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Is WAR stupid

freespire 2012/07/24 12:02:04
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I think war is stupid and killing for no reason is murder which is what the Bible teaches
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  • MandaLynne 2012/07/24 12:37:26 (edited)
    No let's ....
    MandaLynne
    +7
    War is not stupid. It is sometimes a very necessary means of fighting evil.

    Should the world have let Hitler continue his killing of Jews and conquering Europe? Should the United States allowed the South to succeed and continuing enslaving blacks? Should we have let Japan continue bombing our country?

    As it has been said, "war is hell". It is not pretty, it is brutal and it is sometimes needed.

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  • David Hussey 2012/08/06 17:20:53
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/07 10:10:22
    freespire
    +1
    excellent researching thanks for sharing these great thoughts which support and give full reasoning to the notion of how foolish war really is :-)))
  • David H... freespire 2012/08/08 04:25:12
    David Hussey
    +1
    The Thoreau quote is my favorite, it speaks a real truth in my opinion.

    I like the Kennedy one too, I think it speaks to the very heart of why we are saddled with war after war, and why what Thoreau says remains true to this day
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/09 11:46:30
    freespire
    +1
    yes and for worldly wisdom it is really something one should be asking why Humans are still stupid enough to murder eachother.
  • ☆GrayBear☆ (Ursus Americanus) 2012/07/28 21:32:06
    No let's ....
    ☆GrayBear☆ (Ursus Americanus)
    +2
    No one hates war more than the warrior.

    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

    ~John Stuart Mills~
  • freespire ☆GrayBe... 2012/08/01 09:07:00
    freespire
    +1
    which is excatly why war is a foolish way sadly it ihas been a place in our hisory but in to-days world of connectivity between nations it should be a thing of the past as I have reasoned why in other comments thanks for sharing
  • Duke----The Non Racist, Fun... 2012/07/25 02:03:51
    yes it is....
    Duke----The Non Racist, Funny Duke !
    +2
    absolutely
  • Libijac 2012/07/25 01:01:48
  • freespire Libijac 2012/07/25 01:33:06
    freespire
    +2
    I agree war is good for nothing
  • jere.chievres 2012/07/24 20:15:14
    Undecided
    jere.chievres
    +1
    Many are but some have to be fought.
  • freespire jere.ch... 2012/07/25 01:37:57
    freespire
    +2
    I have to disagree with you and I will say why.

    if two people are having a fight then the fight is between the two people and no one else.
    now if these two people are country leaders then it should be a fight in a independant court of law where both sides persent their own reasonings and the court can deciede who is right or wrong.

    the only thing war produces is who's left alive are the murdering has taken place.

    War has never resovled right or wrong only who is still strong enough to force terms over the weaker one
  • jere.ch... freespire 2012/07/25 13:02:09
    jere.chievres
    Well then maybe we should have let the Japanese Tack over your little island "Continent" in
    1942?
  • freespire jere.ch... 2012/07/26 11:15:44
    freespire
    +1
    brother you are missing the point it is not that war happens it is the mentality of people who are willing to go to war as I said if all people, and I do mean both sides said no we will not go. then everyone stays at home am I right?

    so that leaves the two arrigant country leaders to have to kill eachother am I right?

    which would also mean millions of people would not be murder for some fools disagreement would you agree?

    now tell me does war result in death and destruction of countries and peoples live's for many years to come ?..... or do you believe this is something to be goryifed?
  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/07/24 16:43:02
    No let's ....
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    Obviously you dont' diddly squat about the Bible or you would have given references to back you lame opine.
  • freespire SK-LIBE... 2012/07/25 01:42:43
    freespire
    +3
    it is sad you are so quick to place a judgement upon someone with out at least knowing the truth.

    I do know of the wars held and recorded in the bible which makes the bible more valid in truth as it told both good and bad deeds done under God's push to free humans from satan's yoke here on earth.

    the question is are you as honest in your dealings with humans as the bible is?
  • SK-LIBE... freespire 2012/07/25 01:52:51
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    Why are you changing the subject? why don't you give references to back your claim?
  • David H... freespire 2012/08/09 14:28:42
    David Hussey
    +1
    No, honestly dealing with things is not their forte
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/10 06:01:02
    freespire
    +1
    I hear that maybe it is because they are still child like in mentalitity?
  • David H... freespire 2012/08/10 07:04:50
    David Hussey
    +1
    Could be. I guess it makes sense, allowing others to do the thinking for you would likely lead to intellectual stagnation.
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/10 07:37:12
    freespire
    +1
    now I like the way you reasoned on that :-)))
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/07/24 16:34:53
    yes it is....
    C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT
    +4

    Read the lyrics
  • freespire C-ZAR™,... 2012/07/25 01:44:58
    freespire
    +2
    Yes war is good for nothing I agree
  • Melizmatic 2012/07/24 16:28:55
    yes it is....
    Melizmatic
    +5
    To anyone who isn't making money off it?

    Yes.

    To the people who make money from it, hand over fist, its just 'good business.'

    blood money
  • freespire Melizmatic 2012/07/25 01:47:00
    freespire
    +2
    ah yes the money stained with blood is something they will have upon their own hands, and that is going to be the reasons why, they will be burned in the fire when Jehovah cleanese the Earth of Evil nicely pointed out war is good for nothing
  • David H... Melizmatic 2012/08/09 14:30:02
    David Hussey
    +1
    "Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud.
    I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole Earth.
    I will crown every hillside with a place of worship, consecrated to peace."
    ~ Charles Sumner
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/10 06:03:35
    freespire
    +1
    does make one wonder how much real good could have been done instead of destruction with the kinds of money Summer is speaking about here.
  • David H... freespire 2012/08/10 07:08:57
    David Hussey
    +1
    Indeed it does. There is no reason why people cannot live peaceably, and the sheer waste in terms of treasure, innovation and blood could see all living in prosperity if not for the obsessive greed and lust for power of a small minority.
  • freespire David H... 2012/08/10 07:39:27
    freespire
    +1
    such a sad fact of life you have summed up correctly here thanks David.

    Even Jesus left clues to the widsom of the world.
  • Chaya2010 2012/07/24 16:22:37
    Undecided
    Chaya2010
    +1
    I wouldn't describe war as stupid at times it necessary.
  • freespire Chaya2010 2012/07/25 01:47:57
    freespire
    +1
    I have to disagree with you and I will say why.

    if two people are having a fight then the fight is between the two people and no one else.
    now if these two people are country leaders then it should be a fight in a independant court of law where both sides persent their own reasonings and the court can deciede who is right or wrong.

    the only thing war produces is who's left alive are the murdering has taken place.

    War has never resovled right or wrong only who is still strong enough to force terms over the weaker one
  • Chaya2010 freespire 2012/07/25 02:00:14
    Chaya2010
    +1
    "if two people are having a fight then the fight is between the two people and no one else." - that's a hypothetical situation based on a hypothesis. The premise flawed and simplistic based on "should" and "if" negating the fact that wars often not exclusively have far wider components and implications than two individuals.

    At times war has stopped a greater of two evils. Its an adversarial activity and usually it is the one with the most will and stronger military prevails. Wars/conflict/'state murder' stopped World War Two, saved lives in Sierra Leone, Kosovo/Bosnia.

    Right or wrong can be is subjective not objective. Victory can and often does produce tangible benefits not only for an individual (leader) but a nation(s).
  • warkitten 2012/07/24 15:36:14
    fighting isn't that what children do ......
    warkitten
    +1
    War is unjust but is necessary...it will take many forms and will never end because evil and greed will never change....humanity doesn't change....
  • Melizmatic warkitten 2012/07/24 16:30:39
    Melizmatic
    +5
    Especially if no one ever tries to change.

    complacency
  • warkitten Melizmatic 2012/07/24 17:22:15
    warkitten
    +1
    People will always be people...evil will always exist...it is not ignorance..it is reality...it is part of humanity...I am not complacent of anything...no one wants war but it is part of our existence on earth..unfortunate and vile as it is...
  • Melizmatic warkitten 2012/07/24 17:26:52
    Melizmatic
    +4
    Funny, I don't recall using the word 'ignorance.'

    And yes... if one states that:

    "This is just the way it is, this is the way it will ALWAYS be..." without even trying to change anything, that's the very definition of complacency.

    ('Always' is a really long time.)

    If we all thought like that (and had 'always' thought like that), fire and the wheel would never have been invented.



    *shrugs
  • warkitten Melizmatic 2012/07/24 17:45:30
    warkitten
    +2
    My view on war is not an opinion I expressed to disagree with anyone...what I said is true...what I said is my view..and yes, always has and always will...you think I want war? What could I do to stop osama bin laden, or sadam hussein? What could I do to change the war in Iraq? War is not the wheel or fire....no one invented war...war is not an advancement of intelligence..shrugs.....it is the way it is....
  • warkitten warkitten 2012/07/24 17:47:35
    warkitten
    +2
    War precedes the wheel and fire...it is because of these two things that war advanced..think bout that
  • Melizmatic warkitten 2012/07/24 17:52:45 (edited)
    Melizmatic
    +6
    No, I wont.

    No one gets to 'dictate' what I think about.
  • warkitten Melizmatic 2012/07/24 18:00:56
  • *Mahoga... warkitten 2012/07/24 18:25:45
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