manipulated and exploited by self serving special interests and politicians with little or no leadership ability.
  • Radlad chaoski... 2010/11/18 03:01:29
    Radlad
    the tea party is right wing . that's a good thing. Cause the tea party is for constitutional government. Although no one is right wing they are both well left of center..........................
  • Conserv... chaoski... 2010/11/18 09:07:11
    Conservative in California
    It's the American People who are the TEA Party and are demanding the GOP become more conservative and align themselves with the Constitution. The reason why the GOP became so unpopular was that they abandoned their conservative principles.

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