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Israel's Trail Of Tears. Should The U.N. Give Israel Back To The Palestinians?

Foxhound BN0 2012/05/16 09:33:32
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Yes. Palestinians were there already! Stealing their land was wrong!
No. Takers keepers! It belongs to the Jewish people now!
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In 1948 the UN stole the land of Israel from the people who already lived there. Should they have to give it back?
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  • Gunner 2012/05/16 11:12:30
    No. Takers keepers! It belongs to the Jewish people now!
    Gunner
    +17
    Your "yes" answer is factually and historically incorrect. Following tne end of WWII, Israel was occupied by the British. The Israelis didn't steal anything - they kicked the Brits out and claimed their land and established an independent State.

    Let me guess - your preferred news source is Al Jezeera; the Holocaust never happened; the Yom Kippur and 6-Day wars are fabrications; and Iran wants to be friends with Israel.

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  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/21 12:22:50
    irish
    LOL LOL oh please! so they claim. i can claim that too doesn't make it true!
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/21 21:03:21
    Swampdog PWCM
    The Israelis were out numbered 30:1 in 1948, 40:1 in 1956, 59:1 in 1967, and 8:1 in 1973, do you see a pattern? GOD shows himself where the entire earth can see. I hope you can see.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/22 12:52:26
    irish
    +1
    god shmod,this guy in the sky you cite seems to have no problem with the murders of 1000's of innocent people all the while commanding "thou shalt not kill". the palestinians were not being armed from foreign countries as the zionists were.
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/23 16:26:00
    Swampdog PWCM
    Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Iran , Iraq, Saudi Arabia, yep the Palestinians did it ALL on their own! Dream on sweetheart! GOD doesn't kill people, people kill people.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/23 16:40:37
    irish
    +1
    LOL LOL the shmod is the usual excuse! it was the zionists . god  says kills god  orders killings funnies http://www.atheistmemebase.co...
  • squire irish 2012/07/20 19:26:05
    squire
    +1
    you pegged him right
  • irish squire 2012/07/20 19:36:44
    irish
    +1
    thank you.
  • Swampdo... Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 15:03:30
    Swampdog PWCM
    +1
    Nope, the British took the land from the former Ottoman Empire, post WW1. Britain, France and the U.S. created the state of Israel after WW2. Finally on May 14th 1948 Israel became a country.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/18 13:20:47
    irish
    it is not a country. a country has borders and a constitution. israel has neither.
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/19 17:27:51
    Swampdog PWCM
    The U.N. recognize them. Why don't you? Do you hate Israel? Do you hate what Israel represents?
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/20 11:43:31
    irish
    +1
    so? the u.n has also sanctioned israel over 135 times for human rights violations against the palestinians. why are you not upset over the way the people in palestine are being treated? israel is a terrorist state ,illegal state. it has no borders or constitution.
    who would be okay with israel and what it does except for the religiously brainwashed? how does anyone support this racist ,apartheid state that runs the world's largest concentration camp? and deny's others their basic human rights?
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/20 17:22:57
    Swampdog PWCM
    Maybe the Palestinians are trying to kill all the Jews? Do you think that may have something to do with it.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/21 12:35:58
    irish
    +1
    wrong. the zionists forced their way into palestine,the palestininans were attacked. get some real history lessons!
    Ben-Gurion declared. "Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country."
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/21 21:10:22
    Swampdog PWCM
    Zionists and the true Jew are two different things, perhaps a history lesson for you is needed. If the Palestinians ever make peace with the Israelis all the Arab nations of the world will be at the throats of Palestine. In 1998 the Israeli Prime minister decided to give Yassar Arrafet every concession he asked for if only there could be peace between their two countries. Arrafat turned him down. That should be a clue for you.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/22 13:00:41
    irish
    +1
    what garbage! the israeli's have never wanted peace,ever!
    Arafat could not accept it. Barak, backed by Clinton, wanted assurance of Israel’s continued strategic control over the West Bank and Gaza, including air space and borders, and insisted that Israel retain permanent sovereignty over most of East Jerusalem, including Haram Al-Sharif. This was a deal no Arab would accept.

    What do Palestinians want and deserve? In a word: justice.

    They want sovereign statehood - no ifs, ands, buts or maybe next time.

    They want it comprised of Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - 22% of historic Palestine, not parts only in isolated pieces.

    They want control over their shoreline and air space.

    They want fixed borders and unfragmented territorial integrity, not isolated cantons on worthless scrub land constituting no state at all.

    They want Israel's illegal occupation ended.

    They want unauthorized incursions on their land called naked aggression.

    They want international law provisions enforced, including UN Charter Chapter VII, Article 51, saying nations may attack another only in self-defense. Even then, it's only until the Security Council acts as the final arbiter on matters of international peace and security.

    They want freedom over their own lives.

    They want decades of Israeli st...



















    what garbage! the israeli's have never wanted peace,ever!
    Arafat could not accept it. Barak, backed by Clinton, wanted assurance of Israel’s continued strategic control over the West Bank and Gaza, including air space and borders, and insisted that Israel retain permanent sovereignty over most of East Jerusalem, including Haram Al-Sharif. This was a deal no Arab would accept.

    What do Palestinians want and deserve? In a word: justice.

    They want sovereign statehood - no ifs, ands, buts or maybe next time.

    They want it comprised of Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem - 22% of historic Palestine, not parts only in isolated pieces.

    They want control over their shoreline and air space.

    They want fixed borders and unfragmented territorial integrity, not isolated cantons on worthless scrub land constituting no state at all.

    They want Israel's illegal occupation ended.

    They want unauthorized incursions on their land called naked aggression.

    They want international law provisions enforced, including UN Charter Chapter VII, Article 51, saying nations may attack another only in self-defense. Even then, it's only until the Security Council acts as the final arbiter on matters of international peace and security.

    They want freedom over their own lives.

    They want decades of Israeli state terror ended.

    They want no more of their land stolen.

    They want access to every international convention and institution able to help them.

    They want diaspora refugees freely able to return as codified in international law.

    On December 11, 1948, UN Resolution 194 "(r)esolve(d) that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live in peace with their neighbors should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation (paid by responsible governments or authorities) should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return...."

    Article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:

    "Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.

    Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his (or her) own, and to return to his (or her) country."

    The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) states:

    "No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his (or her) own country."

    In short, they want and deserve the same rights as all citizens. Sadly, too few have them, but no one anywhere should quit struggling for what's right, especially those long-suffering and denied.
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  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/23 16:33:14
    Swampdog PWCM
    Nicely stated and thoroughly researched.However the Arafat story is true! The day there is peace between the Israelis and Palestinians the Palestinians will be become the most hated people in the Arabesque/ Mulsim world.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/23 16:42:37
    irish
    i doubt it.
  • fuzzy K... Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 15:44:50
    fuzzy Ken "In G*d We Trust"
    +1
    Stole the land from whom?
    20% of the land was purchased from the Arab owners. Most of the rest was public land, owned by whomever ruled: the Turks, the Brits, etc.
    50% of the Arabs chose to stay in Israel. Why is that?
    The other 50% fled at the urging of Egyptian radio. They made themselves refugees. It's long past time for other countries to take in these refugees. Their Arab "brothers" have been keeping them in refugee camps for decades.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/16 13:28:45
    irish
    +1
    wrong. when did this being begin to deal in real estate? palestine existed long before any state calling itself israel came into being.
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/16 15:00:06
    Swampdog PWCM
    Really? Name just ONE of their former leaders. Just ONE of their past presidents, and don't tell me Anwar Sadat, he was a rabble rouser, nothing more.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/17 14:27:45
    irish
    oh ,here we go,you seem to forget that palestine was part of the ottoman empire.
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/17 17:00:43
    Swampdog PWCM
    If you would take the time to read about 6 or 7 comments above you will read that I mentioned that earlier. The Ottoman Empire handed that section of land to the Brits after WW1. The notion that there was a Palestine EVER is a lie perpetuated by the Jew hating population on this planet. By the way Israel was also part of the Ottoman Empire.
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/17 17:52:18
    irish
    no ,they did not hand it over to the brits. israel NEVER existed ,ever. there was a palestine. look at maps! coins ,etc etc . the lie that is spread is that there never was a palestine,a lie easily disproven by the arab hating israeli's.
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/17 18:20:19
    Swampdog PWCM
    Israel never existed? So I guess all those stories in the bible about Sampson and David and Goliath, and Solomon and Jesus are just made up? Ancient Palestine would be called Philistine not Palestine and David killed their greatest warrior Goliath. Where are you getting your history?
  • irish Swampdo... 2012/05/17 18:26:22
    irish
    yep,exactly. stories around the campfire!
    LOL LOL wow,you really fell for those tall tales didn't you?
  • Swampdo... irish 2012/05/17 18:49:59
    Swampdog PWCM
    Have you ever witnessed a miracle? I was an Industrial Hygienist for 30+ years. My duties included inspecting the local hospitals. I had numerous medical friends, and we would meet sometimes for lunch. Our discussions included many things even the witnessing of miracles. You may find it hard to believe but every physician and nurse there had at least one story of a miraculous circumstance.
  • hat man Swampdo... 2012/05/16 13:40:14
    hat man
    God? LOL. Good one.
  • hat man 2012/05/16 12:35:30
    No. Takers keepers! It belongs to the Jewish people now!
    hat man
    +1
    You don't just hand over countries.
  • Foxhoun... hat man 2012/05/16 13:02:46
    Foxhound BN0
    +3
    That's what the Palestinians keep saying to the Israelis.
  • hat man Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 13:39:31 (edited)
    hat man
    And? What does that have to do with my statement? I don't support either side.
  • irish hat man 2012/05/16 13:29:15
    irish
    then who had the authority to "hand" over palestine to the europeans?
  • hat man irish 2012/05/16 13:38:41
    hat man
    No one did. I don't agree with Israel on the state of affairs nor do I agree with Palestine. I am neutral on the case. But people can't be expected to just move from their homes.
  • Mimosa 2012/05/16 12:24:17
    No. Takers keepers! It belongs to the Jewish people now!
    Mimosa
    +3
    It has always belonged to the Jewish people. Before WWII that land was part of the British Empire. And the tears you speak of are Jewish tears, being exiled from their homeland for centuries. And they did not take the land, they purchased the land from the inhabitants.
  • Foxhoun... Mimosa 2012/05/16 13:03:05
  • Mimosa Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 13:35:02
    Mimosa
    +1
    You do realize that some of the people who lived there in 1948 are probably still alive right, and their children too.

    I know a few of these folks. and they are not Jewish or Arab which makes them neurtral.
    The BS comes from the lies handed down from generation to generation within a terrorist community.
    READ A HISTORY BOOK
  • Foxhoun... Mimosa 2012/05/16 13:45:13
    Foxhound BN0
    +1
    nonsense.
  • Mimosa Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 13:47:02
    Mimosa
    +2
    you certainly are.
  • Foxhoun... Mimosa 2012/05/16 15:12:43
  • cmdrbnd007 Foxhoun... 2012/05/16 14:39:06
    cmdrbnd007
    +1
    Try reading a history book.
  • irish Mimosa 2012/05/16 13:29:51
    irish
    +1
    wrong. 90 % of people in israel are russian and eastern europeans.

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