Israeli prime minister convenes urgent security forum Friday August 7th. What are your thoughts?
Raven
2009/08/08 04:14:07
According to the official statement, prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his security cabinet of six were briefed on Middle East developments at a special session Friday, Aug. 7. DEBKAfile's military sources report that an unusually large number of officials were brought together, indicating that an out-of-the-ordinary security development was afoot. They included the chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Gaby Ashkenazi, military intelligence chief Brig. Amos Yadlin, Mossad director Meir Dagan, Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin, OC Southern Command Brig. Yoav Galant and several more senior officers.
America will need to act in its own self interest. I think our self interest has to be an Iran without nukes, one way or another
If we cannot remove the Iranian development of nukes by diplomatic means or by using military means ourselves, then we need to support Israel as she does the dirty work for the democracies.
Weirdly, Israel will probably have the backdoor support of Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Strange bedfellows, indeed.
Come on you know I was just being mean!
But I can not be mean to smeone who isn't mean back
So you win this round
I wouldn't take much of what they say serious, I read them for laughs.
“Business as usual? The Iranian regime, the holy war against Israel and the West and the German reaction,“ organized by the recently created
»Mideast Freedom Forum Berlin (MFFB)«. Astonishingly despite wide participation by journalist from major newspapers, there was no mention of the conference in the German media.
"Pallaschke branded Iran the “biggest threat in the history of mankind” and as such “to all civilized states.” The next speaker was Charles A. Small, professor of history at Yale University, who argued that Nazism and “radical Islam” had a common ideology. Even Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, Israeli politician and longtime Brigadier-General, had alluded to the possibility of a “second Holocaust,”
A U.S. National Intelligence Estimate released last week concludes that Iran halted its weapons program in 2003 A team of International Atomic Energy Agency experts arrived in Tehran on Sunday in an effort to reassure the Israelis that no Uranium enrichment for military purposes is taking place.
IAEA Report on Iranhttp://www.dni.gov/press_...
http://www.iaea.org/NewsCente...
NIE- National Intelligence Estimate of Iran, Nuclear Intentions and Capabilites 2007
Is Israel trying to push us into war?
Israel Pushes USA to Naval Blockade IRAN (...
“Business as usual? The Iranian regime, the holy war against Israel and the West and the German reaction,“ organized by the recently created
»Mideast Freedom Forum Berlin (MFFB)«. Astonishingly despite wide participation by journalist from major newspapers, there was no mention of the conference in the German media.
"Pallaschke branded Iran the “biggest threat in the history of mankind” and as such “to all civilized states.” The next speaker was Charles A. Small, professor of history at Yale University, who argued that Nazism and “radical Islam” had a common ideology. Even Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, Israeli politician and longtime Brigadier-General, had alluded to the possibility of a “second Holocaust,”
A U.S. National Intelligence Estimate released last week concludes that Iran halted its weapons program in 2003 A team of International Atomic Energy Agency experts arrived in Tehran on Sunday in an effort to reassure the Israelis that no Uranium enrichment for military purposes is taking place.
IAEA Report on Iranhttp://www.dni.gov/press_...
http://www.iaea.org/NewsCente...
NIE- National Intelligence Estimate of Iran, Nuclear Intentions and Capabilites 2007
Is Israel trying to push us into war?
Israel Pushes USA to Naval Blockade IRAN (WAR ON IRAN)
I came to know about this from a video made by Congressman Ron Paul, he was talking about a US House of Representatives Resolution (H.CON.RES 362) that requires a naval blockade on Iran. I later came to know that it has been pushed by the American Pro-Israel Lobby.
http://www.ibrahimo.com/2008/...
America is dead sore and tired of war, we want our soldiers to come home.
If Israel wants to start a war- let her.
Israel didn't help our war, why should we pay for hers? In blood or more money?
Israel did not want the US to go to war with Iraq. In fact, Sharon told Bush not to do it. He warned him of the consequences. But Bush did not listen to Sharon. Unfortunately the anti-Israel propoganda machine likes to blame Iraq on the Israelis. That just is not true.
But actually, I just heard this morning on Shalom TV Israeli News (cable) that the US asked Israel to stir up some shit around Iran and make noise, send out ships, etc. But that has more to do with political theatre than war. I might get some more information on that tomorrow in my various news emails.
And the reality of Israel and Iran would be Israel would send planes to bomb the reactors not put men on the ground. Sending the planes alone would have a large death rate for the Israeli pilots. So, I doubt that Israel really wants that and are hoping that the US will talk Iran out of getting Nukes. But we all know that will never happen.
I have also read in the news lately (I'll try to find it) that the US is speeding up their bunker buster production because of Iran and North Korea.
what israel does is because WE told them to do it.
And I guess WE tell Netanyahu to og on interviews and state his intention to attack Iran?
"that the US asked Israel to stir up some shit around Iran and make noise"
Well, as you always demand of me- and I always comply-
Where is your proof?
But it still is no answer for why you are pushing personally n these boards to send american troops and shed american blood- and american taxpayer money-
to fight for Israel who wants to START a war.
But you Of COURSE Israel doesn;t want to expend her own soldiers-
why would they when they can get the USA to do it for them?
No, what you read is that Netanyahu made the request for bunker busters a month ago-
But you always make statements, and then promise to find info- but it rarely happens-
You ALWAYS try to put words into my mouth don't you.
Here are MY WORDS SO YOU DON'T GET CONFUSED.
The US DOES NOT MAKE Israel do anything and Israel DOES NOT MAKE the US do anything. IT'S people like you that believe that. Not me.
MY WORDS SO YOU DON'T GET CONFUSED: I personally have no problem with Israel hitting the nuclear reactors in Iran like they did with Iraq in the 70's and in Syria a year or two ago. NO AMERICAN TROOPS INVOLVED. NO ISRAELI TROOPS INVOLVED.
American troops into Iran? Are you crazy?
What the hell are you talking about? Israel will fly their planes and bomb the reactors. That's it. NO AMERICAN TROOPS INVOLVED. NO ISRAELI TROOPS INVOLVED.
No war has ever been waged where no soldiers are involved.
And Iran is a nation of human beings.
And no one has suggested a surgical strike against a building-
but a war against a people.
That is the strangest sanitized illustration of war I have ever encountered.
And,even if your antiseptic version were somehow- for the first time in the world- true-
Americans still pay for it with their money.
Israel has healthcare that provides for 95% of it's citizens- on our dime and our back.
We need to take care of our own and let Israel take care of it's own- for the first time in it's history as a nation.
And you need to check your sources. Neither Israel nor America want to put boots on the ground in Iran.
American DOES NOT PAY FOR ISRAELS HEALTH CARE. And if I feel so inclined I will look for the stats I already put on sodahead regarding that.
STOP SPREADING LIES.
America has subsidized every aspect of Israel since it's inception.
Actually, our foreign aid laws and statutes make it illegal to give aid to a foreign nation for over 10 years.
Israel has been receiving aid, and 33% of our entire budget for 61 years.
They realized how bad this looks to the american people- so pretended to take a cut a few years ago-
but supplement the remainder through so-called 'forgivable loans' which means they don't have to be paid back- plus literally billions in charity- plus military and weaponry gifts..
What they do is, pretend to buy weapons- and purchase with those same 'forgivable loans'
SO it looks like less on the cooked books-
So we break our own laws to keep pumping the cash into Israel- fighting about health care in our own country- but subsidizing Israeli citizens healthcare.
And who is PAYING for those planes and bunkers Netanyahu came to the USA, hat in hand, to request?
Not Israel!
Sure, post your 'stats'.
You won't, you never do-
What you'll do is pretend you already did it-
What stats do you have? Are you going to say Egypt has received the same aid as Israel for 2 years?
Big deal- the books are cooked anyway-
And it has nothing to do with what we've given and continue to give Israel.
"So we break our own laws to keep pumping the cash into Israel-fighting about health care in our own country- but subsidizing Israeli citizens healthcare."
The key words in both your statements is "our" and "we." That's how an American who is loyal to America speaks, as thay defend THEIR country (the USA) and not the interests of a foreign government.
I don't have time to enter this debate but as far as Israel wanting nothing to do with the Iraq war or any involvement??? I don't think so.
http://www.nogw.com/download/...
That is---- deplorable and uncivilized in every sense of the word.
It is odd that loyalty to one's own country is suspect, isn't it?
I'm not sure how killing-off Iraqi scientists and academics helps with "Operation Iraqi Freedom"? Nor can I see how it has anything to do with insurgents or restoring stability??
There's a real disconnect there-
Unless of course, creating instability IS the motive.
Then it makes very logical sense.
they gotta learn better propaganda techniques!
It's based upon a report compiled by the US State Department.
Open mouth, insert foot.
the pictures get stupid after a while even if they were kinda of cute in the beginning
the info is from aljazeera;
i do not know what else to say except aljazeera is a propaganda rag for the ummah; you know that
would you believe anything i posted from the jerusalem post if it was critical of you muslims
the SOURCE is the US State Dept.
you are saying that the us state department headed by hillary clinton is accusing israel of assasinating over 500 iraqi professors since 2003
are you serious?
are you serious?
some jihadist from aljazeera says this comes from the us state dept (trust me) and you actually believe that crap
may allah bless america, right?
do you believe that hillary clinton is accusing the israelis of assassinating over 500 iraqi professors?
you can depend on aljazeera to blame the jews
By stubbornly refusing to read the article, or admit that your knee jerk reaction was just plain wrong-
You'r wrong (again) Theo.
But, you can compulsively keep calling attention to the fact- of your own wrongness, if you like.
now show me where the us state dept says that as in you know (hillary clinton)
al jazeera is a proaganda piece for the ummah, you dummy
I suppose you have the stats on this?
I'll show you mine if you show me yours
Big deal- the books are cooked anyway-
And it has nothing to do with what we've given and continue to give Israel.
You also never provide links or sources.
Go ahead- learn something and find the stats that show that Israel HASN'T received our money for 60 years.
In 1998, Israel offered to voluntarily reduce its dependence on U.S. economic aid and it has now been phased out altogether. Today, it receives only military assistance.
And this
Only about 26 percent of Israel’s military aid can be spent in Israel. The remainder must be spent in the United States to generate profits and jobs. In 2006 alone, U.S. companies in 45 states received more than $1.2 billion for Israel-related military projects.
And this
Arab states also receive large amounts of aid from the United States. Egypt is the second largest recipient of foreign
aid ($1.7 billion in 2007). Jordan has also been the beneficiary of higher levels of aid since it signed a treaty with Israel. The multibillion dollar debts to the U.S. of both Arab nations were also forgiven. The U.S. is the largest contributor to the UN agency supporting Palestinian refugees (UNRWA)— $150 million in 2008 and has allocated more than $1 billion for development assistance programs in the West Bank and Gaza, the third largest amount provided by the U.S. Government for any foreign assistance program.
But of course you don't give a hoot about anything I say. Only your biased opinion is important to you.
"Egypt is the second largest recipient of foreign
aid ($1.7 billion in 2007)"
So, your point is, that we bought off Egypt for the past 2 years to BENEFIT ISRAEL.
http://www.un.org/unrwa/publi...
" $150 million in 2008 and has allocated more than $1 billion for ..."
Amd how much of that 150 reached the Gazans?
And how much was taxed before they ever saw it- at 50% by the Israeli gov?
You can throw big numbers around- but allocations do not mean money in hand-
that is how we pretend to help- by promising moneies that never reach their goal-
But what does any of this have to do with 60 years of aid toa country that has one of the highest standards of living in the world, and is also one of the primary abusers of human rights?
I am calling this fight!
He is no match for you; it is a bloody mess.
Go to your corner and let the Ring side Doctors try to revive him.LOL
His boxing coach, Arvaar, "facts R Us",, levi, will not show.