It's Been 11 Years Since the 9/11 Attacks: Is America Safer Now Than It Was Back Then?
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2012/09/11 08:00:00
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Tinka123 2012/09/11 10:58:38No





















With our porous borders and seaports anyone could walk in with a dirty bomb on his back.
Fear that the deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya that left four Americans dead could damage President Obama's foreign policy credentials just 50 days before the election may be driving the administration's insistence that the attack was a spontaneous act, analysts said Monday.
The Libyan president said over the weekend the attack was clearly pre-planned and could bear the markings of an Al Qaeda strike. An intelligence source in Libya also told Fox News on Monday there was no significant demonstration at the time. Still, the administration has contended the attack was "spontaneous," a product of protests already under way against an anti-Islam film.This is all B.S. people.
the many warnings given and today we have such a president in President Obama, I believe that we are indeed, much safer than we were 11years ago.
and in other instances trying to have influence over their Government, we will never
be entirely safe. Already most of the World hates us and wants us to withdraw our
troops in the Countries where we still waste money and lives. If you think the war
is over in Afghanistan, you are so totally unaware of what is going on. They have wanted us to leave for a long time. Maybe we are still looking for Bin Laden or could it have
something to do with their oil???
And to make this realization all the worse, this is precisely what Bin Laden predicted would happen. We would descend into a "choking hell" of oppression in our zeal for chasing ghosts.
We ARE less free than we were 11 years ago.
Our government has leveraged the attacks of 9/11 to wage an all out perpetual state of war in the middle east, costing us trillions of dollars that will span many presidencies.
This fight with Al Qaeda will become our palestine. It is a fight against a moveable people that have no one country, no one flag, just one ideology that stands juxtopposed to ours. And for every top military leader of theirs we take out, 20 more new members will get recruited to their ranks. This is an international gang war and it will not stop in our lifetimes. We've also seen some of the biggest ballooning in federal spending since 9/11 with the construction of the Department of Homeland security and with the implementation of the Patriot Act. If you thought the Pentagon was spending too much money before on surveillance, black ops, drone technology, counter-insurgency, and intelligence gathering it's absolutely immense now. Gone are the days of "innocent until proven guilty" even if you are a US citizen. Our government's definition of what constitutes a terrorist is so broad that it even infringes upon our free speech rights.
"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by ...
We ARE less free than we were 11 years ago.
Our government has leveraged the attacks of 9/11 to wage an all out perpetual state of war in the middle east, costing us trillions of dollars that will span many presidencies.
This fight with Al Qaeda will become our palestine. It is a fight against a moveable people that have no one country, no one flag, just one ideology that stands juxtopposed to ours. And for every top military leader of theirs we take out, 20 more new members will get recruited to their ranks. This is an international gang war and it will not stop in our lifetimes. We've also seen some of the biggest ballooning in federal spending since 9/11 with the construction of the Department of Homeland security and with the implementation of the Patriot Act. If you thought the Pentagon was spending too much money before on surveillance, black ops, drone technology, counter-insurgency, and intelligence gathering it's absolutely immense now. Gone are the days of "innocent until proven guilty" even if you are a US citizen. Our government's definition of what constitutes a terrorist is so broad that it even infringes upon our free speech rights.
"Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed."
Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)
"The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Terrorism is what it is and will always be difficult to guard against, especially in every remote location the USA has on the map.
Whether it's the republicians, democrats, Bush or Obama, or even if Romney gets his chance as President (if who's President really matters that much anyway), terrorism witl always be a threat that needs to be taken serious
Maybe our police wouldn't seem so bad if any of us experienced the brutality of the gestapo, or some 3rd world country ruled by a dictator and more corruption most US citizens can imagine.
I do get your point about our own police, there have been plenty of circumstance in our own country of police brutality, not to mention laws restricting our freedoms. I would think most of us agree that kind of "protection" we don't want in a free nation.
I stand a one in 300 million chance of being killed by a terrorist. I stand a one in 300 chance of being killed by a pig. (And the latter estimate is HUGELY conservative.)
History shows us we were not safe when Bush spent billions on military programs. Bush has no legacy because of his failures. The Bush administration spent billions of dollars on wars.
This stopped nothing, except McCain and Romney from getting into the White House!
be surprised if they don't come here and kill everyone they can. Starting this time at the White House, They hate Obama more than any one.
The only "thwarting" I've heard about were complete imbeciles who were mostly just set up for entrapment by the FBI.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-2...
Real Terrorism
Other obvious searches return music videos. If you really want (and think I'm lying), I'll dig up my email archives.
Terrorists operate regularly on American soil. Most of them have badges.
Or were you arguing with my assertion that most "planned terrorist attacks" were entrapment?
That's the most serious article I've run across. I'd think that any good Proggy would be up in arms about this. Since, after all, it's really GWB's policies against freedom that we're talking about. (You know, the ones the ones that Obama absolutely loves?)
Or maybe you had something different in mind?
of Bush setting up GITMO..and interrogating prisoners....
which the obama then calls inhuman...even though Obama benifitted from Bush's work..
I'm not writing this in favor of Obama, by any means. I just happen to agree with TJ that sacrificing freedom for security is a losing proposition.
"The most common targets in the U.S. have been military installations, major landmarks, transit systems and Jewish or Israeli institutions. In fact, hatred of Jews and Israel has played an alarming role in the radicalization process of many of these same homegrown extremists"
http://www.adl.org/NR/exeres/...
see below for interesting photo spread by CBS, although mostly attacks abroad.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-2...
Still a dangerous world out there.
Watch as Republican's Sell Off American Jobs and Land!
I could go on for hours with this, but what you need to know is that you should be very, very afraid, but not about what some raghead in a cave half way round the world is going to do. They are converting all of the empty military bases around the country into concentration camps for a reason, and it's not to put millions of Muslims in.
Before you dismiss all of this as some sort of paranoid conspiracy theory, you should know that everything I said above and much, much, more is a matter of public record, all you have to do is open your eyes and look.
The "War On Terror" was designed to get us to give up all of our rights in the name of security. It has worked like a charm. Again, don't take my word for this, do some studying on your own. What you are going to find is shocking.
Anytime you give up freedom for security, you will have neither.
The enemy you really need to fear is in Washington, D.C. You are about to vote many of them into office or return them to office. The ball is in your court, either do the research and make up your own mind, or go blindly into a future that is going to make Hitler look like a Sunday school teacher. Your choice, but the facts are there if you are willing to look. If not, you had better be on good terms with your God because you are going to need all the help you can get. In fact, we all are.